Judge rules Apple must face lawsuit over iPhone data collection

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in iPhone edited January 2014
A lawsuit accusing Apple of collecting users' data against their will through iPhone applications is moving forward after a California judge's ruling.

San Jose-based U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh ruled this week that the discovery phase of the class-action lawsuit will proceed, according to Bloomberg. The judge wants Apple to begin turning over relevant documents to the plaintiffs' lawyers by May 17.

Apple tried unsuccessfully to dismiss the case outright, arguing that the plaintiffs did not identify a "single, concrete injury inflicted on any one of the plaintiffs." The company declined to comment after Koh's ruling was handed down.

The class-action suit has accused Apple of collecting geographical data from users' iPhones even after they said, through settings in the iOS mobile operating system, that they didn't want such information shared.

Location services on the iPhone gained significant attention last year, when a pair of researchers found that iOS was keeping a database file with personal location data. The company quickly released a software update to address the issue.

However, Apple was still hit with lawsuits over Apple's data collection, as users complained in lawsuits that they felt felt the company was "tracking people wherever they go." The issue stemmed from an error in the iOS software that continued to collect location data, in an attempt to improve location services, even after a user had turned off location services on their iPhone.
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  • Reply 1 of 31
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Oh, is this the location data thing, again?



    That's fine. As long as Google, Facebook, et. al. are also brought to trial over this (and their other data thefts). Otherwise it's hypocrisy. 

  • Reply 2 of 31
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,283member


    Why doesn't AI just use a couple of article templates, saving a lot of time writing repetitive stories. Have one for "Lawsuit alleges <fill in the blank>" and another for "<Fill> files patent infringement suit for <fill> use of <fill>". Then simply repeat most of the prior writing pertaining to lawsuits. That would cover a good deal of the recent articles wouldn't it?

     

  • Reply 3 of 31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Why doesn't AI just use a couple of article templates, saving a lot of time writing repetitive stories. Have one for "Lawsuit alleges <fill in the blank>" and another for "<Fill> files patent infringement suit for <fill> use of <fill>". Then simply repeat most of the prior writing pertaining to lawsuits. That would cover a good deal of the recent articles wouldn't it?

     



    Here's some headline/subject matter templates:


     


    _________ commits Outrage against Apple!


     


    Apple Explains Latest Gaffe Using Specious Explanations.


     


    _________ Unfair to Apple!


     


    Apple Beats Analyst Expectations!

  • Reply 4 of 31
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,663member


    again. cell tower and public wifi hotspots data are being collected. Actual GPS data is not. The end results, the plantiffs get $1 itunes gift cards while their lawyers get $1MM.

     

  • Reply 5 of 31
    charlitunacharlituna Posts: 7,205member
    This means nothing. The case could go to trial and Apple could pull out the Eula that everyone agreed to (without reading) that says the collection is approved so long as it is only received by Apple etc. They can't prove Apple allowed anyone else to have the data. And the judge could say Apple did nothing wrong since the only way for another party to see the info is to stel your phone and/or computer. And case over
  • Reply 6 of 31
    redbarchettaredbarchetta Posts: 149member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Oh, is this the location data thing, again?



    That's fine. As long as Google, Facebook, et. al. are also brought to trial over this (and their other data thefts). Otherwise it's hypocrisy. 



     


    That's not what "hypocrisy" means.

  • Reply 7 of 31
    joshajosha Posts: 901member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Oh, is this the location data thing, again?



    That's fine. As long as Google, Facebook, et. al. are also brought to trial over this (and their other data thefts). Otherwise it's hypocrisy. 





    So true.


    I'm amazed how many use an Android device, when it is well known that they are running Google's spyware OS.

  • Reply 8 of 31
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

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    Originally Posted by redbarchetta View Post

    That's not what "hypocrisy" means.


     


    Singling out one company for personal information theft while ignoring it on all others (the ones who make their living off it) isn't hypocrisy?

  • Reply 9 of 31
    gustavgustav Posts: 823member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Singling out one company for personal information theft while ignoring it on all others (the ones who make their living off it) isn't hypocrisy?



