It is amazing the level of misinformation or total lack of information that has reached the public about this trial. Samsung's ad blitz about it being about rectangles and such had a huge impact. Easy to understand and holding a kernel of truth. Forget the mountain of other evidence and issues, look at this rectangle. People should really look further than the propaganda from either company. there was a LOT of information that came out in the trial. Read it, and if you still believe Samsung did not copy Apple, well, I don't know if any facts would sway you on anything. Amazing...
This apple-Samsung thing is shaping up to be a problem between USA and south Korea. There is already talk of Apple making this an issue in regards to USA-south Korea FTA. If this is the case korea and Samsung will both throw in the towel. No country in the world is gonna mess with USA.
I love how Samsung claim they 'Innovate, not litigate', now they're preparing litigation over something which they don't even know exactly what they're litigating for
Well, at least Samsung researched and developed LTE patents in house, unlike Apple who bough most.
So polls about stated product desirability are good, but studies of things people actually write on their own about the products when away from the pollsters is "sociopathic"?
Never said anything about polls. Treating Facebook, et. al., specifically the comments thereon, as a valid news source is disturbing.
I didn't realise Samsung is the inventor of 4G LTE and that they have the exclusive rights in making use of the network...
There is no one company or single individual who owns all LTE patents. The point here is that Samsung is one of the major LTE patent holders (10+% of all LTE patents, in fact) - you can't swing a dead cat without hitting Samsung's LTE patents. The same is probably now true for Apple - which I believe is among the top 10 LTE patent holders.
the south koreans will cheat, lie, manipulate and bribe their way for a cheap buck.
The most recent assault by the koreans is the international entertainment and media industry (Hallyu), which is a propaganda push by the korean government to promote their copycat culture internationally. "The Presidential Council on Nation Branding" and "Voluntary Agency Network of Korea" (VANK) spend over $150 million dollars a year promoting and hyping the korean brand to the world.
Think the above paragraph is paranoid speculation? have a look at the their recent media mind washing propaganda they have done to promote kpoop artist PSY. A fat nobody south korean looser who mysteriously has got 120+million views counts in under a month.
This is a joint action of pathetic south korean scum “YG Entertainment, the Presidential Council on Nation Branding and Voluntary Agency Network of Korea VANK
who use zombie" korean starcraft” and Warcraft server farms to get view counts up by repetitively querying their artist videos on youtube, this is common procedure in korea. The korean governments propaganda outlets (allkpop.com, soompi.com) and paid off media outlets will “claim” that this is a new viral craze is a huge hit and people around the world love korean culture and music because of trickery like this. koreans do tricks like this to artificially pimp their non-existent culture to westerners.
Don’t you ever wonder why various unknown south korean videos get 50 million views in 1 week?
Be smart and DO not fall for the pathetic korean governments social engineering tricks.
I hate EVERYTHING korean because they steal copy and claim it as their own.
i am talking BS? live in the states? Go to your local sushi bar or Japanese restaurant. In almost all instances they are not owned by Japanese-Americans but korean-Americans. the koreans know that their native cuisine is disgusting poison (kimchi and dog meat anyone?) and people pay more for Quality Japanese cuisine. koreans "pretend" to be Japanese and sell inferior food with the high price.
That tactic is very similar to what samsung did to Apple. Copy the superior leader, pretend to be the superior leader, sell inferior products and claim the profits!
Koreans will do any trick to scam money out of people.
I hate koreans who do this and suggest everyone should BOYCOTT KOREAN products NOW
CARS-kia hyundai, licensed GDI direct injection engine technology from Mitsubishi of Japan back in 1999, claims it as their own invention. Copies honda, one example is hyundais logo (H logo is ripped of from hondas H). copy and pretend, rinse and repeat....
TECHNOLOGY-easy: samscum- rips off and violates apples patents, got caught resulting in multi Bilion dollar fine.
