Almost all the patents "infringed" by Samsung are nonsense, that patents never had to be allowed in the first place.
Has Apple patented the white color already??
Reclaiming that amount is nonsense either, as they claim that all Samsung's phones sold are iPhone "lost" sales.
I have a Galaxy SII and I knew exactly what I was buying, didn't want to be in the Apple's "Everybody needs the same. I tell you what you can install and how to use it" cage.
Apple has also infringed many patents from others.
All this patent wars are nonsense.
Apple tries to win the phone battle in the courts, because they cannot win it on the market.
Apple is one company with only one phone model, against many companies with many phone models.
Apple has already lost the phone battle.
They should have licensed iOS some years ago.
I'm not anti-Apple (I own several computers and gadgets), and pro-nothing, but this is how I see it.
Seriously, Samsung just doesn't seem to get it, and they're still at it. Imagine if they had put their resources into actually developing their product instead of blatantly copying Apple. When Apple introduced the iPhone Steve Jobs stood right there on stage and said as plain as day that they'd defend their product.
Now, not only does Samsung face potentially paying out 3 Billion, but they are losing Apple's business too. And the worst part of it for Sammy is that, although Apple won this huge case and is getting a ridiculous amount of money from it, Samsung has created a self-image of being a school yard bully picking on the smart kid everyone likes because he's jealous, and is getting just what he deserves. It'll be interesting what Koh decides on this, I'm sure she'll at the very least old Samsung to the 1.05 billion. She might also grant Apple's request, or at least part of it (if possible) as a consequence for Samsung's media release of documents no allowed during the trial.
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country. That isn't to say Samsung doesn't copy; it does, just in the same way Apple copies.
I don't think Samsung is going to lose Apple's business either, Apple's share of Samsung Electronic's annual sales went up significantly since Apple first filed suits against Samsung - from $7B in 2011 to $12B in 2012.
And no, I don't think most ppl see Samsung as a school yard bully. It's the other way around - Samsung is largely seen as an underdog, while Apple more like the big bro in Apple's 1984 TV commercial.
I'm pretty sure judge Koh will treble the damage, especially considering her lopsided rulings against Samsung so far. The ruling however will be overturned and the damage whittled down to some insignificant amount in the Federal Court of Appeal, but that's a couple of years away.
Why would they do that? They already have the equivalent of Bell Labs working for them.
Really? Apple is creating things like wifi, mobile telephony, transistors, lasers, satellites, TCP/IP, solar cells, digital computer, UNIX...... (to name just a few that come to mind offhand)?
Whether it will be overturned in the Federal Circuit or not is yet to be determined. It's interesting that you are so confident.
I would guess (though I'm not making any sweeping predictions here) that the best Samsung can hope for is either a reduction in damages, or a remand on particular issues at trial. But who knows?
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country.
So, why is your employer good at R&D and innovation, but not marketing? They can't attract and retain good talent, and/or can't hire good ad agencies? Really?
Or, as usual, are you simply making an argument of convenience like you people always do? (That's a rhetorical question).
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country. That isn't to say Samsung doesn't copy; it does, just in the same way Apple copies.
I don't think Samsung is going to lose Apple's business either, Apple's share of Samsung Electronic's annual sales went up significantly since Apple first filed suits against Samsung - from $7B in 2011 to $12B in 2012.
And no, I don't think most ppl see Samsung as a school yard bully. It's the other way around - Samsung is largely seen as an underdog, while Apple more like the big bro in Apple's 1984 TV commercial.
I'm pretty sure judge Koh will treble the damage, especially considering her lopsided rulings against Samsung so far. The ruling however will be overturned and the damage whittled down to some insignificant amount in the Federal Court of Appeal, but that's a couple of years away.
do you know why a 600hp ferrari is a marvel and an 1000hp truck isn't? you can apply the same with apple vs samsung R&D and number of patents granted.
if both of them made cars, samsung's patents would define the basics of it (basics of differential, even the number of wheels..etc) but apple's patents would define the difference between the ugliness that is most of BMW cars and the piece of art and engineering that is a class S 65 amg.
well.. i know my post won't have any effect, because you are one of those lifeless trolls that live in frustration because apple is the only good part of the tech world since 1998, and they can (by themselves) fight, win the whole bad part of the industry, of witch samsung (that corrupt company) is part of.
Thanks for giving me a chance to test out my new system!
Originally Posted by pirarre
Apple just doesn't like competition...especially when it's a chance the competition can beat you. I don't see Coca Cola suing Pepsi...smh.
This is horrible.
What they're trying to do is demolish Samsung.Because Samsung is the leading manufacturer for Android.
It's strange because when the first iPhone came out and the first Android device, all these patents and stuff didn't matter.
But now that Android than developed more and continues to mature and devices are coming out more powerful than ever and doing things the iPhone doesn't… When talking about features, Apple give it's customers little by little...just enough to keep them interested. Then when the next iphone comes out they'll give a little more.It's like they string people along and people bite.
Thanks for that, and you helped to fill in a few holes, actually. Now go away forever if you're going to keep lying.
Yeah! I like good responses. You fanboys are really funny.
You don't like to hear nothing bad against your beloved Apple!!
You think Apple is never wrong? Then you are wrong.
