Will Apple release a revolutionary product? I believe yes.
Will it be a TV? No. Will it take the place of a TV? Yes.
The thing people are not getting is that the term "Television" will be all but obsolete in two years after Apple introduces a product that becomes the primary entertainment and control hub in the living room. It will have a revolutionary impact not only on how we consume content at home, but how we interact with our homes in general. Television is to "iPanel" as radio is to "iPod".
These "Smart TVs" that companies are releasing will immediately seem 5 years old just by virtue of incorporating the term "TV" in their product.
This not blind fanboy praise. This is logical deduction based on the obvious.
It's a little blind fanboy praise honestly. You ignore the obvious, the screen in your living is driven almost entirely by content, content Apple does not own and currently cannot deliver, content that's already in every living room via a near monopoly that content controllers are reluctant to let anyone near their cash cow. Look no further than what's happened to Netflix. Until that part is worked out, it won't matter if the potential iPanel has Siri, a game console, Apple TV and a motion controller all built in...it's about content.
He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting. The couch on the right sticks out into the doorway. The one on the left blocks the radiator. The heat will ruin the leather, and it is facing nowhere.
The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
Besides all that, he is a blabbermouth!
I couldn't agree more. What a horrrrrrrible photo. I only just now realized there is an iPod or iPhone on top of that shadow, errr I mean that large ugly monolith.
Yes, I can see how you have more design sense than a world acclaimed industrial designer.
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He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting.
Because you should always match like with like when decorating, right?
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Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz
[IMG]The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
First of all, the picture is from some magazine article or his website (one would suppose). It's possibly of his house. It's not supposed to "showcase the work of a talented designer" --it just features a couple of his creations on display.
Second, what you complained about above is called "interior decoration" not "industrial design".
You also complained about the picture's exposure. The picture was taken by a photographer, not the designer himself --and the exposure is perfect. (You see, perfect exposure does not mean "no over/under exposed areas", it just means "the picture conveys what the photographer intended', in this case, a moody contrasty tone. Similarly, pictures where people are shown underexposed as silhouettes are generally INTENDED to be that way).
Third, it's called Bauhaus.
Now, if you wanted a taste of the guys design sense, instead on commenting on a picture of his house, how about doing a bloody Google sense? Took all of 1 second:
Will Apple release a revolutionary product? I believe yes.
Will it be a TV? No. Will it take the place of a TV? Yes.
The thing people are not getting is that the term "Television" will be all but obsolete in two years after Apple introduces a product that becomes the primary entertainment and control hub in the living room. It will have a revolutionary impact not only on how we consume content at home, but how we interact with our homes in general. Television is to "iPanel" as radio is to "iPod".
These "Smart TVs" that companies are releasing will immediately seem 5 years old just by virtue of incorporating the term "TV" in their product.
This not blind fanboy praise. This is logical deduction based on the obvious.
Very good mediathink here.
I must add that there should also be wearable stereovision screens, iGlasses, that sync to your iPanel before you leave home. They'll have to buy that name if they want to use it, though.
Edit: I see thataveragejoe called you out on the big bad "Content Issue" above. Everybody says it's all about the content. Maybe not true—generally the more people say something is true, the less true it probably is. As you probably know, the rule in post-McLuhan media thought is that it's the medium that matters more than the content. A well-connected iPanel that's easy to use is going to find a world of content open up that is far beyond the canned programming from the Old Providers. Content in the old sense will be obsolete just as it is for internet-connected computers.
He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting. The couch on the right sticks out into the doorway. The one on the left blocks the radiator. The heat will ruin the leather, and it is facing nowhere.
The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
Besides all that, he is a blabbermouth!
That's funny. Its like watching porn and pointing out all the stupid shit in the background. Yea, you know when you've watched too much porn.
I'm convinced they're going to make a new product for automobiles.
An Apple 7" touchscreen on the dashboard with a non-beta Siri and Maps would be killer. Have it automatically sync with iCloud and iMatch and pull anything from iOS devices in range and you've got a product no one can match.
Add to that the fact that current audio/map interfaces in cars ALL SUCK. Now you've got a winner.
I wonder if they would come out with some way to link to your current car speakers, or if they would have their own speakers that you would place around the inside of the car? Stupid question probably, but it's non-trivial for a person to install their own car audio equipment...
I agree with you that the next big thing for Apple will be car-centered products. Maybe not with this supposed 'revolutionary' product, but it's coming. It's the logical natural evolution of Apple's mobile computing foray. Right now they're focused on personal mobile, once they fill up that room, what's next that's also mobile but not personal? The car, what else?
This is exciting news for consumers who have been holding out for a revolutionary new product from Apple. Starck will add some va-va-voom to whatever this magical new product is. I want to buy now!!!!
