Google's $12.5B acquisition of Motorola Mobility now official

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  • Reply 41 of 53
    oflifeoflife Posts: 120member


    Absolute rubbish. Have you read the pre-order figures for the new Samsung Galaxy SIII, and it isn't even sexy looking!? Amazed me how Apple fans are in total denial about Android.

  • Reply 42 of 53
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oflife View Post

    Have you read the pre-order figures for the new Samsung Galaxy SIII…


     


    Unless it's greater than sales of the iPhone 4 or even the 3GS, who cares?


     


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    , and it isn't even sexy looking!? Amazed me how Apple fans are in total denial about Android.



     


    What do we deny that it doesn't already itself?

  • Reply 43 of 53
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    tbell wrote: »

    Hardware manufacturers probably would love to dump Android now. Except Motorola,  every Android  hardware manufacturer pays a royalty to Microsoft already which roughly translates to what they'd pay Microsoft for a OS license. Further, Microsoft indemnifies hardware partners from lawsuits over parents, something Google does not do. Manufacturers, however, aren't going to abandon Android unless they can get customers to use something else. 

    That's undoubtedly true. But if you were a phone OEM, you'd definitely be giving Windows Mobile a lot more attention. Perhaps instead of selling only Android phones, you might have a couple of Windows phones. Or perhaps instead of 2 Windows phones, you might have 5.

    However it plays out, it will work to Microsoft's advantage.
  • Reply 44 of 53
    nhtnht Posts: 4,522member


     Sanjay Jha...dude seriously earned his millions.  My god he sold the proverbial sows ear as a $12.5B silk purse to Google by pointing a loaded patent gun at Samsung.

  • Reply 45 of 53
    rtm135rtm135 Posts: 310member


    I understand that Google is trying to be "nice" here, but if they really want Android to succeed then they need to follow Apple's business plan and close off Android to Motorola's phones.  Doing so will help eliminate the OS fragmentation that exists today and make Android more competitive against iOS.

  • Reply 46 of 53
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member


    Ah, so $12billion down the drain is now official. 

  • Reply 47 of 53
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,339member


    In an early win for Google's newly purchased patent portfolio, the ITC court published it's recommendation yesterday that Microsoft's Xbox be barred from importation, having been deemed infringing on a couple of Moto patents. Assuming the board confirms the judge's recommendation it goes to a Presidential Review, same as Apple's request to bar the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Unfortunately for MS, Moto's isn't asserting easy-to-fix design patents as Apple is (they're not FRAND either), but personally I'd expect the President to come to their rescue if/when it gets that far.


     


    So on it goes...


    http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/05/748131-480637.pdf


    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/05/itc-judge-recommends-import-ban-on-microsofts-xbox/?comments=1#comments-bar

  • Reply 48 of 53
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    In an early win for Google's newly purchased patent portfolio, the ITC court published it's recommendation yesterday that Microsoft's Xbox be barred from importation, having been deemed infringing on a couple of Moto patents. Assuming the board confirms the judge's recommendation it goes to a Presidential Review, same as Apple's request to bar the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Unfortunately for MS, Moto's isn't asserting easy-to-fix design patents as Apple is (they're not FRAND either), but personally I'd expect the President to come to their rescue if/when it gets that far.

    So on it goes...
    http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/05/748131-480637.pdf
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/05/itc-judge-recommends-import-ban-on-microsofts-xbox/?comments=1#comments-bar

    Why in the world would the President 'come to the rescue' if ITC turns out to be correct and xBox is banned? It's hardly strategic for U.S. interests.

    Furthermore, it's a little early to be counting chickens on this one. ITC has a record of being overturned very, very often. Even if the board confirms the judge's recommendations, Microsoft can head to court to get the ban stayed and the issue heard by a real court.
  • Reply 49 of 53
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    In an early win for Google's newly purchased patent portfolio, the ITC court published it's recommendation yesterday that Microsoft's Xbox be barred from importation, having been deemed infringing on a couple of Moto patents. Assuming the board confirms the judge's recommendation it goes to a Presidential Review, same as Apple's request to bar the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Unfortunately for MS, Moto's isn't asserting easy-to-fix design patents as Apple is (they're not FRAND either), but personally I'd expect the President to come to their rescue if/when it gets that far.


     


    So on it goes...


    http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/05/748131-480637.pdf


    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/05/itc-judge-recommends-import-ban-on-microsofts-xbox/?comments=1#comments-bar



    Personally, I appreciate Google's effort.  I am sure this will make a lot of Xbox users quite pleased.  Banning a wildly popular consumer product is not a good strategy for the "Do no Evil" company.

  • Reply 50 of 53
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,339member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


    Personally, I appreciate Google's effort.  I am sure this will make a lot of Xbox users quite pleased.  Banning a wildly popular consumer product is not a good strategy for the "Do no Evil" company.



    There's a really simple time-honored and proven solution: Negotiate a cross-licensing agreement as is frequently done when two companies have a boatload of IP that both need in order to offer their products and services.


     


    If MS would rather not do that, then what other avenue would you suggest to Motorola?

  • Reply 51 of 53
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,339member


    For those who aren't sure what impact an ITC ruling has, here's the process.


     


    ITC administrative law judges hold hearings to investigate claims of IP infringements for products imported into the US, under authority of the Tariff Act. Their judges' findings and recommendations are then heard by the full ITC commission board who can do a few things with it. They can accept the courts recommendations, they can accept with minor changes, or they can send it back to the court to reconsider.


     


    In this case if Judge Shaw's ruling is accepted by the ITC commission it becomes final and then sent to Pres. Obama. He has 60 days to review it, tossing it out if he chooses or letting it ride. After that 60-day review period the final determination can only be appealed to the Federal Court of Appeals.

  • Reply 52 of 53
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    For those who aren't sure what impact an ITC ruling has, here's the process.


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    <p class="summary" style="line-height:1.42em;">ITC administrative law judges investigate claims of IP infringement against products that are imported to the US, under authority of the Tariff Act. Their judges' findings and recommendations  are then heard by the full ITC commission board, who can do a few different things with it. They can accept the courts recommendations, which makes them final, they can accept with minor changes, or they can send it back to the ITC judge to reconsider.</p>

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    <p class="summary" style="line-height:1.42em;">In this case, if Judge Shaw's ruling is accepted by the ITC commission, it's final and sent to Pres. Obama who has 60 days to look at it, tossing it out if he so chooses or letting it proceed. After that 60-day review period an order banning specific versions of the Xbox can only be appealed to the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals.</p>

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    Yes, but that doesn't answer the question. Why would Obama 'come to Microsoft's rescue' if ITC rules against them?
  • Reply 53 of 53
    theoboldtheobold Posts: 74member


    nor did apple invent the touch screen, pitch to zoom, the cell phone for that matter. -Wait a minute, didn't motorolla do that?

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