That's the thing about design patents that always confuses me. Since you make a car analogy, I have a couple examples: A Chrysler 300m looks like Bentley, Hyundai Genesis looks a lot like a Mercedes Benz, Honda NSX looks like a Ferrari. I'd say those are just as similar as the iPad is to the Galaxy. Why don't we see a lot more of these suits?
IANAL so just trying to understand.
Originally Posted by sleepy3
DARN IT!!!!
STOP WITH THE FACTS ALREADY! We don't take kindly to those around here.
But i must say, to me the genesis says more Acura than mercedes. Also, see the f430 and mclaren mp4-12
Not to mention that pretty much every post-war car resembled each other.
But even more than that, I still can't tell the difference between two HDTV's, they all look alike (will be interesting to see how Apple can make a non-rectangular, sharp edged TV)
And is it me, or do Ferragamo wingtips look like a copy of Gucci wingtips?
If i was Ferragamo, I would sue the snot out of Gucci. I mean, Ferragamo cannot be the developer of the shoe world. They are all for innovation, but they can not allow competitors to steal their ideas.
Indeed. This is AppleInsider. Fact have no place here. (i kid... i kid).
But seriously you're right, every flat panel TV and PC monitor looks the same. I couldn't tell a Samsung from a Sony or ViewSonic. Why don't these companies sue each other? I can't even think of who was first (Sony?).
So when did Apple put anything on their website or in the papers claiming Samsung copied the iPad design? So why in the world would they be required to do that now saying Samsung didn't copy the iPad? I don't remember Apple being convicted of libel.
You know the sales figures for Australia or are you just making up things as usual?
For a bunch of thoroughly fact-free posts -- which is all you've done in this thread (I haven't had the stomach to look up your past posts, but I think I have a fairly decent idea) -- you sure do throw your weight around, internet guy!
For a bunch of thoroughly fact-free posts -- which is all you've done in this thread (I haven't had the stomach to look up your past posts, but I think I have a fairly decent idea) -- you sure do throw your weight around, internet guy!
Indeed. This is AppleInsider. Fact have no place here. (i kid... i kid).
But seriously you're right, every flat panel TV and PC monitor looks the same. I couldn't tell a Samsung from a Sony or ViewSonic. Why don't these companies sue each other? I can't even think of who was first (Sony?).
At least partly because those companines don't have the design or technology patents on which to base such an action.
Whether or not Apple should have been granted some of their patents is a reasonable, but moot, question. The patents were granted and Apple would be negligent if they did not defend them, especially since it is pretty clear to many people (but not all - obviously) that Apple single-handedly created the current tablet market (and were ridiculed for it at the outset by much of the industry - which rather devalues the argument that it was obvious and would have happened anyway) and their hardware and software were subsequently largely copied when it became apparent that they were, after all, successful.
What "point"? The fact that Apple had to post as bond some pathetic, deeply-embarrassing-to-Samsung sum of money to compensate for lost sales of the Tab (in the US), in the event of a judgment against it? What makes you think that Australia could be any different, mate? Any remotely relevant evidence you can cite?
C'mon, at the end of the day, it is a rather sad product that you and your kind are defending. If that gives you the jollies, carry right on!
I'm just going on all the iPads I sell and the fact that we never bothered restocking Tabs because no-one ever asks for them.
Let me guess...Dick Smith or JBHIFI? It's not possible that you are in any kind of management level since you know zero about Australian consumer law so I put you as a young naive sales droid on the floor of a standard retailer.
Let me guess...Dick Smith or JBHIFI? It's not possible that you are in any kind of management level since you know zero about Australian consumer law so I put you as a young naive sales droid on the floor of a standard retailer.
Get off your high horse, and please go somewhere else. Your posts are really getting to be ridiculously offensive at this point, and you have completely derailed this thread. I can assure you that you are not piling up good karma around here. Folks remember.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Thank you for elevating the discussion.?
What exactly have you added of any value at all?
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Originally Posted by MarquisMark
That's the thing about design patents that always confuses me. Since you make a car analogy, I have a couple examples: A Chrysler 300m looks like Bentley, Hyundai Genesis looks a lot like a Mercedes Benz, Honda NSX looks like a Ferrari. I'd say those are just as similar as the iPad is to the Galaxy. Why don't we see a lot more of these suits?
IANAL so just trying to understand.
Originally Posted by sleepy3
DARN IT!!!!
STOP WITH THE FACTS ALREADY! We don't take kindly to those around here.
But i must say, to me the genesis says more Acura than mercedes. Also, see the f430 and mclaren mp4-12
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01771/McLaren-MP4-12C-1_1771192b.jpg
http://lasvegasnevadaexoticcarrentals.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ferrari-f430-las-vegas.jpg
Not to mention that pretty much every post-war car resembled each other.