Okay firstly it is Bauhaus, secondly those rooms are not Victorian but French Neo-Classisical from the Louis XV and XVI periods. Most importantly that "guy" is consider one of the most influential designers of the past 20 years and has designed furniture, home decorative objects and hotels. Mr Ive's most notably work is with Apple exclusively.
The only thing I agree with you on is the photograph used in this advertisement which was produced by the manufacturer not Mr. Starck, is not great and has poor styling.
I'd like to add to this comment, since i am an architect and have some experience with photo-shoots. Most marketing photos like this are set up by the company delivering the product. they scout for a space to shoot their marketing photos and usually the photographer or someone in the production design "stages" the space. In most cases the original space might have had a different layout of furnishings...most likely this was the case. Additionally, they are staging the furnishings for the "Shot", not really focusing on how the space functions. That's kind of a step 1 for most photo shoots. they move around furnishings so they look good in the shot. now, that doesn't explain the lighting or why the right-hand sofa sticks into the doorway, but that's just my experience with these kinds of things. the designer of the product usually has little impact on how the marketing photos look.
First of all, the picture is from some magazine article or his website (one would suppose). It's possibly of his house. It's not supposed to "showcase the work of a talented designer" --it just features a couple of his creations on display.
It's from the parrot website. Apparently they paid so much for Starck's design they couldn't afford a decent photo stylist.
Looking forward to that Apple not-a-TV set. Could be good.
I don't think Apple will do a car product - even though every time I use my car stereo, or in fact when I buy a new one, I think "I wish Apple made one because these all suck, and suck badly"
Last time I shopped I found one Alpine unit that had a proper iPod-like color LCD screen - iPod-sized too - for the princely sum of $600. I played around with it, usability still sucked balls. Then there's tons of DVD player ones with large screens but no proper iPod integration... it's retarded.
Anything else in a car is pretty refined - the locations and functions of the buttons have all received a lot of thought. Where it breaks down is any technology less than 20 years old... adding an iPod, or GPS.
You lay out what's wrong with existing car stereos and how Apple could improve it greatly and then conclude that Apple has no incentive to go into it.
I think it's more than just improving on car stereos. It will be in-car computing, a seamless extension of what iCloud/iPhone/iPad does now.
i believe Apple's long term goal is to achieve the ubiquitous and hyper-intelligent computing that is best demonstrated by what the federation crew used in Star Trek Next Gen.
Acclaimed French designer Phillippe Starck revealed in a recent interview that he has been working with Apple on a "revolutionary" new product
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He cited Apple's "religious cult of secrecy" for declining to divulge any further information, though he did say the new project is "quite revolutionary."
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As for Starck's "revolutionary" comment,
Words are cheap and 'revolutionary' has been reduced to nothing but a marketing term. It is overused and cheapened. Now, when we hear 'revolutionary' we expect something a 'little bit new'. I guess Philippe Starck knows revolutionary is no longer an absolute term and therefore called the project 'quite' revolutionary.
But journalists should see through this (very transparent) marketing trap and avoid using the terms - I mean, please AI - in what way was Philippe Starck's comment 'revolutionary'?
Personally I think he is talking about a TV but not just a redesign of a traditional TV set. More of a re-think of what a tv is and does as suggested in the post the other day which the 'alleged' TV would be called iPanel.
It's a little blind fanboy praise honestly. You ignore the obvious, the screen in your living is driven almost entirely by content, content Apple does not own and currently cannot deliver, content that's already in every living room via a near monopoly that content controllers are reluctant to let anyone near their cash cow. Look no further than what's happened to Netflix. Until that part is worked out, it won't matter if the potential iPanel has Siri, a game console, Apple TV and a motion controller all built in...it's about content.
The whole point of Apple's, let's say, "iPanel", is that it will simplify and diversify the availability of content. Isn't that just what Apple has always done? Come through with negotiations over incredibly difficult/stingy/seemingly unsurmountable industries (music, mobile networks, etc.)? What makes the television/motion picture industries any different? Even if they don't win them all in the beginning, they will after they winning the market with their stunning TV-replacement.
You're being one of those people who doubted Apple could find success in music players, phones, or tablets. Now more than ever all the evidence is pointing toward this project being extremely successful. Not to mention that it is prime time, considering the tv market is in crisis.
You don't have to have faith in, or even be a fan of Apple to see this. It's logic. Just look at the numbers.
I wonder if it's a new product category... Revolutionary is a bold declaration and I'm excited to learn more.
What "new" product has Apple ever come up with? Apple excels at taking a current device and making it sleek, sexy, easy to use, plus the a great ecosystem.
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Will Apple release a revolutionary product? I believe yes.
Will it be a TV? No. Will it take the place of a TV? Yes.
