More accurately from right wing fraud James O'Keefe who took down a great organization with a completely fake video then himself committed voter fraud in another video scam.
CRAWL back under your rock with all the rest of your commie ILK !!!!
Wouldn't you just jump for joy if Fox went away and everything went back to the way it used to be, with all the major networks sucking liberal leftist a-hole and apologizing for the socialists once again?
It is the New York Times that is directly connected to this story. It was the New York Times that gave the proven liar, Daisy, a platform, helping the liar to spread their lies. It is the New York Times that seems to have an agenda against Apple, with their BS stories. No wonder Apple recently dissed the New York Times by blacklisting them for a certain event. Screw the New York Times. Don't deflect away from the truth by mentioning something that has nothing to do with this topic.
It is the leftist media and liberal douchebag activists who are attacking Apple and spreading lies.
He mentions Fox News, like its some sort of declaration he should be lauded for, like what, we're in some asshat college lecture room and HE just figured out how to factor PI?
CASE STUDY!! FOX NEWS!!!
You are 100% correct, it IS liberal douchebag activists, like this jackass Daisey, like Greenpeace, The NY Times, et.al., and then some really WELL informed reader like this comes along to trumpet his opinions on Fox News (which has as much to do with this story about Apple as the Pope's Ballsack).
If they are doing it because of Daisey's words then they were duped fools but I wouldn't lump all protestors into that same pile. I'm sure there are some that are noble in their posture even if you and I don't agree with their message.
I don't think there is any noble in their posture. Stupid, probably. Noble, no.
I don't see why Apple needs to bow to them. Why Apple needs to do monthly update.
I remember when an "artist" used to be someone who painted stuff.
I don't think we've seen a clearer case of libel in a long, long time. Purposefully misrepresented information and presented it as fact that has hurt Apple financially. No wonder the people around him are panicking, they know a giant monetary settlement is coming.
Fortunately, The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution protects Daisey, and others like him, even when I don't like it. In the US, to win a libel suit, you need to prove damages. You state "as fact that has hurt Apple financially". So tell us just how Apple is going to prove that. They seem to be doing quite well financially.
Why do you keep talking about Michael Moore and politics? The people you reply to aren't mentioning anything about politics.
Saying I think Daisey and Moore have a lot in common and are both insincere, lying idiots is in no way a political statement. As far as I know neither are politicians or claim to represent a political party. Why do you insist on trying to make it political?
I'm the one who's trying to make it political?! ROFLMAO! You DO know how to read, don't you? Then I suggest you follow the conversation back through the various posts to its beginning. If you can't figure it out from there, then I doubt that anything I could say would serve to enlighten you.
Mike Daisey and Michael Moore are as different as night and day, because Michael Moore is all about seeking out the lies of others while Mike Daisey is all about lying to support his own particular bias.
So much chest thumping over this "discovery". Why?
It was obvious from the beginning that Mike Daisey's show was at best disingenuous - for example even when challenged over the suicide figures (below the national average, and inflated for one year because of Foxconn's one-off compensation package to the families of those who suicided), his self-enriching rationalisations were transparent.
And even now that his dishonesty has been revealed for all to see, he still refuses to apologise or acknowledge it, except to say it's entertainment not journalism (patently dishonest - he does present his lies as fact).
How long ago is it that a revelation like this would have meant the instant collapse of a career, and tears and apologies for misleading the American public? Now it's so much the norm in every day news and politics that we hardly blink, and wonder what the fuss is about. How long will it be before Mike Daisey has his own syndicated show out of this? He's fulfilled all of the requirements.
Apple has refused to comment on the controversy surrounding the monologue. CEO Tim Cook did, however, dismiss the show last February at an annual shareholder meeting. At the time, Cook reassured investors that Apple has "the highest standards" for worker safety and environmental friendliness.
"I don't need to see a play. I know Steve Jobs," he said.
Also known as not feeding a troll. After all, they live for attention.
Doubtful. The liar already had the full support of the New York Times, which helped to spread his lies, falsehoods and slander to many ignorant people and readers.
I'd like to live inside your mind, just for one day.
He mentions Fox News, like its some sort of declaration he should be lauded for, like what, we're in some asshat college lecture room and HE just figured out how to factor PI?
CASE STUDY!! FOX NEWS!!!
You are 100% correct, it IS liberal douchebag activists, like this jackass Daisey, like Greenpeace, The NY Times, et.al., and then some really WELL informed reader like this comes along to trumpet his opinions on Fox News (which has as much to do with this story about Apple as the Pope's Ballsack).
