Apple looking to quadruple software development outsourcing to India - report
Apple is said to be planning to quadruple the amount it spends to outsource software application development and maintenance work to India.
About $100 million is currently spent at Apple to outsource such work to Indian companies, with the nation representing about a fifth of Apple's total outsourcing dollars. But according to the Economic Times (via iSmashPhone), Apple's spending in India is set to drastically increase.
Citing more than a dozen people familiar with Apple's outsourcing plans, the report revealed that late last month, Apple Chief Information Officer Niall O'Connor visited with India-based technology services companies Infosys and Wipro.
Outsourcing is unique for a company as secretive as Apple. The report noted that the iPhone maker relies on resource planning software from Germany's SAP to manage its complex overseas supply chain.
"One of the top reasons for Apple to be so secretive about outsourcing to India is increased public scrutiny in the US of companies creative jobs overseas, especially at a time it has become difficult to save manufacturing jobs from going to China," the report said.
In addition to being potentially lucrative for companies like Infosys and Wipro, Apple's increased presence in India would also be something of a morale booster for employees. The report characterized simply working with Apple as a "badge of honour," and compares favorably to a company like General Electric, which reportedly outsources work at much lower rates.
Last month, it was said that the "doors are now open" for Apple to expand its retail presence into India for the first time. The government of the most populous country in the world recently changed local laws to allow full ownership of single-brand retail stores by foreign companies, a move that is said to have gained interest from Apple.
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Unlike the workers at Foxconn who do an unpleasant and repetitive menial task all day you can't write code on an assembly line. A programmer is a thinker. They are not doing something repetitive otherwise that task could be had by a simple computer program. The best case scenario for farming is in bug testing but even that has potential pitfalls.
edit: I fond this:edit 2: Of course, if India is the next big market for Apple after China which is the reason for the push and they are finding great programmers, not just cheap programmers, then I withdrawal my complaints. That said, it sure doesn't read that way to me.
Apple is said to be planning to quadruple the amount it spends to outsource software application development and maintenance work to India.
About $100 million is currently spent at Apple to outsource such work to Indian companies, with the nation representing about a fifth of Apple's total outsourcing dollars. But according to the Economic Times (via iSmashPhone), Apple's spending in India is set to drastically increase.
Citing more than a dozen people familiar with Apple's outsourcing plans, the report revealed that late last month, Apple Chief Information Officer Niall O'Connor visited with India-based technology services companies Infosys and Wipro.
Outsourcing is unique for a company as secretive as Apple. The report noted that the iPhone maker relies on resource planning software from Germany's SAP to manage its complex overseas supply chain.
"One of the top reasons for Apple to be so secretive about outsourcing to India is increased public scrutiny in the US of companies creative jobs overseas, especially at a time it has become difficult to save manufacturing jobs from going to China," the report said.
In addition to being potentially lucrative for companies like Infosys and Wipro, Apple's increased presence in India would also be something of a morale booster for employees. The report characterized simply working with Apple as a "badge of honour," and compares favorably to a company like General Electric, which reportedly outsources work at much lower rates.
Last month, it was said that the "doors are now open" for Apple to expand its retail presence into India for the first time. The government of the most populous country in the world recently changed local laws to allow full ownership of single-brand retail stores by foreign companies, a move that is said to have gained interest from Apple.
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i like the sound of that. who needs to keep workers in USA when you are struggling with 100 billion in the bank...
article may be crap, if not, middle finger to Apple.
I don't like this at all.
I second your comment. A fairly large company that I use to work for outsourced software to India, and our software was accidentally published to the very "open" web. I have many stories, but this one seems to be related to the story. Apple is very secretive. This just seems counter intuitive to me.
If apple is looking for little tweaks or database building, I think that this could work out fine -- but I just don't see them being able to ask for quality coding, program design or maintenance of secrecy with anything they send... making this a highly questionable plan.
Trickle down has failed. Apple doesn't outsource heavily...even 100 million today is a sneeze and quadrupling that isn't that big of a deal as compared to manufacturing in China but at some point the US Government has to stick to their guns and start taxing appropriately
....but at some point the US Government has to stick to their guns and start taxing appropriately
No, no, I won't say anything ....
I don't like this at all.
Well, if they have been doing this already and even plan to grow, this seems like a proven success for them. It is opposite to our experience - after dealing with Indian outsources, what we are left with is a bunch of unmaintainable, poorly designed code only good to be thrown away.
...; Apple doesn't outsource heavily...even 100 million today is a sneeze and quadrupling that isn't that big of a deal as compared to manufacturing in China ...
The article says the India currently gets $100M of the $500M Apple spends on outsourcing. If China is the only other country Apple outsources to, they would be getting $400M. If Apple quadruples its outsourcing to India, India would be getting about as much as China. Unless the manufacturing is China isn't considered outsourcing.
Must be a slow day of rumors. How about we talk about that small iPad again That was a good one.
No, no, I won't say anything ....
Don't worry my feeling won't be hurt. I have no political ambitions and realize
the nothing as as cut and dry as it would appear but at many levels we have not
created opportunities for the US in manufacturing.
I know people that are steering away from Engineering and Comp Sci majors simply because
the "there aren't enough qualified US citizens to hire" coming from companies becomes a
self fulfilling prophecy as students begin to avoid areas that are easily outsourced.
This sounds to me more like some of the back-office processing stuff that is being outsourced? Not something like, say, coding software for OSX or iWork?
how dare apple run its company as it sees fit. If the us was competitive with india and china apple wouldn't do this. It's simple free market economics.
+1...
I am not an US citizen, tho.
But... there is an upshot. It could pose a new lease on life for the Mac platform, and applications like Final Cut if resources can be better utilized and Apple is able to dramatically increase headcount in software development.
I'm in favor of more taxes for corporations that outsource heavily.
Trickle down has failed. Apple doesn't outsource heavily...even 100 million today is a sneeze and quadrupling that isn't that big of a deal as compared to manufacturing in China but at some point the US Government has to stick to their guns and start taxing appropriately
You don't say? Did anyone ever think it could work? The most transparent excuse ever by the rich to feed the rich. The fact that anyone but the very wealthy could ever buy into such a theory is pretty unbelievable when you think about it.
Ok, enough of that (Just jumped out at me and struck me kind of funny)
I am not sure we know enough about Apple's investment in India to make assumptions. It could be work targeting the Indian population. It could be debugging work.
I know people that are steering away from Engineering and Comp Sci majors simply because
the "there aren't enough qualified US citizens to hire" coming from companies becomes a
self fulfilling prophecy as students begin to avoid areas that are easily outsourced.
The US Government also has an annoying habit of making it difficult for foreign students to stay in the country once they get a technical education. Combining this with the unwillingness of native-born students to enter the field, and the country ends up losing the very people who are needed to build an advanced economy.
At one time, someone with an advanced degree from the US had every incentive to stay in the US and work. Now, they can find good jobs back home, plus the US puts roadblocks in their way if they want to stay.