MUSIC-kara-snsd. kpop. fake no talent losers who bleach their face, get tons of face surgery and dye their hair blonde to look white, plagiarises US artists
BOYCOTT THE FOLLOWING KOREAN PRODUCTS
SAMSUNG
LG
Hyundai
Kumho/Hankook Tires
kia
Hynix
Hanjin
ALL korean propaganda outlets such as YG Entertainment and S.M. Entertainment
IT is perfectly ok buy apple products that have got some korean components such as memory, SSD and displays because samsung,LG,hynix make little profit on their OEM and supplier division. Koreans make make the gains on the branded devices like TVs, cars and cellphones which have huge profit margins.
HIT south korea HARD AND BOYCOTT SOUTH KOREAN COMPANIES!
Samsung has every right to sue. That's life people.
what gives them the right to sue someone for using parts where the manufacturer already paid to license the patents? Didn't someone get a suit against Apple tossed out not to long ago for this very reason?
What I have a problem with is the comment, "Worse, for Apple, the reaction against the brand is coming from its own fan base." As if it is a high bar to join a discussion group on Facebook.
As the initial poster wrote, it is over-reaction to watch a bunch of fandroids firebomb a Facebook page and read anything into it. As a matter of fact, where is the research to prove that Samsung themselves haven't bought into the social marketing concepts put forward by Shaughnessy and simply had a marketing firm post thousands of negative posts?
So you believe AI's practice of using polls as sources is equally "disturbing"?
Or is it only disturbing when the results are inconvenient for whatever niche demographic AI hopes to deliver to its advertisers?
Can't wait for Forbes to start using the AppleInsider forums as one of their paid measurement metrics. Shaughnessy went into the article with a bias, and surprise, a marketing metric company managed to confirm his beliefs. That is cogent analysis ...
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Originally Posted by 69ergoo
This apple-Samsung thing is shaping up to be a problem between USA and south Korea. There is already talk of Apple making this an issue in regards to USA-south Korea FTA. If this is the case korea and Samsung will both throw in the towel. No country in the world is gonna mess with USA.
China, Iran, North Korea, Russia ... etc.
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Originally Posted by geoadm
I love how Samsung claim they 'Innovate, not litigate', now they're preparing litigation over something which they don't even know exactly what they're litigating for
Well, at least Samsung researched and developed LTE patents in house, unlike Apple who bough most.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
So polls about stated product desirability are good, but studies of things people actually write on their own about the products when away from the pollsters is "sociopathic"?
Never said anything about polls. Treating Facebook, et. al., specifically the comments thereon, as a valid news source is disturbing.
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Originally Posted by palegolas
I didn't realise Samsung is the inventor of 4G LTE and that they have the exclusive rights in making use of the network...
There is no one company or single individual who owns all LTE patents. The point here is that Samsung is one of the major LTE patent holders (10+% of all LTE patents, in fact) - you can't swing a dead cat without hitting Samsung's LTE patents. The same is probably now true for Apple - which I believe is among the top 10 LTE patent holders.
the south koreans will cheat, lie, manipulate and bribe their way for a cheap buck.
The most recent assault by the koreans is the international entertainment and media industry (Hallyu), which is a propaganda push by the korean government to promote their copycat culture internationally. "The Presidential Council on Nation Branding" and "Voluntary Agency Network of Korea" (VANK) spend over $150 million dollars a year promoting and hyping the korean brand to the world.
Think the above paragraph is paranoid speculation? have a look at the their recent media mind washing propaganda they have done to promote kpoop artist PSY. A fat nobody south korean looser who mysteriously has got 120+million views counts in under a month.
This is a joint action of pathetic south korean scum “YG Entertainment, the Presidential Council on Nation Branding and Voluntary Agency Network of Korea VANK
who use zombie" korean starcraft” and Warcraft server farms to get view counts up by repetitively querying their artist videos on youtube, this is common procedure in korea. The korean governments propaganda outlets (allkpop.com, soompi.com) and paid off media outlets will “claim” that this is a new viral craze is a huge hit and people around the world love korean culture and music because of trickery like this. koreans do tricks like this to artificially pimp their non-existent culture to westerners.
