I don't like the headline for this story. It's akin to a car review in which the headline is, "The Bugatti Veyron is an awesome car, but too expensive. A car with 1,001HP, an 8-liter 16-cylinder engine with four turbos, and a top speed of 253MPH should not cost this much. It needs to be a lot cheaper."
Santa (aka FedEd delivery guy) just stopped by and I'm loving my new toy! That said, it really is a big step up for me since I bought my last MBP in '08 just before the unibodies came out. No complaints thus far!
uhhg.. i ordered mine right away and it still hasn't shipped. I know its CTO being I ordered with 16GB of ram.. but sheesh.
What did show up today? My Magsafe magesafe 2 adapter... yaaay!! now i can sit and stare at it and put it on and off my older magsafe adapter thinking about how it will plug into my laptop when I finally get it... they say wont be until the 21st - 25th.
"Reviewers ... remain put off by the $2,200 entry price."
Apparently the Reviewers are the only ones who are "put off", Apple can't seem to make them fast enough as shops times have slipped to 3-4 weeks.
It is a misleading headline. If they remain put off they were already put off, right? And 'put off' is a negatively loaded term. I can be put off buying something because I can't afford it, or I can be put off an item because I think it is overpriced. One is reflection of the fact that it is expensive and I can't afford it. The other suggests the item's value is diminished because I am being ripped off.
I agree wholeheartedly I can't even remember the last time using my ethernet port, and the only reason I used my Superdrive is because I couldn't get my Windows installation (via Bootcamp) to work via USB-install. Assuming I'm doing something wrong with the USB-install of Windows via Bootcamp, I could live 100% without both integrated ethernet and the Superdrive.
The only thing I want to be able to do (myself), is upgrade the ram at some point in the future (software and OS'es are not standing still after all), and replace or upgrade the HD and/or battery when they start failing. To me personally that's the only real downside of the new Retina MBP.
I would miss the super drive a little bit. We get the netflix discs in the mail and more often than not watch them on my 2011 MBP. That is really all I have used the drive for. If I were to shell out for a MBP Retina, whats an extra $79 to get the external drive for the times we watch movies in bed?
Why Apple, why? I only wanted THREE things from the new retina MacBook:
1. A retina display with higher res than any computer has ever seen, but priced the SAME as an ordinary display.
2. A super thin ultraportable design, with high performance, long battery life, AND an optical drive inside. Portability matters to me, and therefore I like to carry a stack of scratchable discs with me.
3. The ability to carry a 60” Ethernet cable around with me. NOT 63” but 60”. If I stick the Ethernet-to-Thunderbolt adapter on the end of my Ethernet cable, it becomes an unusable 63” long. WiFi is hard to find, and ALL of Apple’s products should still have Ethernet built-in. Not just some, ALL of them. Updating the old MacBooks Pros as well is just not good enough, Apple.
I think I’ve summed up the feelings of those who don’t see this as the future.
My own credit card awaits next year’s retina 11” Air!
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Originally Posted by russgriz
"Reviewers ... remain put off by the $2,200 entry price."
Apparently the Reviewers are the only ones who are "put off", Apple can't seem to make them fast enough as shops times have slipped to 3-4 weeks.
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
uhhg.. i ordered mine right away and it still hasn't shipped. I know its CTO being I ordered with 16GB of ram.. but sheesh.
What did show up today? My Magsafe magesafe 2 adapter... yaaay!! now i can sit and stare at it and put it on and off my older magsafe adapter thinking about how it will plug into my laptop when I finally get it... they say wont be until the 21st - 25th.
Well, at least you're prepared. I've been using the computer since I got it at about 9:20 am PST and it doesn't look like I'm gonna have to go to the local Apple Store to pick up an adapter till later this afternoon.
If it's any consolation, you may get your order before the ETA in your email. Ordered mine as soon as the store went back online and got the "ships in 5-7 days" and an ETA of anywhere between the 22nd and 26th. Mine's a BTO as well with a processor and RAM upgrade. Didn't bother with the SSD since an external drive would be cheaper anyway.
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
You might want to update your browser, the sarcasm font on that post you responded to doesn't seem to have loaded correctly.
