I hope Apple doesn't get that cocky; there are divergent needs afoot, and I am sure some people want a 3" screen as much as others want 5", and neither party will be satisfied by 4". It is a sad reason to leave the ecosystem, but if you factor it into your costs you may still come out ahead.
The much reported 4" screen on the next iPhone may be a happy compromise?
I did exactly the same about 8 months ago switching from my iPhone to Galaxy S2 n thought its will provide me not all but at least quite similar great experience as what on IOS device. Unfortunately that not all true as what I expected, It basically just a basic cheap phone with a large display plus a few gimmick e.g. Live wallpaper n some free apps with tons of ads that really annoyed me. Beside, the overall quality of hardware is sub standard in comparison to iPhone (guess because it cheaper) n I can't wait to get my hand on new iPhone again when it release some time in Sep or Oct.
Same here. Heck, my wife's "feature" phone is a Samsung. Also her last. I think I finally got her willing to pay for data!
Yup. I know that the stereotype (only held by Android fans) is that all iPhone users are stupid sheep, but the fact is? We are mostly people who are too busy living life to waste time on managing our phone/computers. Apple products suit me perfectly. I work all day, I don't want to go home and fiddle with this, check the compatibility of that.
I want to know that the video I took on my iPhone can easily appear on my iPad or iMac. The pictures I took on my iPhone? Once I am on WiFi, my wife at home can pull out the iPad or iMac or Apple TV and see them. No configuration necessary. No "I wonder if this will work"
These items are meant to make the important things easier. Do their job, and GET OUT OF THE WAY.
And, for the most part? That is what Apple products do.
Great point. I, The Eternal Emperor, for example an a professional software developer of over 17yrs. I have expertise primarily in Java, but also have worked in C/C++, C#, a several scripting languages, several RDBMS(Oracle, DB2,SQL Server, Postgress, Hypersonic), several frameworks, multiple OS(primarily Windows and several Unix flavors(SunOS,Solaris,HPUX,Aix,Linux(keeps going...))
My main bread and butter uses open source like Spring, Hibernate, tomcate, Quartz, etc. Why iOS? My time is too valuable to futz around with my phone. I get enough of that with my window 7 dev box. I want something that works well, painlessly for my wife, my kids and me. I don't want to worry that my banking app is a trojan and have a need to run AV on my one.
Apple just works. My only real complain is my AppleTV doesn't work as well because I have two wi-fi networks(long story). But it does work. I simply don't see Samsung as compelling. As a developer, I find their copying blatant and distasteful.
I'm not married to Apple and would leave in the fact of something better. But what's better. What integrates better than an iPhone, iPad and Apple TV? And it works well enough on Windows that I can keep my main work and home machine as the same machine. Heck, OSX is even Unix!!
I find that people who talk about rooting don't value their time. What's difference between a guy who can root a phone and the guy who mows my lawn? I pay the guy who mows. No one values the skill of rooting. It is a near useless skill mentioned by braggarts, IMO, who are insecure about their own talents.
I did exactly the same about 8 months ago switching from my iPhone to Galaxy S2 n thought its will provide me not all but at least quite similar great experience as what on IOS device. Unfortunately that not all true as what I expected, It basically just a basic cheap phone with a large display plus a few gimmick e.g. Live wallpaper n some free apps with tons of ads that really annoyed me. Beside, the overall quality of hardware is sub standard in comparison to iPhone (guess because it cheaper) n I can't wait to get my hand on new iPhone again when it release some time in Sep or Oct.
Looks like you're on-board for an iPhone 5. In light of iPhone release history, it's usually the full-numbered,
non-S versions that are the big platform upgrades, or at least the "next gen" of the device.
I've avoided the "S" variants, great as they were. I happily hung on to my device for an extra year,
all the while getting great updates for it, essentially rendering it a new phone each time.
It looks like my iPhone 4 will never see iOS 6, because by that time I'll have sprung for the new iPhone.
Most people will see your post as evidence that it is not the smart people moving from iOS to Android. Enjoy you feeling of superiority. Seek help.
I don't understand your reaction, especially since I am not in the group of people you're denigrating. Am I stupid for wanting access to my music on all my devices? I had non-apple products before I got my iPhones, iMac, iPod, and Apple TV. Rather than manually converting everything to mp3 duplicates (or needlessly buying additional iPods), this could be a real time saver if it works for any device that is seen as a removable drive, so I don't have to take my $120 moisture intolerant iPod on runs.
Your attitude reinforces the notion that Apple fans are intolerant, nasty, and insular.
Congratulations to Samsung on watching the 2002 Apple WWDC and 'innovating' iSync, a piece of software created by Apple ten entire years ago for mobile phones in general.
It doesn't matter whether you do hardware or software: You guys rock!
(Does the Samsung transfer tool include a gun so I can shoot myself in the head for being so stupid to swap to them?)
