Not true. They will honor it, but they will no longer subsidize your new phone. If you want to keep unlimited data then you have to pony up all the cash for your new phone.
If you upgrade to LTE or get a new contract or get a subsidized phone you will get a new (not unlimited) data plan.
If you pay full price for a phone and do not go on contract, you can keep the unlimited plan but it will be 3G, not LTE.
"LTE is our anchor point for data share. So as you come through an upgrade cycle and you upgrade in the future, you will have to go onto a data share plan. And moving away from, if you will, the unlimited world and moving everyone into a tiered structure/data share type plan.
So when you think about our 3G base, a lot of our 3G base is unlimited. As they start migrating to 4G they will have to come off of unlimited and go into the data share plan. And that’s beneficial for us for many reason, obviously."
Verizon CFO Fran Shammo @ JP Morgan Media and Telecom conference in May 2012
Simple idea: Who NEEDS to see the person on the other end - most young folks just text anyhow, and don't care to talk anymore. I predict Facetime will get little real usage anyhow, regardless of the charges levied by the carriers, and any families who do a lot of video talking will just use wifi or skype anyhow, rather than cellular data.
I use Facetime daily with my wife, regularly with my sisters, brother and Mom. Facetime is tremendously better than Skype to me.
I've also confirmed that the Three network in the UK won't charge extra for this. The option to enable use if Mobile Data for FaceTime in iOS6 can also be toggled without a message popping up.
When FaceTime was first announced with the launch of the iPhone 4 in 2010, then-Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs indicated that his company wanted to allow FaceTime calls over 3G, but that Apple needed to "work a little bit with the cellular providers" to bring that capability to users.
Apple already allows some carriers to block or restrict certain functionality on their networks. For example, when iOS 3.0 was released with tethering capabilities, AT&T blocked the paid feature until a year later, with the release of iOS 4.0.
Having experience working at said wireless company, I speculate one of two things are going to happen:
1. AT&T, Verizon, etc are going to make video calls routeable QoS. Similar to how the SMS to iMessage system is seamless, what's likely going to happen is that if you call another mobile device with a video chat application (be it FaceTime or not) it will switch to the native transport at the carrier end.
2. AT&T, Verizon etc are just going to block FaceTime over 3G/LTE by default, and enable it only upon request to prevent unintended data charges, like what happens with international roaming, 1-900, and premium SMS scams.
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Originally Posted by bmason1270
Not true. They will honor it, but they will no longer subsidize your new phone. If you want to keep unlimited data then you have to pony up all the cash for your new phone.
If you upgrade to LTE or get a new contract or get a subsidized phone you will get a new (not unlimited) data plan.
If you pay full price for a phone and do not go on contract, you can keep the unlimited plan but it will be 3G, not LTE.
"LTE is our anchor point for data share. So as you come through an upgrade cycle and you upgrade in the future, you will have to go onto a data share plan. And moving away from, if you will, the unlimited world and moving everyone into a tiered structure/data share type plan.
So when you think about our 3G base, a lot of our 3G base is unlimited. As they start migrating to 4G they will have to come off of unlimited and go into the data share plan. And that’s beneficial for us for many reason, obviously."
Verizon CFO Fran Shammo @ JP Morgan Media and Telecom conference in May 2012
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Originally Posted by Bagman
Simple idea: Who NEEDS to see the person on the other end - most young folks just text anyhow, and don't care to talk anymore. I predict Facetime will get little real usage anyhow, regardless of the charges levied by the carriers, and any families who do a lot of video talking will just use wifi or skype anyhow, rather than cellular data.
I use Facetime daily with my wife, regularly with my sisters, brother and Mom. Facetime is tremendously better than Skype to me.
I've also confirmed that the Three network in the UK won't charge extra for this. The option to enable use if Mobile Data for FaceTime in iOS6 can also be toggled without a message popping up.
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When FaceTime was first announced with the launch of the iPhone 4 in 2010, then-Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs indicated that his company wanted to allow FaceTime calls over 3G, but that Apple needed to "work a little bit with the cellular providers" to bring that capability to users.
Apple already allows some carriers to block or restrict certain functionality on their networks. For example, when iOS 3.0 was released with tethering capabilities, AT&T blocked the paid feature until a year later, with the release of iOS 4.0.
Having experience working at said wireless company, I speculate one of two things are going to happen:
1. AT&T, Verizon, etc are going to make video calls routeable QoS. Similar to how the SMS to iMessage system is seamless, what's likely going to happen is that if you call another mobile device with a video chat application (be it FaceTime or not) it will switch to the native transport at the carrier end.
2. AT&T, Verizon etc are just going to block FaceTime over 3G/LTE by default, and enable it only upon request to prevent unintended data charges, like what happens with international roaming, 1-900, and premium SMS scams.