Don’t you ever wonder why various unknown south korean videos get 50 million views in 1 week?
Be smart and DO not fall for the pathetic korean governments social engineering tricks.
I hate EVERYTHING korean because they steal copy and claim it as their own.
i am talking BS? live in the states? Go to your local sushi bar or Japanese restaurant. In almost all instances they are not owned by Japanese-Americans but korean-Americans. the koreans know that their native cuisine is disgusting poison (kimchi and dog meat anyone?) and people pay more for Quality Japanese cuisine. koreans "pretend" to be Japanese and sell inferior food with the high price.
That tactic is very similar to what samsung did to Apple. Copy the superior leader, pretend to be the superior leader, sell inferior products and claim the profits!
Koreans will do any trick to scam money out of people.
I hate koreans who do this and suggest everyone should BOYCOTT KOREAN products NOW
CARS-kia hyundai, licensed GDI direct injection engine technology from Mitsubishi of Japan back in 1999, claims it as their own invention. Copies honda, one example is hyundais logo (H logo is ripped of from hondas H). copy and pretend, rinse and repeat....
kia forte- total rip off of the legendary Honda Civic. http://montrealracing.com/images/0410kia.jpg
TECHNOLOGY-easy: samscum- rips off and violates apples patents, got caught resulting in multi Bilion dollar fine.
MUSIC-kara-snsd. kpop. fake no talent losers who bleach their face, get tons of face surgery and dye their hair blonde to look white, plagiarises US artists
BOYCOTT THE FOLLOWING KOREAN PRODUCTS
SAMSUNG
LG
Hyundai
Kumho/Hankook Tires
kia
Hynix
Hanjin
ALL korean propaganda outlets such as YG Entertainment and S.M. Entertainment
IT is perfectly ok buy apple products that have got some korean components such as memory, SSD and displays because samsung,LG,hynix make little profit on their OEM and supplier division. Koreans make make the gains on the branded devices like TVs, cars and cellphones which have huge profit margins.
HIT south korea HARD AND BOYCOTT SOUTH KOREAN COMPANIES!
Samsung has every right to sue. That's life people.
Originally Posted by yvo84
Samsung has every right to sue. That's life people.
I suppose that's correct. They have the right to waste their billions of dollars and get their patents invalidated or called FRAND, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by yvo84
Samsung has every right to sue. That's life people.
what gives them the right to sue someone for using parts where the manufacturer already paid to license the patents? Didn't someone get a suit against Apple tossed out not to long ago for this very reason?
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No, but the site you moderate for does, rather frequently:
And? They can be astroturfed just as easily as comment sections.
You hate this place and everything we do here. You've stated as much in the past. Why do you bother coming back?
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What I have a problem with is the comment, "Worse, for Apple, the reaction against the brand is coming from its own fan base." As if it is a high bar to join a discussion group on Facebook.
As the initial poster wrote, it is over-reaction to watch a bunch of fandroids firebomb a Facebook page and read anything into it. As a matter of fact, where is the research to prove that Samsung themselves haven't bought into the social marketing concepts put forward by Shaughnessy and simply had a marketing firm post thousands of negative posts?
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
So you believe AI's practice of using polls as sources is equally "disturbing"?
Or is it only disturbing when the results are inconvenient for whatever niche demographic AI hopes to deliver to its advertisers?
Can't wait for Forbes to start using the AppleInsider forums as one of their paid measurement metrics. Shaughnessy went into the article with a bias, and surprise, a marketing metric company managed to confirm his beliefs. That is cogent analysis ...
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
I don't hate this place.
Originally Posted by MacRulez
Classy as always, this dank alley...
I guess when trolls always ignore the truth, it's easy for them to get lost in their lies.
Or maybe you enjoy dank alleys. To each his own.
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Originally Posted by palegolas
I didn't realise Samsung is the inventor of 4G LTE and that they have the exclusive rights in making use of the network...
You are the type that has no clue of how patents work and why Apple "won" the patent fight: through smokes and screens.