I personally owned 3 iPhones until last December - now a happy Galaxy user. I don't see why I should switch back to that small 3.6" display smartphone anytime soon.
Ah, I see you are enjoying the latest "whine de jour" complaint of the Android spivs.
First it was the keyboard.
The camera.
The lack of MMS.
The screen is too big.
Video calls.
And many other whining, ineffective complaints over the years.
The annoyance with the SG III's excessive screen size starts during one handed set up when one of the steps may involve stretching one's thumb to the top left corner of the screen, this involves a sort of juggling, sliding movement to get your thumb close enough.
It depends on what you consider conservative. The iPhone 4S has 2-3 times the CPU power and 7x the GPU power of the iPhone 4 which is a massive increase in performance in one generation. The performance difference between the Galaxy S2 and S3 for example is no where near as much. The iPhone 4S was missing an external redesign which is what people ended up focusing on. With Apple seeming to do major internal redesigns and major external redesigns on alternating years, the iPhone 5 may get a new form factor but only a marginal increase in performance which will no doubt be the new complaint. Admittedly I don't know whether a combined iterative improvement on both the internals and externals each year or an alternating major revamp of the internals and externals is a better strategy.
In the case of iPhone 4 owners switching, part of the issue is that Apple changed the regular launch schedule of the new iPhone from June/July to September/October. This means initial June 2010 iPhone 4 buyers are now coming off their 2 year contracts and to stay with iOS either have to wait 3 more months for the iPhone 5 or buy the nearing-replacement iPhone 4S, neither of which are ideal if you are looking for a timely upgrade, which makes switching away from iOS a more viable option.
"Conservative" meaning it doesn't come in hot pink.
To get Apple users to switch to Galaxy, Sam-Sux must:
1. Get rid of the cheap plastic material and make the body of the phone look and feel expensive, like Apple.
2. Make phone's user interface look more gorgeous, like Apple.
3. Let users re-download previously purchased apps on any device, like Apple.
However, Sam-Sux only cares about bringing manufacturing costs down to increase their margin, the above three things will never happen. You can expect their upcoming Windows 8 phones to feel the same or worse than the current android devices because Sam-Sux will have to pay for the OS, driving their manufacturing costs even higher.
Well, I think that's a clever move by Samsung. Remember Apple's iPhone is a smartphone for people not smart enough to use Android. Samsung is attracting more sophisticated users who grew out of the Apple's lala land away - while the dumb users, a sizable majority among Apple customer base, will probably stay with Apple's iPhone for a while.
I personally owned 3 iPhones until last December - now a happy Galaxy user. I don't see why I should switch back to that small 3.6" display smartphone anytime soon.
What a total crock of BS! Funny how the trolls work their way in! By and large, iPhone users are wealthier, better educated and smarter than Android users. How smart can you possibly be when the majority of Android users buy a phone that is already obsolete and running an old version of the OS before they even walk out of the store?
I had an iPhone 3GS and now an iPhone 4. My wife has an iPhone 4 and my son has the 4S. While this app on its own isn't enough to entice me to switch from my beloved iPhone to a Galaxy, the larger screen, openness of Android and the Galaxy camera app all have me seriously considering ditching my iPhone for a Galaxy.
The larger screen of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has lower resolution, horrible compliance with the Standard Color Gamut and poor visibility in direct sunlight.
The "openness" of Android provides few advantages to users, in fact, the openness of Android provides many disadvantages to users. Why sacrifice efficient power management, reliability, security and privacy as well as software updates for themes and wallpapers?
I am not sure why you believe the Samsung Galaxy S3 camera is superior to iPhone 4S. The new iPhone will likely be superior to iPhone 4S which already rivals (if it is not superior even) to Samsung Galaxy S3.
Well, I think that's a clever move by Samsung. Remember Apple's iPhone is a smartphone for people not smart enough to use Android. Samsung is attracting more sophisticated users who grew out of the Apple's lala land away - while the dumb users, a sizable majority among Apple customer base, will probably stay with Apple's iPhone for a while.
I personally owned 3 iPhones until last December - now a happy Galaxy user. I don't see why I should switch back to that small 3.6" display smartphone anytime soon.
You are stating that Apple iPhone users are stupid.
What does it say about you that you don't even know the screen size of the three Apple iPhones you supposedly had until December? This suggests to me that you may have misidentified the smart users.
The larger screen of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has lower resolution, horrible compliance with the Standard Color Gamut and poor visibility in direct sunlight.
Where did you read it had poor visibility in direct light? Anandtech has a few words on the display here:
Well, I think that's a clever move by Samsung. Remember Apple's iPhone is a smartphone for people not smart enough to use Android.
How would Android users be "smarter"?
You mean "smarter" in general (i.e., Professionals with advanced degrees, scholars, lawyers, doctors) or "tech nerds" that like to f*ck with the settings morning noon and night?