People seem to be willing to pay the price of innovation. Those blazing the trail will help to make the price go down as the components become commodity. Who doesn't want one of these, but I can wait.
I don't know how anyone could consider this pricey for a Mac considering Apple's prices have gone down considerably over the past several year. 3-4 years ago this MacBook Pro would have started at $2999.
I would miss the super drive a little bit. We get the netflix discs in the mail and more often than not watch them on my 2011 MBP. That is really all I have used the drive for. If I were to shell out for a MBP Retina, whats an extra $79 to get the external drive for the times we watch movies in bed?
Or for that matter a $40 third-party external ODD... ...or stream your Netflix movies.....
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
Since you're incapable of reading notation, 60" = 60 inches or 5 feet. 60' = 60 feet. A double quotation mark signifies inches.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
You left out one important fact:
If you really want a cheaper solution, last year's MBPs have been updated and are now available for hundreds of dollars less. Funny how everyone whines that Apple doesn't give choices, but when they do, the alternatives get ignored.
As near as I can see, the only real negative for the way I'd use it is lack of a 17" model, but that's not enough to make me switch to Windows.
As I recall you typically keep your computers for a number of years between upgrades. You could always wait this cycle out and see if it comes back. Otherwise you get haswell rather than ivy, which doesn't seem like a bad option given the further power management improvements that intel has promised.
I don't know how anyone could consider this pricey for a Mac considering Apple's prices have gone down considerably over the past several year. 3-4 years ago this MacBook Pro would have started at $2999.
I remember when Toshiba laptops with a 640x480 "active matrix" color display would cost $4995 so you could see the Windows 3.1 desktop in glorious 8-bit color. I couldn't foresee the day when I could get a 2880x1800 retina display for half the cost, not adjusting for inflation. Seriously, if reviewers cared that much about price, let them go back to their beloved $259 Netbooks running crippled Windows Starter Edition.
I don't like the headline for this story. It's akin to a car review in which the headline is, "The Bugatti Veyron is an awesome car, but too expensive. A car with 1,001HP, an 8-liter 16-cylinder engine with four turbos, and a top speed of 253MPH should not cost this much. It needs to be a lot cheaper."
It's misleading. It doesn't seem that any of these reviews have said that he MBPR is a bad value. They are only complaining that the entry level price is high. Anyway, consumers don't seem to think it's cost-prohibitive.
I don't like the headline for this story. It's akin to a car review in which the headline is, "The Bugatti Veyron is an awesome car, but too expensive. A car with 1,001HP, an 8-liter 16-cylinder engine with four turbos, and a top speed of 253MPH should not cost this much. It needs to be a lot cheaper."
Also the Bugatti doesn't have a pickup bed in the back for the one time every 3 years I need to haul dirt. To all people freaking about the lack of a DVD drive, get a $40 USB DVD drive for the one time you use it every 3 years. "But a USB drive is not as portable!". Really? So you complain it's not portable but yet you carry around install DVDs and movie DVDs everywhere you go?
Why Apple, why? I only wanted THREE things from the new retina MacBook:
1. A retina display with higher res than any computer has ever seen, but priced the SAME as an ordinary display.
2. A super thin ultraportable design, with high performance, long battery life, AND an optical drive inside. Portability matters to me, and therefore I like to carry a stack of scratchable discs with me.
3. The ability to carry a 60” Ethernet cable around with me. NOT 63” but 60”. If I stick the Ethernet-to-Thunderbolt adapter on the end of my Ethernet cable, it becomes an unusable 63” long. WiFi is hard to find, and ALL of Apple’s products should still have Ethernet built-in. Not just some, ALL of them. Updating the old MacBooks Pros as well is just not good enough, Apple.
I think I’ve summed up the feelings of those who don’t see this as the future.
My own credit card awaits next year’s retina 11” Air!
It's misleading. It doesn't seem that any of these reviews have said that he MBPR is a bad value. They are only complaining that the entry level price is high. Anyway, consumers don't seem to think it's cost-prohibitive.
Neither is the Veyron, it sells quite well... get one today
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I don't like the headline for this story. It's akin to a car review in which the headline is, "The Bugatti Veyron is an awesome car, but too expensive. A car with 1,001HP, an 8-liter 16-cylinder engine with four turbos, and a top speed of 253MPH should not cost this much. It needs to be a lot cheaper."
