Apple's iPad helps budget airline cut 2 tons of TVs

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in iPad edited January 2014
Budget airline Scoot Pte's switch to using Apple's iPad for its in-flight entertainment helped the company cut two tons of televisions and other related equipment from its airplanes.

The airline, a low-cost subsidiary of Singapore Airlines, removed the entertainment equipment while outfitting planes it had received from its parent company, according to a Bloomberg report. Chief Executive Officer Campbell Wilson told the publication that his company had managed to cut 7 percent of the planes' weight, while simultaneously increasing seating by 40 percent.

Instead of television service, Scoot Pte will offer customers iPads pre-loaded with "movies, music, games and television shows," the report noted. Business-class fliers will borrow the iPads for free, while economy passengers will have to pay S$22 ($17) to rent the devices. The airline also has plans to install a wireless system for providing content to customers on its planes.

The iPads will be used in the airline's four Boeing 777s. According to the report, the company plans to expand to a fleet of 14 777s within the next few years.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. transportation research analyst Corrine Png called the switch to iPads a "smart move" because lightening the plane will "help improve fuel efficiency."

Competing airline Qantas claims to be the first to have launched iPad-based in-flight entertainment. The airline announced plans for a streaming iPad service last fall and began testing it in December.



Apple is enjoying steady adoption of its iPad across the aviation industry. After receiving FAA approval last year, several airlines have begun adopting the tablet for use as an electronic flight bag.

Government agencies have also recognized the benefits of Apple's touchscreen tablet for pilots, mechanics and other workers. Earlier this year, The U.S. Air Force awarded a $9.36 million contract to a technology sourcing company for up to 18,000 iPads. The devices will be used as electronic flight bags aboard the branch's cargo aircraft. In April, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration revealed plans to "broadly expand" the use of the iPad among its workers.
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  • Reply 1 of 41
    aizmovaizmov Posts: 988member
    It's a toy
    It will flop
    It is not a PC
    People don't want tablets

    Did I miss anything? :D


    The iPad is a huge part of my life it feels as if I always had an iPad.
  • Reply 2 of 41
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member


    I’m not sure they were using the best TVs for an airplane installation.


     


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  • Reply 3 of 41
    aiaaia Posts: 179member


    While I think this is a smart move, I question the 7% figure given in the article. Given that the empty operating weight of a 777-200 series is around 150 tons, cutting 2 tons would mean a reduction of 1.3% in weight, not 7%. I suspect that there were other weight saving measures taken (in addition to the switch to using iPads) to achieve a 7% overall reduction in weight, however this is not clear from the article.

  • Reply 4 of 41


    I doubt it was 7% off the plane's weight. That's way too much. These things don't have a lot of fat. My guess is 7% from the weight controlled by the airline, meaning seats, entertainment, food carts, etc. Somebody else can do the math, but that sounds plausible, though still surprising, to me.

     

  • Reply 5 of 41

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    Originally Posted by Alonso Perez View Post


    I doubt it was 7% off the plane's weight. That's way too much. These things don't have a lot of fat. My guess is 7% from the weight controlled by the airline, meaning seats, entertainment, food carts, etc. Somebody else can do the math, but that sounds plausible, though still surprising, to me.

     



     


    You're very likely correct, however 2 tons is a lot of weight to lose. Go iPads!!!

  • Reply 6 of 41
    nitronitro Posts: 89member


    WOW!

     

  • Reply 7 of 41
    29922992 Posts: 202member


    I cannot believe that one iPad is lighter than one of those tub-based TV produced 20 years ago!!! ;))


    Go iPad, revolutionize the 20 years ago technology so bloggers can blog about such an innovative product and keep the news paper's front page busy with! ;)


    (And can be rented for ONLY 22 sings, now that is something! Well, I'll bring mine then, no thank you renting it!)

  • Reply 8 of 41
    dluxdlux Posts: 666member


    The numbers simply don't work. 4000 pounds?!? The seat-back screens weigh, at most, 2x an iPad (remember that they don't need to include batteries) and even if you tally up all the cabling and centralized A/V equipment, I just don't see the equivalent of four fully-populated equipment racks hiding somewhere in a plane just to provide entertainment.


     


    (Maybe if they include a bank of Wurlitzer jukeboxes full of vinyl providing the audio...)

  • Reply 9 of 41
    tylerk36tylerk36 Posts: 1,037member


    I love how Apple has revolutionized the the portable digital computing device.  Really have to give Steve and the guys credit for going where the hockey puck was gonna be.  I really hope that Apple can keep developing and revolutionizing the industry.  Who knows what is in store for the next 5 years?


     


    On another note.  How do they prevent iPads from becoming lost on the flight.  People trying to steal them.  I didn't read in the article on how security measures were gonna prevent attempted thefts as the iPad doesn't have a security port for being tethered.  Also how is that name pronounced?  Pte's means Pete's?

  • Reply 10 of 41
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member


    Yeah man, those Airline TVs are always the crappiest, even (especially) flat screens.

  • Reply 11 of 41
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2992 View Post


    I cannot believe that one iPad is lighter than one of those tub-based TV produced 20 years ago!!! ;))


    Go iPad, revolutionize the 20 years ago technology so bloggers can blog about such an innovative product and keep the news paper's front page busy with! ;)


    (And can be rented for ONLY 22 sings, now that is something! Well, I'll bring mine then, no thank you renting it!)



     


    TUB-based indeed. Like a big honking tub of junk.