Let?s just agree that there exists bad and good journalism on both sides of the political spectrum. Neither side can really claim the higher ground.
When people sense they're becoming irrelevant they do irrelevant things. This is not new. A Daisy chain of similar sensational journalism can be traced back to colonial times. Daisy simply traded his perceived credibility for short term notoriety in the hope that it will get him noticed. Attacking Apple is just the slime du jour that comes out of the media.
Credibility is the lifeblood of journalism. When you loose it it's game over. The NYT knows this so I'm surprised they published these allegations without verification.
When people sense they're becoming irrelevant they do irrelevant things. This is not new. A Daisy chain of similar sensational journalism can be traced back to colonial times. Daisy simply traded his perceived credibility for short term notoriety in the hope that it will get him noticed. Attacking Apple is just the slime du jour that comes out of the media.
Credibility is the lifeblood of journalism. When you loose it it's game over. The NYT knows this so I'm surprised they published these allegations without verification.
Partially agreed, as to "it's old as the Pyramids". Partially disagreed, as to "When you loose it it's game over."
Bad journalism sent the USA in a war against Spain in 1898 and then a few decades later in a war against Germany in 1915 (Lusitania, actually, _was_ an armed weaponry-transport...)
As far as I know, journalism hasn't become better. Fox News even makes money.
(Fun irrelevant fact, Lusitania means "Portugal", the closest neighbor to Spain.)
Anyone remember that Renault spying brouhaha in France, how heads rolled?.
And How French government went full charge loaded blaming China?
Why you can lie against a comapny like Apple or any other similar in the USA and nothing happens to you?
: Something is wrong.
Why sue him? He's done the company an INCREDIBLE service. Because of this, EVERY criticism of Apple's Chinese manufacturing practices will be suspect and tainted with incredulity. If anything, they should (quietly) thank him for a job well done.
The stock is over $600, The New iPad is selling faster than any Apple product in history, and they're announcing a major financial...something this morning. What damage did this story actually do?
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More accurately from right wing fraud James O'Keefe who took down a great organization with a completely fake video then himself committed voter fraud in another video scam.
CRAWL back under your rock with all the rest of your commie ILK !!!!
Case Study: FOX NEWS.
Wouldn't you just jump for joy if Fox went away and everything went back to the way it used to be, with all the major networks sucking liberal leftist a-hole and apologizing for the socialists once again?
Get used to disappointment. Hooray Fox.
What does FOX NEWS have to do with this story?
It is the New York Times that is directly connected to this story. It was the New York Times that gave the proven liar, Daisy, a platform, helping the liar to spread their lies. It is the New York Times that seems to have an agenda against Apple, with their BS stories. No wonder Apple recently dissed the New York Times by blacklisting them for a certain event. Screw the New York Times. Don't deflect away from the truth by mentioning something that has nothing to do with this topic.
It is the leftist media and liberal douchebag activists who are attacking Apple and spreading lies.
He mentions Fox News, like its some sort of declaration he should be lauded for, like what, we're in some asshat college lecture room and HE just figured out how to factor PI?
CASE STUDY!! FOX NEWS!!!
You are 100% correct, it IS liberal douchebag activists, like this jackass Daisey, like Greenpeace, The NY Times, et.al., and then some really WELL informed reader like this comes along to trumpet his opinions on Fox News (which has as much to do with this story about Apple as the Pope's Ballsack).
That is what caused the financial cries in 2008.
I would prefer this guy get locked the rest of his life.
If they are doing it because of Daisey's words then they were duped fools but I wouldn't lump all protestors into that same pile. I'm sure there are some that are noble in their posture even if you and I don't agree with their message.
I don't think there is any noble in their posture. Stupid, probably. Noble, no.
I don't see why Apple needs to bow to them. Why Apple needs to do monthly update.
Apple should not bow to these evil people.
I remember when an "artist" used to be someone who painted stuff.
I don't think we've seen a clearer case of libel in a long, long time. Purposefully misrepresented information and presented it as fact that has hurt Apple financially. No wonder the people around him are panicking, they know a giant monetary settlement is coming.
Fortunately, The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution protects Daisey, and others like him, even when I don't like it. In the US, to win a libel suit, you need to prove damages. You state "as fact that has hurt Apple financially". So tell us just how Apple is going to prove that. They seem to be doing quite well financially.
Why do you keep talking about Michael Moore and politics? The people you reply to aren't mentioning anything about politics.
