Great, iOS not only dumbing down Apple now it can do the same to Photography in general
This is as sad as crayons becoming the tool of choice for drawing - And they say iOS is not for the lowest common denominator.
Not really. Except for professional photographers who could use a box camera to take great pictures (it's less the camera than the brain), the iPhone, and any other smart phone, is used for convenience and spur of the moment shots that just happen.
The great digital cameras are very much worth the price for the professional. It's the point and shoot cameras which are being pressured by the good enough cameras. But, further, the iPhone supports immediate publication and backup: via iCloud, text messaging, email. Then there is GPS; not available on most dedicated cameras -- camera manufacturers do not have the capacity to compete at this level.
I well remember how just a few years ago 6 megapixel cameras were considered almost "Professional". The iPhone 4S has almost double that, well within the Professional definition of just a few years ago. These professional cameras did have much better lenses, but were/are far more unwieldy. As has often been said, the best camera is the one you have at that moment.
I can't think of any Video camera which comes close to the 4S definition - even professional HD Cameras would struggle. Do you know of any except perhaps than professional standard video cameras costing thousands of dollars? But again they are far more bulky and heavy.
As for tablets or even HD TV screens, none are in the same ball park as the new iPad's 3 million pixels. An HD TV has only 2 million!. Android tablets? Probably less than a million or even less!
I repeat, there is NOTHING to compare with the COMBINATION of the 4S and new iPad, whether as still or video individually, but especially as a combination still/video camera and viewer!
If you can name a higher quality combination, please do so!
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Originally Posted by cpr1
Professional cameras have never been defined by the number of pixels. And professional HD cameras do not "struggle" to come close to the 4S definition. If you want to compare the 4S to other smartphones or consumer equipment, fine.
I agree because pixels are just one factor to be considered when considering a digital camera. Considering a camera a professional model because it has 6 megapixels or more is like saying a quad-core phone is better than single-core phone because it has more cores or that a car with the bigger engine is better.
When will people finally get it that they shouldn't buy anything based solely on the specs, Product purchases should be made based on how a products overall performance best fulfills their particular needs.
I'm equally as shocked as the top FOUR spots all being iPhones, and the 3G, which isn't sold anymore, still outranks the 3GS, which is still for sale. Just more proof that people with iPhones actually WANT to use their phone, whereas most Android owners HAVE to use their phone.
I'd suspect that it's ease of use that makes it possible for iPhone users to take a photos worth keeping and then moving that photo off the phone. Android devices are a joke in comparison.
Always nice to hear about new products. After all, competition is good.
This flickr looks interesting. Nice to know there is another site out there to compete with google picasa. Has anyone here used flickr who can tell me how it compared to picasa. Can you do a one click upload of all the phones pics and thier metadata to flickr?
Always nice to hear about new products. After all, competition is good.
This flickr looks interesting. Nice to know there is another site out there to compete with google picasa. Has anyone here used flickr who can tell me how it compared to picasa. Can you do a one click upload of all the phones pics and thier metadata to flickr?
Some support RAW, some don't. Some don't require you to sign up, which I like. I use Imgur, PhotoBucket and (of course) MM Gallery.
But I still cannot grasp at the reason why Apple is going to terminate Gallery after June 30th. Maybe at the time of announcement they thought they shouldn't be trying to do everything at once when creating iCloud and they thought that a year of MM support would allow them enough time to migrate this feature to iCloud as well. One can hope, but I hate all the silence. So yes, I gave my feedback on all missing MM features in iCloud and emailed 'some folks' at Apple.
canon 5d mkii is a 3000 dollar camera!!!, and the iphone alot less. and i would think that more pros use the 3k camera, and since they make money off the camera, they must be using flickr to should off the work... the "papps" use flickr?...
learned something new... I figured that flickr was a photo site for sharing family photos.
BTW... it is not the camera that makes good pictures, it is the person behind the camera that does. by using better equipment, allows your photo to make more money...
for video xl100 is better than the 5d mkii, (discounting lenses, but watch out for the rolling shutter skew on the 5d mkii)
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Great, iOS not only dumbing down Apple now it can do the same to Photography in general
This is as sad as crayons becoming the tool of choice for drawing - And they say iOS is not for the lowest common denominator.
Not really. Except for professional photographers who could use a box camera to take great pictures (it's less the camera than the brain), the iPhone, and any other smart phone, is used for convenience and spur of the moment shots that just happen.
The great digital cameras are very much worth the price for the professional. It's the point and shoot cameras which are being pressured by the good enough cameras. But, further, the iPhone supports immediate publication and backup: via iCloud, text messaging, email. Then there is GPS; not available on most dedicated cameras -- camera manufacturers do not have the capacity to compete at this level.
