You should be pleasantly surprised. Upon reading your remark I did some tests for London, England.
The following queries were handled with aplomb:
A couple of notes. I needed to say "London, England" as there is a city relatively near my current location sharing the name.
Me: "I am looking for McDonald's in London, England."
Siri: "Here are 15 McDonald's in London, England."
Me: "Show me Big Ben in London, England."
Siri: "Here is Big Ben in London, England."
Me: "I would like a great Italian restaurant in London, England"
Siri: "Here are 15 Italian restaurants in London, England"
A couple of notes. I needed to say "London, England" as there is a
city relatively near my current location sharing the name.
You don't need to keep saying "London, England".
After the first time, it will use London, England as a reference. "Show me Big Ben" & " I would like a great Italian restaurant" will return hits in London, England.
This is how it currently works also.
I know Siri is has semantic understanding and context awareness but in these instances due to a very high preference for local search I did need to state London, England for every search every time. I am clearly not located near London, England and this may be due to a data artifact caused by the presence of a nearby city of the same name.
So you're telling me that the detail level in this phonearena.com side-by-side example will somehow be equalized by the end of the beta?
No, he's saying your comparing a beta to a moderately finished product, which is fallacy in and of itself.
But MarkByrn's point (or "concern", to make it sound more neutral) is that it looks like there's a lot of coding to be done in the next 3 or 4 months before Maps is rolled out. And I don't think Apple can just slap a "Beta" label on it like Siri, and expect people to be forgiving. For example, if Apple hasn't gotten maps to show subway stations by the time of roll-out (see phonearena images for what I'm talking about), people are going to (1) be instantly pissed, and then (2) download Google Maps and not use the Apple product again. They're not going to say "Oh, it's just Maps Beta; I'll wait to use the subway until Apple updates the app."
I want Apple to succeed here, but it's a high hurdle that Google's set. Our point is that we don't want Apple to flub it with a "Beta" product that has much less data and looks kind of cobbled together.
But MarkByrn's point (or "concern", to make it sound more neutral) is that it looks like there's a lot of coding to be done in the next 3 or 4 months before Maps is rolled out.
Okay, so do you think they can't do it? This is Apple we're talking about.
But MarkByrn's point (or "concern", to make it sound more neutral) is that it looks like there's a lot of coding to be done in the next 3 or 4 months before Maps is rolled out. And I don't think Apple can just slap a "Beta" label on it like Siri, and expect people to be forgiving. For example, if Apple hasn't gotten maps to show subway stations by the time of roll-out (see phonearena images for what I'm talking about), people are going to (1) be instantly pissed, and then (2) download Google Maps and not use the Apple product again. They're not going to say "Oh, it's just Maps Beta; I'll wait to use the subway until Apple updates the app."
I want Apple to succeed here, but it's a high hurdle that Google's set. Our point is that we don't want Apple to flub it with a "Beta" product that has much less data and looks kind of cobbled together.
Have you even used the new Maps?
Apple has already hit 80% of the targets and provides new functionality as well. The current beta implementation of Maps does enough to convert most people to Maps happily. Frankly, given that Maps is the default mapping and navigation app and is integrated with Siri the ease-of-use will likely be the key feature that wins over most users.
Have you not read the ubiquitous statements about Apple allowing developers to create public transit directions for Maps?
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I know Siri is has semantic understanding and context awareness but in these instances due to a very high preference for local search I did need to state London, England for every search every time. I am clearly not located near London, England and this may be due to a data artifact caused by the presence of a nearby city of the same name.
Except it's called a "beta", so you'd do well to lie again with a different topic.
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So you're telling me that the detail level in this phonearena.com side-by-side example will somehow be equalized by the end of the beta?
No, he's saying your comparing a beta to a moderately finished product, which is fallacy in and of itself.
But MarkByrn's point (or "concern", to make it sound more neutral) is that it looks like there's a lot of coding to be done in the next 3 or 4 months before Maps is rolled out. And I don't think Apple can just slap a "Beta" label on it like Siri, and expect people to be forgiving. For example, if Apple hasn't gotten maps to show subway stations by the time of roll-out (see phonearena images for what I'm talking about), people are going to (1) be instantly pissed, and then (2) download Google Maps and not use the Apple product again. They're not going to say "Oh, it's just Maps Beta; I'll wait to use the subway until Apple updates the app."
I want Apple to succeed here, but it's a high hurdle that Google's set. Our point is that we don't want Apple to flub it with a "Beta" product that has much less data and looks kind of cobbled together.
Okay, so do you think they can't do it? This is Apple we're talking about.
Have you even used the new Maps?
Apple has already hit 80% of the targets and provides new functionality as well. The current beta implementation of Maps does enough to convert most people to Maps happily. Frankly, given that Maps is the default mapping and navigation app and is integrated with Siri the ease-of-use will likely be the key feature that wins over most users.
Have you not read the ubiquitous statements about Apple allowing developers to create public transit directions for Maps?
Why?