But even more than that, I still can't tell the difference between two HDTV's, they all look alike (will be interesting to see how Apple can make a non-rectangular, sharp edged TV)
And is it me, or do Ferragamo wingtips look like a copy of Gucci wingtips?
If i was Ferragamo, I would sue the snot out of Gucci. I mean, Ferragamo cannot be the developer of the shoe world. They are all for innovation, but they can not allow competitors to steal their ideas.
Indeed. This is AppleInsider. Fact have no place here. (i kid... i kid).
But seriously you're right, every flat panel TV and PC monitor looks the same. I couldn't tell a Samsung from a Sony or ViewSonic. Why don't these companies sue each other? I can't even think of who was first (Sony?).
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
It was reversed in Australia.....
The injunction on the sale of Tabs was reversed, the case is still proceeding through the courts.
No-one really wants them much anyway.
wasn't jonathan ive just knighted? doesn't that mean anything?
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Originally Posted by hill60
The injunction on the sale of Tabs was reversed, the case is still proceeding through the courts.
No-one really wants them much anyway.
You know the sales figures for Australia or are you just making up things as usual?
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
You know the sales figures for Australia or are you just making up things as usual?
For a bunch of thoroughly fact-free posts -- which is all you've done in this thread (I haven't had the stomach to look up your past posts, but I think I have a fairly decent idea) -- you sure do throw your weight around, internet guy!
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
For a bunch of thoroughly fact-free posts -- which is all you've done in this thread (I haven't had the stomach to look up your past posts, but I think I have a fairly decent idea) -- you sure do throw your weight around, internet guy!
lol keep making my point for me champ!
At least partly because those companines don't have the design or technology patents on which to base such an action.
Whether or not Apple should have been granted some of their patents is a reasonable, but moot, question. The patents were granted and Apple would be negligent if they did not defend them, especially since it is pretty clear to many people (but not all - obviously) that Apple single-handedly created the current tablet market (and were ridiculed for it at the outset by much of the industry - which rather devalues the argument that it was obvious and would have happened anyway) and their hardware and software were subsequently largely copied when it became apparent that they were, after all, successful.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
lol keep making my point for me champ!
What "point"? The fact that Apple had to post as bond some pathetic, deeply-embarrassing-to-Samsung sum of money to compensate for lost sales of the Tab (in the US), in the event of a judgment against it? What makes you think that Australia could be any different, mate? Any remotely relevant evidence you can cite?
C'mon, at the end of the day, it is a rather sad product that you and your kind are defending. If that gives you the jollies, carry right on!
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
I don't know why don't f u c k off and go somewhere else instead if you're that bothered because you certainly aren't welcome here
Should I be more libellous towards that judge?
Will that get me a trip to the land of Lizzie and her family of the World's richest dole bludgers.
C'mon you said I'd get a trip to London to see the Queen because the British courts have that power over what I say on forums.
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
You can f u c k off to...
..Australia.
As the judge said to my ancestor in the 1770's.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
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I'm just going on all the iPads I sell and the fact that we never bothered restocking Tabs because no-one ever asks for them.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
You were saying?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/us-freedom-of-speech-reforms-target-australian-libel-laws/story-e6frg6nf-1225884947059
Oh, I dare some idiotic British judge to try.
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Originally Posted by hill60
I'm just going on all the iPads I sell and the fact that we never bothered restocking Tabs because no-one ever asks for them.
Don't confuse him with actual evidence.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Oh, I dare some idiotic British judge to try.
We got rid of appeals to the Privy Council as the highest ruling court a few decades ago.
British judges have no say about law in Australia, although I think you can still appeal to our Queen.
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Originally Posted by hill60
I'm just going on all the iPads I sell and the fact that we never bothered restocking Tabs because no-one ever asks for them.
Amazon best sellers disagree with you, I am afraid:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Don't confuse him with actual evidence.
Please....some retail sales droid saying he hasn't sold any means nothing.
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Originally Posted by hill60
I'm just going on all the iPads I sell and the fact that we never bothered restocking Tabs because no-one ever asks for them.
Let me guess...Dick Smith or JBHIFI? It's not possible that you are in any kind of management level since you know zero about Australian consumer law so I put you as a young naive sales droid on the floor of a standard retailer.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Let me guess...Dick Smith or JBHIFI? It's not possible that you are in any kind of management level since you know zero about Australian consumer law so I put you as a young naive sales droid on the floor of a standard retailer.
Get off your high horse, and please go somewhere else. Your posts are really getting to be ridiculously offensive at this point, and you have completely derailed this thread. I can assure you that you are not piling up good karma around here. Folks remember.