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Originally Posted by Duo
Santa (aka FedEd delivery guy) just stopped by and I'm loving my new toy! That said, it really is a big step up for me since I bought my last MBP in '08 just before the unibodies came out. No complaints thus far!
uhhg.. i ordered mine right away and it still hasn't shipped. I know its CTO being I ordered with 16GB of ram.. but sheesh.
What did show up today? My Magsafe magesafe 2 adapter... yaaay!! now i can sit and stare at it and put it on and off my older magsafe adapter thinking about how it will plug into my laptop when I finally get it... they say wont be until the 21st - 25th.
Quote:
Originally Posted by russgriz
"Reviewers ... remain put off by the $2,200 entry price."
Apparently the Reviewers are the only ones who are "put off", Apple can't seem to make them fast enough as shops times have slipped to 3-4 weeks.
It is a misleading headline. If they remain put off they were already put off, right? And 'put off' is a negatively loaded term. I can be put off buying something because I can't afford it, or I can be put off an item because I think it is overpriced. One is reflection of the fact that it is expensive and I can't afford it. The other suggests the item's value is diminished because I am being ripped off.
@Ryuk;
I agree wholeheartedly
The only thing I want to be able to do (myself), is upgrade the ram at some point in the future (software and OS'es are not standing still after all), and replace or upgrade the HD and/or battery when they start failing. To me personally that's the only real downside of the new Retina MBP.
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Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers
"Pretty but pricey" isn't that Apple's motto?
The new Retina MBP is $300 cheaper then the old MBP when it first came out with the same specs.
I would miss the super drive a little bit. We get the netflix discs in the mail and more often than not watch them on my 2011 MBP. That is really all I have used the drive for. If I were to shell out for a MBP Retina, whats an extra $79 to get the external drive for the times we watch movies in bed?
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Originally Posted by nagromme
Why Apple, why? I only wanted THREE things from the new retina MacBook:
1. A retina display with higher res than any computer has ever seen, but priced the SAME as an ordinary display.
2. A super thin ultraportable design, with high performance, long battery life, AND an optical drive inside. Portability matters to me, and therefore I like to carry a stack of scratchable discs with me.
3. The ability to carry a 60” Ethernet cable around with me. NOT 63” but 60”. If I stick the Ethernet-to-Thunderbolt adapter on the end of my Ethernet cable, it becomes an unusable 63” long. WiFi is hard to find, and ALL of Apple’s products should still have Ethernet built-in. Not just some, ALL of them. Updating the old MacBooks Pros as well is just not good enough, Apple.
I think I’ve summed up the feelings of those who don’t see this as the future.
My own credit card awaits next year’s retina 11” Air!
Quote:
Originally Posted by russgriz
"Reviewers ... remain put off by the $2,200 entry price."
Apparently the Reviewers are the only ones who are "put off", Apple can't seem to make them fast enough as shops times have slipped to 3-4 weeks.
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
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Originally Posted by doh123
uhhg.. i ordered mine right away and it still hasn't shipped. I know its CTO being I ordered with 16GB of ram.. but sheesh.
What did show up today? My Magsafe magesafe 2 adapter... yaaay!! now i can sit and stare at it and put it on and off my older magsafe adapter thinking about how it will plug into my laptop when I finally get it... they say wont be until the 21st - 25th.
Well, at least you're prepared. I've been using the computer since I got it at about 9:20 am PST and it doesn't look like I'm gonna have to go to the local Apple Store to pick up an adapter till later this afternoon.
If it's any consolation, you may get your order before the ETA in your email. Ordered mine as soon as the store went back online and got the "ships in 5-7 days" and an ETA of anywhere between the 22nd and 26th. Mine's a BTO as well with a processor and RAM upgrade. Didn't bother with the SSD since an external drive would be cheaper anyway.
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Originally Posted by msimpson
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
You might want to update your browser, the sarcasm font on that post you responded to doesn't seem to have loaded correctly.
People seem to be willing to pay the price of innovation. Those blazing the trail will help to make the price go down as the components become commodity. Who doesn't want one of these, but I can wait.