(Seems it's usually the latter.)
God bless 'em, some of the smartest people in communities around the world aren't "computer savvy." They'd prefer their tech to actually do most of the work for them, so they can get on with doing REAL work, like litigating cases, performing surgeries, writing books, making music, or any of the other things that require tech to be the TOOL, not the end unto itself.
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Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh
I hope Apple doesn't get that cocky; there are divergent needs afoot, and I am sure some people want a 3" screen as much as others want 5", and neither party will be satisfied by 4". It is a sad reason to leave the ecosystem, but if you factor it into your costs you may still come out ahead.
The much reported 4" screen on the next iPhone may be a happy compromise?
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Wow brilliant! Now all those Apple haters can switch from iPhones to Android ... oh wait a minute ...
LOL.
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Originally Posted by LarryA
I might use this. No, not to switch to Android, but I wonder if it will transfer my iTunes media to my non-Apple MP3 player. ...
If you read the article you will see that it only transfers the non-DRMed content.
You can transfer that stuff any old time using any one of a hundred different methods/applications.
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Originally Posted by starbird
Same here. Heck, my wife's "feature" phone is a Samsung. Also her last. I think I finally got her willing to pay for data!
Yup. I know that the stereotype (only held by Android fans) is that all iPhone users are stupid sheep, but the fact is? We are mostly people who are too busy living life to waste time on managing our phone/computers. Apple products suit me perfectly. I work all day, I don't want to go home and fiddle with this, check the compatibility of that.
I want to know that the video I took on my iPhone can easily appear on my iPad or iMac. The pictures I took on my iPhone? Once I am on WiFi, my wife at home can pull out the iPad or iMac or Apple TV and see them. No configuration necessary. No "I wonder if this will work"
These items are meant to make the important things easier. Do their job, and GET OUT OF THE WAY.
And, for the most part? That is what Apple products do.
Great point. I, The Eternal Emperor, for example an a professional software developer of over 17yrs. I have expertise primarily in Java, but also have worked in C/C++, C#, a several scripting languages, several RDBMS(Oracle, DB2,SQL Server, Postgress, Hypersonic), several frameworks, multiple OS(primarily Windows and several Unix flavors(SunOS,Solaris,HPUX,Aix,Linux(keeps going...))
My main bread and butter uses open source like Spring, Hibernate, tomcate, Quartz, etc. Why iOS? My time is too valuable to futz around with my phone. I get enough of that with my window 7 dev box. I want something that works well, painlessly for my wife, my kids and me. I don't want to worry that my banking app is a trojan and have a need to run AV on my one.
Apple just works. My only real complain is my AppleTV doesn't work as well because I have two wi-fi networks(long story). But it does work. I simply don't see Samsung as compelling. As a developer, I find their copying blatant and distasteful.
I'm not married to Apple and would leave in the fact of something better. But what's better. What integrates better than an iPhone, iPad and Apple TV? And it works well enough on Windows that I can keep my main work and home machine as the same machine. Heck, OSX is even Unix!!
I find that people who talk about rooting don't value their time. What's difference between a guy who can root a phone and the guy who mows my lawn? I pay the guy who mows. No one values the skill of rooting. It is a near useless skill mentioned by braggarts, IMO, who are insecure about their own talents.
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Originally Posted by CWTSTA
I did exactly the same about 8 months ago switching from my iPhone to Galaxy S2 n thought its will provide me not all but at least quite similar great experience as what on IOS device. Unfortunately that not all true as what I expected, It basically just a basic cheap phone with a large display plus a few gimmick e.g. Live wallpaper n some free apps with tons of ads that really annoyed me. Beside, the overall quality of hardware is sub standard in comparison to iPhone (guess because it cheaper) n I can't wait to get my hand on new iPhone again when it release some time in Sep or Oct.
Looks like you're on-board for an iPhone 5. In light of iPhone release history, it's usually the full-numbered,
non-S versions that are the big platform upgrades, or at least the "next gen" of the device.
I've avoided the "S" variants, great as they were. I happily hung on to my device for an extra year,
all the while getting great updates for it, essentially rendering it a new phone each time.
It looks like my iPhone 4 will never see iOS 6, because by that time I'll have sprung for the new iPhone.
I don't understand your reaction, especially since I am not in the group of people you're denigrating. Am I stupid for wanting access to my music on all my devices? I had non-apple products before I got my iPhones, iMac, iPod, and Apple TV. Rather than manually converting everything to mp3 duplicates (or needlessly buying additional iPods), this could be a real time saver if it works for any device that is seen as a removable drive, so I don't have to take my $120 moisture intolerant iPod on runs.
Your attitude reinforces the notion that Apple fans are intolerant, nasty, and insular.
I would think iOS users switching to Samsung would be rarer than a three fingered Martian with a purple nose.