I well remember how just a few years ago 6 megapixel cameras were considered almost "Professional". The iPhone 4S has almost double that, well within the Professional definition of just a few years ago. These professional cameras did have much better lenses, but were/are far more unwieldy. As has often been said, the best camera is the one you have at that moment.
I can't think of any Video camera which comes close to the 4S definition - even professional HD Cameras would struggle. Do you know of any except perhaps than professional standard video cameras costing thousands of dollars? But again they are far more bulky and heavy.
As for tablets or even HD TV screens, none are in the same ball park as the new iPad's 3 million pixels. An HD TV has only 2 million!. Android tablets? Probably less than a million or even less!
I repeat, there is NOTHING to compare with the COMBINATION of the 4S and new iPad, whether as still or video individually, but especially as a combination still/video camera and viewer!
If you can name a higher quality combination, please do so!
Professional cameras have never been defined by the number of pixels. And professional HD cameras do not "struggle" to come close to the 4S definition. If you want to compare the 4S to other smartphones or consumer equipment, fine.
I agree because pixels are just one factor to be considered when considering a digital camera. Considering a camera a professional model because it has 6 megapixels or more is like saying a quad-core phone is better than single-core phone because it has more cores or that a car with the bigger engine is better.
When will people finally get it that they shouldn't buy anything based solely on the specs, Product purchases should be made based on how a products overall performance best fulfills their particular needs.
It may the the most popular, but that doesn't make it suck any less. My iPhone 4 takes horrible pictures.
Move your finger away from the lens, then.
This is going to make people start demanding a 12MP camera in the new iPhone, isn't it?
Not unless "12MP camera" is spelled "4.5 inch SuperHybrid SuperActive Supersaturated ScamOLED screen with Super PenTile pixelz Super"
Great, iOS not only dumbing down Apple now it can do the same to Photography in general
This is as sad as crayons becoming the tool of choice for drawing - And they say iOS is not for the lowest common denominator.
"Dumbing down"??? What, are you looking down on the "lowest common denominator" from your high horse? Then watch these videos:
http://m.cbsnews.com/postwatch.rbml?...&cbsID=7385686
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/09/...accessibility/
Yeah, iOS is for everybody, not just some f***ing technology elitist like you.
I'm equally as shocked as the top FOUR spots all being iPhones, and the 3G, which isn't sold anymore, still outranks the 3GS, which is still for sale. Just more proof that people with iPhones actually WANT to use their phone, whereas most Android owners HAVE to use their phone.
I'd suspect that it's ease of use that makes it possible for iPhone users to take a photos worth keeping and then moving that photo off the phone. Android devices are a joke in comparison.
This flickr looks interesting. Nice to know there is another site out there to compete with google picasa. Has anyone here used flickr who can tell me how it compared to picasa. Can you do a one click upload of all the phones pics and thier metadata to flickr?
Thanks
Always nice to hear about new products. After all, competition is good.
This flickr looks interesting. Nice to know there is another site out there to compete with google picasa. Has anyone here used flickr who can tell me how it compared to picasa. Can you do a one click upload of all the phones pics and thier metadata to flickr?
Thanks
Wiki gives a nice list:
\t▪\t500px
\t▪\tBlueMelon
\t▪\tFlickr
\t▪\tFotki
\t▪\tImageshack
\t▪\tImgur
\t▪\tInterartcenter
\t▪\tipernity
\t▪\tJalbum
\t▪\tKodak Gallery
\t▪\tKoodibooK
\t▪\tLockerz
\t▪\tMobile Me
\t▪\tPanoramio
\t▪\tPhanfare
\t▪\tPhotobucket
\t▪\tPicasa
\t▪\tPiczo.com
\t▪\tPixable
\t▪\tSmugMug
\t▪\tSnapfish
\t▪\tShutterfly
\t▪\tStreamzoo
\t▪\tWebshots
\t▪\tWikimedia Commons[7]
\t▪\tWindows Live Photos
\t▪\tWoophy
Some support RAW, some don't. Some don't require you to sign up, which I like. I use Imgur, PhotoBucket and (of course) MM Gallery.
But I still cannot grasp at the reason why Apple is going to terminate Gallery after June 30th. Maybe at the time of announcement they thought they shouldn't be trying to do everything at once when creating iCloud and they thought that a year of MM support would allow them enough time to migrate this feature to iCloud as well. One can hope, but I hate all the silence. So yes, I gave my feedback on all missing MM features in iCloud and emailed 'some folks' at Apple.
learned something new... I figured that flickr was a photo site for sharing family photos.
BTW... it is not the camera that makes good pictures, it is the person behind the camera that does. by using better equipment, allows your photo to make more money...
for video xl100 is better than the 5d mkii, (discounting lenses, but watch out for the rolling shutter skew on the 5d mkii)