Remember this, you, I and everyone else on this AI forum will not meet the criteria to become juries for this trial, and you know exactly the reason why. WE ARE ALL BIASED AND PREJUDICIAL about things Apple. Apple will have to PROVE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT to the juries that their allegations are valid.
You're wrong, "beyond a reasonable doubt" only pertains to criminal cases not civil.
My only question at this point is when we're going to ban you.
Take a gander at the high-end Android phones. Some have even higher margins.
Fandroid arguments flip flop by day or by post depending on whether they are trying to argue that Apple is successful & not the underdog or Apple is losing to ground to (insert competitor here). Or whether Apple is an innovator and should be forced to license its patents, or Apple is not an innovator and just copies everyone. The only thing consistent is the assumption that Apple is somehow always bad and anyone who disagrees with that position is a sheep.
One point that I just cannot get past is that Apple is asking for basically all the profits from Samsung regarding these devices. So, how does Apple PROVE that for each sale Samsung made, Apple loses a sale at a 1:1 ratio?
Apple doesn't have to prove that. If they can prove infringement, the law permits them to be awarded all of the profit from the infringing product.
My only question at this point is when we're going to ban you.
Take a gander at the high-end Android phones. Some have even higher margins.
So you as the Global Moderator are already planning to ban this guy for disagreeing with Apple's stance in the lawsuit? So is that the fate of anyone that disagrees with you and the forum?
So you as the Global Moderator are already planning to ban this guy for disagreeing with Apple's stance in the lawsuit? So is that the fate of anyone that disagrees with you and the forum?
It points that despite Apple's allegation that Samsung's copying Iphone and thus hurting Apple's market and its bottom line, Apple sales still continue to break records, and Iphone continue to enjoy one of the most ludicrous profit margin ...
i don't keep track of Apple sales figures because the precise numbers do not and will never interest me. i do know, however, that Apple will make some profit from me when i purchase the next iPhone; my 3GS is getting old
anyways, i'm far more keen to know why Apple objected to the release of sales data since they already do so, publicly, a few times every year. if the sales data matches, i can't see the reason for Apple lawyers' objection
Like we DON'T know the majority of iphone sales are the older 3GS and iphone 4 models. Its the same as Android, the lower cost ones make the most money.
Don't know why Apple thinks people do not already know this. AND. Why would it be a big deal?
In other words, why do they care? We don't. And i don't see why a jury would either.
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; } i'd be happy if i could just download it to my imac.
Apple has stated on the record that they do not use market research, which has now been proven to be untrue (a lie). They do use market research and now it has been brought out and will be used against them.
"Market research in the creation of a product" I think were the exact words, this is not the same as "Do not use market research".
Back to the drawing board with your foolish tripe.
In fact, he'll most likely delete this post and ban me. How this guy became a Moderator is beyond me. He's single handedly turning this site into a joke.
It's been over 3 hours.
So when is this deletion and ban over your whiny, pointless post going to happen?
Can you also entertain us on which high-end android phones actually have a higher margin than the soon to be obsolete Iphone 4S? The Iphone 4S costs about 200 bucks to make, according to some estimates, and you can add probably 50 bucks for logistics, advertisement, etc, so let's say the actual cost of Iphone 4S is USD 250. Iphone 4S is being sold on average of about USD 650 [previous month's price before the USD 50 price cut]. You can calculate and guesstimate how much Apple makes for each Iphone 4S they sold. It's mind boggling. I don't think anything in the world can come close to this per device profit margin, hovering around 50+%. The fact that the market is letting this kind of profit margin continue for so long would mean that something is not quite right with Apple profit equation. Sooner or later, people will want parts of it, be that the suppliers, the partners or even the end-users. This type of profit margin is not sustainable.
Well apart from Samsung not releasing this information, they have priced the Samsung Galaxy S 3 at exactly the same outright price points as iPhones.
Hey do you think Samsung charges themselves more for the components they make and also sell to other companies such as Apple?
I hope this data becomes available and wasn't "deleted after two weeks".
Don't even bother with Tallest Skil. His posts can be as bad as a 16 year old childs. He'll use vulgar language in a post, make fun of members and even threaten to ban them, if they don't agree with him.
Sorry you feel that way. In that I'm sorry that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
In fact, he'll most likely delete this post and ban me.
Yep. I'm certainly known for doing that. In fact, let me just leave that post up and you un-banned because of how you just "called me out" there.
Originally Posted by hill60
It's been over 3 hours.
So when is this deletion and ban over your whiny, pointless post going to happen?
Hey, he wants to live in fear, let him. I'll never do it, but if it makes him feel better…
Then why make a statement like that saying you were going to ban him?
Because it causes consternation for the intellectually challenged as they attempt to discern the magnitude of this threat to their very existence. And fandroids have no concept of humour.
Because it causes consternation for the intellectually challenged as they attempt to discern the magnitude of this threat to their very existence. And fandroids have no concept of humour.
Cheers
More along the lines of just being a power hungry jerk who likes to flaunt his power and then laugh at people who react to his threats.
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You're wrong, "beyond a reasonable doubt" only pertains to criminal cases not civil.