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Congratulations to Samsung on watching the 2002 Apple WWDC and 'innovating' iSync, a piece of software created by Apple ten entire years ago for mobile phones in general.
It doesn't matter whether you do hardware or software: You guys rock!
(Does the Samsung transfer tool include a gun so I can shoot myself in the head for being so stupid to swap to them?)
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
I personally owned 3 iPhones until last December - now a happy Galaxy user. I don't see why I should switch back to that small 3.6" display smartphone anytime soon.
Ah, I see you are enjoying the latest "whine de jour" complaint of the Android spivs.
First it was the keyboard.
The camera.
The lack of MMS.
The screen is too big.
Video calls.
And many other whining, ineffective complaints over the years.
The annoyance with the SG III's excessive screen size starts during one handed set up when one of the steps may involve stretching one's thumb to the top left corner of the screen, this involves a sort of juggling, sliding movement to get your thumb close enough.
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Originally Posted by hill60
"this involves a sort of juggling, sliding movement to get your thumb close enough."
I believe the technical term for this is 'jacking off'.
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Originally Posted by ltcommander.data
It depends on what you consider conservative. The iPhone 4S has 2-3 times the CPU power and 7x the GPU power of the iPhone 4 which is a massive increase in performance in one generation. The performance difference between the Galaxy S2 and S3 for example is no where near as much. The iPhone 4S was missing an external redesign which is what people ended up focusing on. With Apple seeming to do major internal redesigns and major external redesigns on alternating years, the iPhone 5 may get a new form factor but only a marginal increase in performance which will no doubt be the new complaint. Admittedly I don't know whether a combined iterative improvement on both the internals and externals each year or an alternating major revamp of the internals and externals is a better strategy.
In the case of iPhone 4 owners switching, part of the issue is that Apple changed the regular launch schedule of the new iPhone from June/July to September/October. This means initial June 2010 iPhone 4 buyers are now coming off their 2 year contracts and to stay with iOS either have to wait 3 more months for the iPhone 5 or buy the nearing-replacement iPhone 4S, neither of which are ideal if you are looking for a timely upgrade, which makes switching away from iOS a more viable option.
"Conservative" meaning it doesn't come in hot pink.
To get Apple users to switch to Galaxy, Sam-Sux must:
1. Get rid of the cheap plastic material and make the body of the phone look and feel expensive, like Apple.
2. Make phone's user interface look more gorgeous, like Apple.
3. Let users re-download previously purchased apps on any device, like Apple.
However, Sam-Sux only cares about bringing manufacturing costs down to increase their margin, the above three things will never happen. You can expect their upcoming Windows 8 phones to feel the same or worse than the current android devices because Sam-Sux will have to pay for the OS, driving their manufacturing costs even higher.
What a total crock of BS! Funny how the trolls work their way in! By and large, iPhone users are wealthier, better educated and smarter than Android users. How smart can you possibly be when the majority of Android users buy a phone that is already obsolete and running an old version of the OS before they even walk out of the store?
The larger screen of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has lower resolution, horrible compliance with the Standard Color Gamut and poor visibility in direct sunlight.
The "openness" of Android provides few advantages to users, in fact, the openness of Android provides many disadvantages to users. Why sacrifice efficient power management, reliability, security and privacy as well as software updates for themes and wallpapers?
I am not sure why you believe the Samsung Galaxy S3 camera is superior to iPhone 4S. The new iPhone will likely be superior to iPhone 4S which already rivals (if it is not superior even) to Samsung Galaxy S3.
You are stating that Apple iPhone users are stupid.
What does it say about you that you don't even know the screen size of the three Apple iPhones you supposedly had until December? This suggests to me that you may have misidentified the smart users.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
The larger screen of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has lower resolution, horrible compliance with the Standard Color Gamut and poor visibility in direct sunlight.
Where did you read it had poor visibility in direct light? Anandtech has a few words on the display here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/7
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
Well, I think that's a clever move by Samsung. Remember Apple's iPhone is a smartphone for people not smart enough to use Android.
How would Android users be "smarter"?
You mean "smarter" in general (i.e., Professionals with advanced degrees, scholars, lawyers, doctors) or "tech nerds" that like to f*ck with the settings morning noon and night?
(Seems it's usually the latter.)
God bless 'em, some of the smartest people in communities around the world aren't "computer savvy." They'd prefer their tech to actually do most of the work for them, so they can get on with doing REAL work, like litigating cases, performing surgeries, writing books, making music, or any of the other things that require tech to be the TOOL, not the end unto itself.
We can play this game all day.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781 (http://macdailynews.com/2011/08/16/iphone-users-smarter-richer-less-conservative-than-android-phone-users/)
http://blog.iqelite.com/2010/10/01/it-is-finally-proven-apple-users-are-more-intelligent-than-pc-users-2/
and so on . . .