Saying I think Daisey and Moore have a lot in common and are both insincere, lying idiots is in no way a political statement. As far as I know neither are politicians or claim to represent a political party. Why do you insist on trying to make it political?
I'm the one who's trying to make it political?! ROFLMAO! You DO know how to read, don't you? Then I suggest you follow the conversation back through the various posts to its beginning. If you can't figure it out from there, then I doubt that anything I could say would serve to enlighten you.
Mike Daisey and Michael Moore are as different as night and day, because Michael Moore is all about seeking out the lies of others while Mike Daisey is all about lying to support his own particular bias.
Well said.
It was obvious from the beginning that Mike Daisey's show was at best disingenuous - for example even when challenged over the suicide figures (below the national average, and inflated for one year because of Foxconn's one-off compensation package to the families of those who suicided), his self-enriching rationalisations were transparent.
And even now that his dishonesty has been revealed for all to see, he still refuses to apologise or acknowledge it, except to say it's entertainment not journalism (patently dishonest - he does present his lies as fact).
How long ago is it that a revelation like this would have meant the instant collapse of a career, and tears and apologies for misleading the American public? Now it's so much the norm in every day news and politics that we hardly blink, and wonder what the fuss is about. How long will it be before Mike Daisey has his own syndicated show out of this? He's fulfilled all of the requirements.
Apple has refused to comment on the controversy surrounding the monologue. CEO Tim Cook did, however, dismiss the show last February at an annual shareholder meeting. At the time, Cook reassured investors that Apple has "the highest standards" for worker safety and environmental friendliness.
"I don't need to see a play. I know Steve Jobs," he said.
Also known as not feeding a troll. After all, they live for attention.
Doubtful. The liar already had the full support of the New York Times, which helped to spread his lies, falsehoods and slander to many ignorant people and readers.
I'd like to live inside your mind, just for one day.
He mentions Fox News, like its some sort of declaration he should be lauded for, like what, we're in some asshat college lecture room and HE just figured out how to factor PI?
CASE STUDY!! FOX NEWS!!!
You are 100% correct, it IS liberal douchebag activists, like this jackass Daisey, like Greenpeace, The NY Times, et.al., and then some really WELL informed reader like this comes along to trumpet his opinions on Fox News (which has as much to do with this story about Apple as the Pope's Ballsack).
Let?s just agree that there exists bad and good journalism on both sides of the political spectrum. Neither side can really claim the higher ground.
Credibility is the lifeblood of journalism. When you loose it it's game over. The NYT knows this so I'm surprised they published these allegations without verification.
When people sense they're becoming irrelevant they do irrelevant things. This is not new. A Daisy chain of similar sensational journalism can be traced back to colonial times. Daisy simply traded his perceived credibility for short term notoriety in the hope that it will get him noticed. Attacking Apple is just the slime du jour that comes out of the media.
Credibility is the lifeblood of journalism. When you loose it it's game over. The NYT knows this so I'm surprised they published these allegations without verification.
Partially agreed, as to "it's old as the Pyramids". Partially disagreed, as to "When you loose it it's game over."
Bad journalism sent the USA in a war against Spain in 1898 and then a few decades later in a war against Germany in 1915 (Lusitania, actually, _was_ an armed weaponry-transport...)
As far as I know, journalism hasn't become better. Fox News even makes money.
(Fun irrelevant fact, Lusitania means "Portugal", the closest neighbor to Spain.)
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/conte...1/s3334201.htm
October 6th 2011.
"Jobs 'more showman than geek': Daisey"
Well, despite all his flaws, his description of Jobs sounds about right.
Daisey: I saw underage workers at FoxConn.
Fact Checker: Are you sure?
Daisey: Yep, that's what I saw.
Can Apple shareholders sue this EVIL clown?
Anyone remember that Renault spying brouhaha in France, how heads rolled?.
And How French government went full charge loaded blaming China?
Why you can lie against a comapny like Apple or any other similar in the USA and nothing happens to you?
Why sue him? He's done the company an INCREDIBLE service. Because of this, EVERY criticism of Apple's Chinese manufacturing practices will be suspect and tainted with incredulity. If anything, they should (quietly) thank him for a job well done.
The stock is over $600, The New iPad is selling faster than any Apple product in history, and they're announcing a major financial...something this morning. What damage did this story actually do?
America is too lenient with this kind of people. There is no accountability in US's system.
That is what caused the financial cries in 2008.
I would prefer this guy get locked the rest of his life.
That's a little harsh. I'd just force him to use a Blackberry.