Fandroid arguments flip flop by day or by post depending on whether they are trying to argue that Apple is successful & not the underdog or Apple is losing to ground to (insert competitor here). Or whether Apple is an innovator and should be forced to license its patents, or Apple is not an innovator and just copies everyone. The only thing consistent is the assumption that Apple is somehow always bad and anyone who disagrees with that position is a sheep.
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Originally Posted by lamewing
One point that I just cannot get past is that Apple is asking for basically all the profits from Samsung regarding these devices. So, how does Apple PROVE that for each sale Samsung made, Apple loses a sale at a 1:1 ratio?
Apple doesn't have to prove that. If they can prove infringement, the law permits them to be awarded all of the profit from the infringing product.
Originally Posted by chabig
If they can prove infringement, the law permits them to be awarded all of the profit from the infringing product.
Crap, so like $100, then.
Originally Posted by geekdad
So you as the Global Moderator are already planning to ban this guy for disagreeing with Apple's stance in the lawsuit? So is that the fate of anyone that disagrees with you and the forum?
Nope. And nope.
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Originally Posted by mcrs
It points that despite Apple's allegation that Samsung's copying Iphone and thus hurting Apple's market and its bottom line, Apple sales still continue to break records, and Iphone continue to enjoy one of the most ludicrous profit margin ...
i don't keep track of Apple sales figures because the precise numbers do not and will never interest me. i do know, however, that Apple will make some profit from me when i purchase the next iPhone; my 3GS is getting old
anyways, i'm far more keen to know why Apple objected to the release of sales data since they already do so, publicly, a few times every year. if the sales data matches, i can't see the reason for Apple lawyers' objection
Like we DON'T know the majority of iphone sales are the older 3GS and iphone 4 models. Its the same as Android, the lower cost ones make the most money.
Don't know why Apple thinks people do not already know this. AND. Why would it be a big deal?
In other words, why do they care? We don't. And i don't see why a jury would either.
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i'd be happy if i could just download it to my imac.
Originally Posted by geekdad
Then why make a statement like that saying you were going to ban him?
… 'Nope' in that that is not why he'd be banned.
I will attest to that, Tallest and I have disagreed many times and I'm still here.
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Originally Posted by RaptorOO7
Apple has stated on the record that they do not use market research, which has now been proven to be untrue (a lie). They do use market research and now it has been brought out and will be used against them.
"Market research in the creation of a product" I think were the exact words, this is not the same as "Do not use market research".
Back to the drawing board with your foolish tripe.
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Originally Posted by Mac.World
In fact, he'll most likely delete this post and ban me. How this guy became a Moderator is beyond me. He's single handedly turning this site into a joke.
It's been over 3 hours.
So when is this deletion and ban over your whiny, pointless post going to happen?
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Originally Posted by mcrs
Can you also entertain us on which high-end android phones actually have a higher margin than the soon to be obsolete Iphone 4S? The Iphone 4S costs about 200 bucks to make, according to some estimates, and you can add probably 50 bucks for logistics, advertisement, etc, so let's say the actual cost of Iphone 4S is USD 250. Iphone 4S is being sold on average of about USD 650 [previous month's price before the USD 50 price cut]. You can calculate and guesstimate how much Apple makes for each Iphone 4S they sold. It's mind boggling. I don't think anything in the world can come close to this per device profit margin, hovering around 50+%. The fact that the market is letting this kind of profit margin continue for so long would mean that something is not quite right with Apple profit equation. Sooner or later, people will want parts of it, be that the suppliers, the partners or even the end-users. This type of profit margin is not sustainable.
Well apart from Samsung not releasing this information, they have priced the Samsung Galaxy S 3 at exactly the same outright price points as iPhones.
Hey do you think Samsung charges themselves more for the components they make and also sell to other companies such as Apple?
I hope this data becomes available and wasn't "deleted after two weeks".
Originally Posted by Mac.World
Don't even bother with Tallest Skil. His posts can be as bad as a 16 year old childs. He'll use vulgar language in a post, make fun of members and even threaten to ban them, if they don't agree with him.
Sorry you feel that way. In that I'm sorry that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
In fact, he'll most likely delete this post and ban me.
Yep. I'm certainly known for doing that. In fact, let me just leave that post up and you un-banned because of how you just "called me out" there.
Originally Posted by hill60
It's been over 3 hours.
So when is this deletion and ban over your whiny, pointless post going to happen?
Hey, he wants to live in fear, let him. I'll never do it, but if it makes him feel better…
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Originally Posted by geekdad
Then why make a statement like that saying you were going to ban him?
Because it causes consternation for the intellectually challenged as they attempt to discern the magnitude of this threat to their very existence. And fandroids have no concept of humour.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by minicapt
Because it causes consternation for the intellectually challenged as they attempt to discern the magnitude of this threat to their very existence. And fandroids have no concept of humour.
Cheers
More along the lines of just being a power hungry jerk who likes to flaunt his power and then laugh at people who react to his threats.
Originally Posted by lamewing
More along the lines of just being a power hungry jerk who likes to flaunt his power and then laugh at people who react to his threats.
"Lawl." is about all I have to say to that.
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Originally Posted by punkndrublic
"google" it
Please dont ever take the LSAT.