I don't know how anyone could consider this pricey for a Mac considering Apple's prices have gone down considerably over the past several year. 3-4 years ago this MacBook Pro would have started at $2999.
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Originally Posted by ExceptionHandler
I would miss the super drive a little bit. We get the netflix discs in the mail and more often than not watch them on my 2011 MBP. That is really all I have used the drive for. If I were to shell out for a MBP Retina, whats an extra $79 to get the external drive for the times we watch movies in bed?
Or for that matter a $40 third-party external ODD... ...or stream your Netflix movies.....
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Originally Posted by msimpson
LMAO. Wi-fi is hard to find? What national park do you live in?
A 63 ft Ethernet cable would be larger and heavier than a MBPR. Maybe you can write Tim Cook and ask him to include a hose reel attachment for the MacBook
Since you're incapable of reading notation, 60" = 60 inches or 5 feet. 60' = 60 feet. A double quotation mark signifies inches.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jragosta
You left out one important fact:
If you really want a cheaper solution, last year's MBPs have been updated and are now available for hundreds of dollars less. Funny how everyone whines that Apple doesn't give choices, but when they do, the alternatives get ignored.
As near as I can see, the only real negative for the way I'd use it is lack of a 17" model, but that's not enough to make me switch to Windows.
As I recall you typically keep your computers for a number of years between upgrades. You could always wait this cycle out and see if it comes back. Otherwise you get haswell rather than ivy, which doesn't seem like a bad option given the further power management improvements that intel has promised.
I remember when Toshiba laptops with a 640x480 "active matrix" color display would cost $4995 so you could see the Windows 3.1 desktop in glorious 8-bit color. I couldn't foresee the day when I could get a 2880x1800 retina display for half the cost, not adjusting for inflation. Seriously, if reviewers cared that much about price, let them go back to their beloved $259 Netbooks running crippled Windows Starter Edition.
"It's got less glare than previous MacBook Pro screens"
WOW, How could they do it?
Hint: matte screens have no glare!!!
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Originally Posted by zunx
"It's got less glare than previous MacBook Pro screens"
WOW, How could they do it?
Hint: matte screens have no glare!!!
The retina MacBook Pro has a glossy screen. Just one designed to reduce glare over previous ones.
It's misleading. It doesn't seem that any of these reviews have said that he MBPR is a bad value. They are only complaining that the entry level price is high. Anyway, consumers don't seem to think it's cost-prohibitive.
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Originally Posted by macinthe408
I don't like the headline for this story. It's akin to a car review in which the headline is, "The Bugatti Veyron is an awesome car, but too expensive. A car with 1,001HP, an 8-liter 16-cylinder engine with four turbos, and a top speed of 253MPH should not cost this much. It needs to be a lot cheaper."
Also the Bugatti doesn't have a pickup bed in the back for the one time every 3 years I need to haul dirt. To all people freaking about the lack of a DVD drive, get a $40 USB DVD drive for the one time you use it every 3 years. "But a USB drive is not as portable!". Really? So you complain it's not portable but yet you carry around install DVDs and movie DVDs everywhere you go?
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Originally Posted by nagromme
Why Apple, why? I only wanted THREE things from the new retina MacBook:
1. A retina display with higher res than any computer has ever seen, but priced the SAME as an ordinary display.
2. A super thin ultraportable design, with high performance, long battery life, AND an optical drive inside. Portability matters to me, and therefore I like to carry a stack of scratchable discs with me.
3. The ability to carry a 60” Ethernet cable around with me. NOT 63” but 60”. If I stick the Ethernet-to-Thunderbolt adapter on the end of my Ethernet cable, it becomes an unusable 63” long. WiFi is hard to find, and ALL of Apple’s products should still have Ethernet built-in. Not just some, ALL of them. Updating the old MacBooks Pros as well is just not good enough, Apple.
I think I’ve summed up the feelings of those who don’t see this as the future.
My own credit card awaits next year’s retina 11” Air!
I don't like Wifi. Apart from that, fun piece.
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Originally Posted by BigBillyGoatGruff
It's misleading. It doesn't seem that any of these reviews have said that he MBPR is a bad value. They are only complaining that the entry level price is high. Anyway, consumers don't seem to think it's cost-prohibitive.
Neither is the Veyron, it sells quite well... get one today