The thing people are not getting is that the term "Television" will be all but obsolete in two years after Apple introduces a product that becomes the primary entertainment and control hub in the living room. It will have a revolutionary impact not only on how we consume content at home, but how we interact with our homes in general. Television is to "iPanel" as radio is to "iPod".
These "Smart TVs" that companies are releasing will immediately seem 5 years old just by virtue of incorporating the term "TV" in their product.
This not blind fanboy praise. This is logical deduction based on the obvious.
It's a little blind fanboy praise honestly. You ignore the obvious, the screen in your living is driven almost entirely by content, content Apple does not own and currently cannot deliver, content that's already in every living room via a near monopoly that content controllers are reluctant to let anyone near their cash cow. Look no further than what's happened to Netflix. Until that part is worked out, it won't matter if the potential iPanel has Siri, a game console, Apple TV and a motion controller all built in...it's about content.
This guy's design sense sucks.
He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting. The couch on the right sticks out into the doorway. The one on the left blocks the radiator. The heat will ruin the leather, and it is facing nowhere.
The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
Besides all that, he is a blabbermouth!
I couldn't agree more. What a horrrrrrrible photo. I only just now realized there is an iPod or iPhone on top of that shadow, errr I mean that large ugly monolith.
This guy's design sense sucks.
Yes, I can see how you have more design sense than a world acclaimed industrial designer.
He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting.
Because you should always match like with like when decorating, right?
[IMG]The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
First of all, the picture is from some magazine article or his website (one would suppose). It's possibly of his house. It's not supposed to "showcase the work of a talented designer" --it just features a couple of his creations on display.
Second, what you complained about above is called "interior decoration" not "industrial design".
You also complained about the picture's exposure. The picture was taken by a photographer, not the designer himself --and the exposure is perfect. (You see, perfect exposure does not mean "no over/under exposed areas", it just means "the picture conveys what the photographer intended', in this case, a moody contrasty tone. Similarly, pictures where people are shown underexposed as silhouettes are generally INTENDED to be that way).
Third, it's called Bauhaus.
Now, if you wanted a taste of the guys design sense, instead on commenting on a picture of his house, how about doing a bloody Google sense? Took all of 1 second:
https://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=...IsyJrAfzxJnvCg
Blabbing frog can't keep his mouth shut.
Ironically, we're now thinking the same about you...
Will Apple release a revolutionary product? I believe yes.
Will it be a TV? No. Will it take the place of a TV? Yes.
The thing people are not getting is that the term "Television" will be all but obsolete in two years after Apple introduces a product that becomes the primary entertainment and control hub in the living room. It will have a revolutionary impact not only on how we consume content at home, but how we interact with our homes in general. Television is to "iPanel" as radio is to "iPod".
These "Smart TVs" that companies are releasing will immediately seem 5 years old just by virtue of incorporating the term "TV" in their product.
This not blind fanboy praise. This is logical deduction based on the obvious.
Very good mediathink here.
I must add that there should also be wearable stereovision screens, iGlasses, that sync to your iPanel before you leave home. They'll have to buy that name if they want to use it, though.
Edit: I see thataveragejoe called you out on the big bad "Content Issue" above. Everybody says it's all about the content. Maybe not true—generally the more people say something is true, the less true it probably is. As you probably know, the rule in post-McLuhan media thought is that it's the medium that matters more than the content. A well-connected iPanel that's easy to use is going to find a world of content open up that is far beyond the canned programming from the Old Providers. Content in the old sense will be obsolete just as it is for internet-connected computers.
This guy's design sense sucks.
He puts Bauhous inspired furniture in a Victorian setting. The couch on the right sticks out into the doorway. The one on the left blocks the radiator. The heat will ruin the leather, and it is facing nowhere.
The photo sucks too. It is overexposed in the bright parts, and underexposed elsewhere. The iPod column fades into the darkness behind it. The other one is in the middle of the floor, waiting to be bumped into.
How is this picture supposed to showcase the work of a talented designer?
Besides all that, he is a blabbermouth!
That's funny. Its like watching porn and pointing out all the stupid shit in the background. Yea, you know when you've watched too much porn.
I'm convinced they're going to make a new product for automobiles.
An Apple 7" touchscreen on the dashboard with a non-beta Siri and Maps would be killer. Have it automatically sync with iCloud and iMatch and pull anything from iOS devices in range and you've got a product no one can match.
Add to that the fact that current audio/map interfaces in cars ALL SUCK. Now you've got a winner.
I wonder if they would come out with some way to link to your current car speakers, or if they would have their own speakers that you would place around the inside of the car? Stupid question probably, but it's non-trivial for a person to install their own car audio equipment...
I agree with you that the next big thing for Apple will be car-centered products. Maybe not with this supposed 'revolutionary' product, but it's coming. It's the logical natural evolution of Apple's mobile computing foray. Right now they're focused on personal mobile, once they fill up that room, what's next that's also mobile but not personal? The car, what else?