    It depends on who we're talking about? It doesn't make one a hypocrite for not suing Google, if they've never owned an Android phone.


     


    Regardless, if I'm not mistaken, this data only ever existed on the user's device and backed up to iTunes on their computer. How can they claim Apple collected this data?

  • Reply 10 of 31
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gustav View Post

    It doesn't make one a hypocrite for not suing Google, if they've never owned an Android phone.


     


    How is that a valid……? The organization responsible for protecting us is ignoring their responsibility when it comes to the companies that actually take your data. 

  • Reply 11 of 31

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redbarchetta View Post

    That's not what "hypocrisy" means.


     


    Singling out one company for personal information theft while ignoring it on all others (the ones who make their living off it) isn't hypocrisy?



     


     


    Actually, yes.  It isn't hypocrisy.  


     


    I think what you are searching for is "selective enforcement".  A wholly different concept.


     


    Hypocrisy would be if, for example, Apple were to accuse Google of data misuse, or vice versa.

  • Reply 12 of 31
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,976member
    Its funny, the previous article "Google violates users privacy", responses "Burn in hell Google"
    This article "Apple violates users privacy" responses "its aiight"
    How's that for hypocrisy?
  • Reply 13 of 31
    just_mejust_me Posts: 590member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    Its funny, the previous article "Google violates users privacy", responses "Burn in hell Google"

    This article "Apple violates users privacy" responses "its aiight"

    How's that for hypocrisy?


    Its APPLEINSIDER.  A fan site for Apple

  • Reply 14 of 31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    Its funny, the previous article "Google violates users privacy", responses "Burn in hell Google"

    This article "Apple violates users privacy" responses "its aiight"

    How's that for hypocrisy?


     


     


    Yes indeed, now THAT is hypocrisy.


     


    It would be better if it were also ironic, but unfortunately, it is par for the course.

  • Reply 15 of 31
    habanerohabanero Posts: 77member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post


    Its APPLEINSIDER.  A fan site for Apple



    But we Apple fans should be less two-faced-- we're smarter than the average mo'

  • Reply 16 of 31
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Its funny, the previous article "Google violates users privacy", responses "Burn in hell Google"
    This article "Apple violates users privacy" responses "its aiight"
    How's that for hypocrisy?

    Well, considering Google's been in and out of the news on a regular basis over the past few years regarding privacy issues and still doesn't seem to give a damn, I'd say that 'burn in hell' was pretty appropriate.
  • Reply 17 of 31
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    Actually, yes.  It isn't hypocrisy.  

    I think what you are searching for is "selective enforcement".  A wholly different concept.

    Hypocrisy would be if, for example, Apple were to accuse Google of data misuse, or vice versa.

    Wrong.

    Tallest Skil is correct.

    "Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have."

    Prosecuting one company while failing to prosecute others guilty of the same thing falls well within this definition.

    Dumbasses.

    And I love the way you trolls have started bumping each others posts with the big 'thumbs up'.

    Truly pathetically funny! (>_<)
  • Reply 18 of 31
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Oh, is this the location data thing, again?



    That's fine. As long as Google, Facebook, et. al. are also brought to trial over this (and their other data thefts). Otherwise it's hypocrisy. 



     


    Judge Koh again?



     

  • Reply 19 of 31
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


     


     


    Yes indeed, now THAT is hypocrisy.


     


    It would be better if it were also ironic, but unfortunately, it is par for the course.



    How could it be hypocrisy?   Apple was never accused of uploading the data to Apple servers, it was just there on the phone and in an individual users backup file on the users own computer - nowhere else.  Google itself has been accused of actively harvesting data and capturing it back to corporate home base, a very different situation.


     


    But hey, we all know that actually acknowledging fact before your posts are beat senseless with it  isn't how you decide to roll.

  • Reply 20 of 31
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,328member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Its funny, the previous article "Google violates users privacy", responses "Burn in hell Google"
    This article "Apple violates users privacy" responses "its aiight"
    How's that for hypocrisy?

    If that were the title of the thread, and if it were true. Otherwise, no.
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