     


    Next up, iPad to replace... (already happening)...


     


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    And, well, words defy me.


     


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  • Reply 12 of 41
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post



    It's a toy

    It will flop

    It is not a PC

    People don't want tablets

    Did I miss anything? image

    The iPad is a huge part of my life it feels as if I always had an iPad.


     


    The most amazing thing is that a 2012 iPad is way, way better than anything similar on Star Trek (original, nextgen, DS9)*


     


    *Let's ignore the other "spinoffs"

  • Reply 13 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    aia wrote: »
    While I think this is a smart move, I question the 7% figure given in the article. Given that the empty operating weight of a 777-200 series is around 150 tons, cutting 2 tons would mean a reduction of 1.3% in weight, not 7%. I suspect that there were other weight saving measures taken (in addition to the switch to using iPads) to achieve a 7% overall reduction in weight, however this is not clear from the article.

    I read it as the iPads were 7% of the weight of the previous entertainment system.

    The part I question is how they were able to increase seating by 40%. Seems impossible to me.
  • Reply 14 of 41
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 12,720member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I read it as the iPads were 7% of the weight of the previous entertainment system.
    Another poorly written article perhaps? I read the article and frankly it doesn't make sense. I can see the Airline saving some weight especially if the original video system was really old. However 7% of the planes weight is a different story.
    The part I question is how they were able to increase seating by 40%. Seems impossible to me.

    Have you not opened a can of Sardines?. I jest not, as a rather tall person I've literally given up on flying unless I can afford first class. Considering that I use to love flying, especially to new destinations, this is a rather sad development. The TSA and whatever else is going on in the airports don't help the situation. In the end being packed into a plane with several hundred others just doesn't have the positive appeal.
  • Reply 15 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    wizard69 wrote: »
    Another poorly written article perhaps? I read the article and frankly it doesn't make sense. I can see the Airline saving some weight especially if the original video system was really old. However 7% of the planes weight is a different story.
    Looking at the original article it looks like their was a 7% total decrease in weigh of which the switch to iPad and removal of the previous system played a part in that total weight loss.
    Have you not opened a can of Sardines?. I jest not, as a rather tall person I've literally given up on flying unless I can afford first class. Considering that I use to love flying, especially to new destinations, this is a rather sad development. The TSA and whatever else is going on in the airports don't help the situation. In the end being packed into a plane with several hundred others just doesn't have the positive appeal.
    I've been taking Amtrak when feasible. The cost is less than fuel for my car, I get large seats even in the unreserved section that rivals any first/business class airline, there are power outlets at nearly every seat, and often free WiFi, but one of the best things is that I can arrive 5 minutes before it leaves and still have 5 minutes to spare.
  • Reply 16 of 41
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,385member
    So they are reducing fuel costs, and then charging the passengers more to rent the iPad? So just a money making scheme
  • Reply 17 of 41
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,506member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post



    It's a toy

    It will flop

    It is not a PC

    People don't want tablets

    Did I miss anything? image

    The iPad is a huge part of my life it feels as if I always had an iPad.


     


    "The iPad is a huge part of my life it feels as if I always had an iPad."


     


    This says so much in a a very few words...


     


    We are mischaracterizing this as the "post-pc era" -- rather we should refer to the past as the "pre-iPad era".

  • Reply 18 of 41
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,506member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    I read it as the iPads were 7% of the weight of the previous entertainment system.

    The part I question is how they were able to increase seating by 40%. Seems impossible to me.


     


    To paraphrase Bob Newhart as "The Grace L. Ferguson Airline and Storm door  Company" pilot over intercom on a flight to Hawaii:


     


    "I want to apologize for your having to stand all the way.  I can give you a little tip there -- every half hour or so, you'll want to alternate your arms through those straps above you head.   You folks flying tourist, you don't have any straps..."

  • Reply 19 of 41
    misamisa Posts: 827member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    I've been taking Amtrak when feasible. The cost is less than fuel for my car, I get large seats even in the unreserved section that rivals any first/business class airline, there are power outlets at nearly every seat, and often free WiFi, but one of the best things is that I can arrive 5 minutes before it leaves and still have 5 minutes to spare.


    Other than the poor cellular service (everyone on the Amtrak with an iPad is using the same cell signal sent to the train) , I was able to get away with using the iPad for the duration of an entire trip where I would have needed a laptop. So I think there's no further need for a laptop, at least as far as travel is concerned (I have to wonder what people used to do before computers... did they pack a suitcase full of paper on business trips?)


     


    The iPad replaces pretty much every device I would want that I had to take an entire backpack for. Laptop, Video camera*, picture camera*, entertainment (eg nintendo ds), and even the cell phone. I still take the cell phone since pay phones are nearly extinct. Though I suppose it's possible to just use Skype on the iPad.


     


    *The fact that the iPad can do HD video AND take 5Mpixel pictures basically removes the need to take both of these, but the iPad can't do dark indoor shots, nor can it zoom, but for most situations this isn't a big deal. 


     


    I'm actually surprised that prosumer camcorders and lowend dslr/high-end consumer picture cameras haven't merged, they only differ by the ability to plug in a microphone.

  • Reply 20 of 41
    aiaaia Posts: 179member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    I read it as the iPads were 7% of the weight of the previous entertainment system.

    The part I question is how they were able to increase seating by 40%. Seems impossible to me.


     


    Yes, the 40% increase in seating capacity also looked suspicious to me. But it's actually plausible - have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#Specifications

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