Ironically, we're now thinking the same about you...
Given Apple's record, do you doubt they asked him not to say anything?
Okay firstly it is Bauhaus, secondly those rooms are not Victorian but French Neo-Classisical from the Louis XV and XVI periods. Most importantly that "guy" is consider one of the most influential designers of the past 20 years and has designed furniture, home decorative objects and hotels. Mr Ive's most notably work is with Apple exclusively.
The only thing I agree with you on is the photograph used in this advertisement which was produced by the manufacturer not Mr. Starck, is not great and has poor styling.
I'd like to add to this comment, since i am an architect and have some experience with photo-shoots. Most marketing photos like this are set up by the company delivering the product. they scout for a space to shoot their marketing photos and usually the photographer or someone in the production design "stages" the space. In most cases the original space might have had a different layout of furnishings...most likely this was the case. Additionally, they are staging the furnishings for the "Shot", not really focusing on how the space functions. That's kind of a step 1 for most photo shoots. they move around furnishings so they look good in the shot. now, that doesn't explain the lighting or why the right-hand sofa sticks into the doorway, but that's just my experience with these kinds of things. the designer of the product usually has little impact on how the marketing photos look.
First of all, the picture is from some magazine article or his website (one would suppose). It's possibly of his house. It's not supposed to "showcase the work of a talented designer" --it just features a couple of his creations on display.
It's from the parrot website. Apparently they paid so much for Starck's design they couldn't afford a decent photo stylist.
Looking forward to that Apple not-a-TV set. Could be good.
I don't think Apple will do a car product - even though every time I use my car stereo, or in fact when I buy a new one, I think "I wish Apple made one because these all suck, and suck badly"
Last time I shopped I found one Alpine unit that had a proper iPod-like color LCD screen - iPod-sized too - for the princely sum of $600. I played around with it, usability still sucked balls. Then there's tons of DVD player ones with large screens but no proper iPod integration... it's retarded.
Anything else in a car is pretty refined - the locations and functions of the buttons have all received a lot of thought. Where it breaks down is any technology less than 20 years old... adding an iPod, or GPS.
You lay out what's wrong with existing car stereos and how Apple could improve it greatly and then conclude that Apple has no incentive to go into it.
I think it's more than just improving on car stereos. It will be in-car computing, a seamless extension of what iCloud/iPhone/iPad does now.
i believe Apple's long term goal is to achieve the ubiquitous and hyper-intelligent computing that is best demonstrated by what the federation crew used in Star Trek Next Gen.
There, I fixed that for you.
I was thinking the same thing.
Acclaimed French designer Phillippe Starck revealed in a recent interview that he has been working with Apple on a "revolutionary" new product
He cited Apple's "religious cult of secrecy" for declining to divulge any further information, though he did say the new project is "quite revolutionary."
As for Starck's "revolutionary" comment,
Words are cheap and 'revolutionary' has been reduced to nothing but a marketing term. It is overused and cheapened. Now, when we hear 'revolutionary' we expect something a 'little bit new'. I guess Philippe Starck knows revolutionary is no longer an absolute term and therefore called the project 'quite' revolutionary.
But journalists should see through this (very transparent) marketing trap and avoid using the terms - I mean, please AI - in what way was Philippe Starck's comment 'revolutionary'?
Personally I think he is talking about a TV but not just a redesign of a traditional TV set. More of a re-think of what a tv is and does as suggested in the post the other day which the 'alleged' TV would be called iPanel.
It's a little blind fanboy praise honestly. You ignore the obvious, the screen in your living is driven almost entirely by content, content Apple does not own and currently cannot deliver, content that's already in every living room via a near monopoly that content controllers are reluctant to let anyone near their cash cow. Look no further than what's happened to Netflix. Until that part is worked out, it won't matter if the potential iPanel has Siri, a game console, Apple TV and a motion controller all built in...it's about content.
The whole point of Apple's, let's say, "iPanel", is that it will simplify and diversify the availability of content. Isn't that just what Apple has always done? Come through with negotiations over incredibly difficult/stingy/seemingly unsurmountable industries (music, mobile networks, etc.)? What makes the television/motion picture industries any different? Even if they don't win them all in the beginning, they will after they winning the market with their stunning TV-replacement.
You're being one of those people who doubted Apple could find success in music players, phones, or tablets. Now more than ever all the evidence is pointing toward this project being extremely successful. Not to mention that it is prime time, considering the tv market is in crisis.
You don't have to have faith in, or even be a fan of Apple to see this. It's logic. Just look at the numbers.
I wonder if it's a new product category... Revolutionary is a bold declaration and I'm excited to learn more.
What "new" product has Apple ever come up with? Apple excels at taking a current device and making it sleek, sexy, easy to use, plus the a great ecosystem.