That was the only word needed to describe your comments. A quick review of your comments around here confirm the comment. Care to comment on the comments?
Three billion sounds about right, for starters! That's a significant amount of money, even for a large company like Samsung.
And every Fandroid who has ever made an ignorant and retarded post on the internet should be ordered to pay 25 cents, which represents a significant percentage of the average Fandroid's net worth.
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There is a problem when people with a single-digid IQ start to post.
And I don't mean you pedromartins.
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Originally Posted by criscoso
Almost all the patents "infringed" by Samsung are nonsense, that patents never had to be allowed in the first place.
Has Apple patented the white color already??
Reclaiming that amount is nonsense either, as they claim that all Samsung's phones sold are iPhone "lost" sales.
I have a Galaxy SII and I knew exactly what I was buying, didn't want to be in the Apple's "Everybody needs the same. I tell you what you can install and how to use it" cage.
Apple has also infringed many patents from others.
All this patent wars are nonsense.
Apple tries to win the phone battle in the courts, because they cannot win it on the market.
Apple is one company with only one phone model, against many companies with many phone models.
Apple has already lost the phone battle.
They should have licensed iOS some years ago.
I'm not anti-Apple (I own several computers and gadgets), and pro-nothing, but this is how I see it.
troll
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Originally Posted by kaioslider
Seriously, Samsung just doesn't seem to get it, and they're still at it. Imagine if they had put their resources into actually developing their product instead of blatantly copying Apple. When Apple introduced the iPhone Steve Jobs stood right there on stage and said as plain as day that they'd defend their product.
Now, not only does Samsung face potentially paying out 3 Billion, but they are losing Apple's business too. And the worst part of it for Sammy is that, although Apple won this huge case and is getting a ridiculous amount of money from it, Samsung has created a self-image of being a school yard bully picking on the smart kid everyone likes because he's jealous, and is getting just what he deserves. It'll be interesting what Koh decides on this, I'm sure she'll at the very least old Samsung to the 1.05 billion. She might also grant Apple's request, or at least part of it (if possible) as a consequence for Samsung's media release of documents no allowed during the trial.
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country. That isn't to say Samsung doesn't copy; it does, just in the same way Apple copies.
I don't think Samsung is going to lose Apple's business either, Apple's share of Samsung Electronic's annual sales went up significantly since Apple first filed suits against Samsung - from $7B in 2011 to $12B in 2012.
And no, I don't think most ppl see Samsung as a school yard bully. It's the other way around - Samsung is largely seen as an underdog, while Apple more like the big bro in Apple's 1984 TV commercial.
I'm pretty sure judge Koh will treble the damage, especially considering her lopsided rulings against Samsung so far. The ruling however will be overturned and the damage whittled down to some insignificant amount in the Federal Court of Appeal, but that's a couple of years away.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Why would they do that? They already have the equivalent of Bell Labs working for them.
Really? Apple is creating things like wifi, mobile telephony, transistors, lasers, satellites, TCP/IP, solar cells, digital computer, UNIX...... (to name just a few that come to mind offhand)?
Any evidence of this?
Whether it will be overturned in the Federal Circuit or not is yet to be determined. It's interesting that you are so confident.
I would guess (though I'm not making any sweeping predictions here) that the best Samsung can hope for is either a reduction in damages, or a remand on particular issues at trial. But who knows?
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Originally Posted by icoco3
troll
Yeah! I like good responses. You fanboys are really funny.
You don't like to hear nothing bad against your beloved Apple!!
You think Apple is never wrong? Then you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
So why is it that you're so smart and still incapable of creating a rational argument?
Don't worry if you don't understand it in the first place.
You can reread all the times you want, is free.
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country.
So, why is your employer good at R&D and innovation, but not marketing? They can't attract and retain good talent, and/or can't hire good ad agencies? Really?
Or, as usual, are you simply making an argument of convenience like you people always do? (That's a rhetorical question).
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
There is a problem when people with a single-digid IQ start to post.
And I don't mean you pedromartins.
Ho ho ho, subtle.
You should have an IQ below 0.
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
Well, not sure if that's the case. Samsung already spends far more than Apple on R&D and is #2 in patents granted in the US (or worldwide). It's just that Samsung doesn't have that kind of "marketing" clout that Apple yields in this country. That isn't to say Samsung doesn't copy; it does, just in the same way Apple copies.
I don't think Samsung is going to lose Apple's business either, Apple's share of Samsung Electronic's annual sales went up significantly since Apple first filed suits against Samsung - from $7B in 2011 to $12B in 2012.
And no, I don't think most ppl see Samsung as a school yard bully. It's the other way around - Samsung is largely seen as an underdog, while Apple more like the big bro in Apple's 1984 TV commercial.
I'm pretty sure judge Koh will treble the damage, especially considering her lopsided rulings against Samsung so far. The ruling however will be overturned and the damage whittled down to some insignificant amount in the Federal Court of Appeal, but that's a couple of years away.
do you know why a 600hp ferrari is a marvel and an 1000hp truck isn't? you can apply the same with apple vs samsung R&D and number of patents granted.
if both of them made cars, samsung's patents would define the basics of it (basics of differential, even the number of wheels..etc) but apple's patents would define the difference between the ugliness that is most of BMW cars and the piece of art and engineering that is a class S 65 amg.
well.. i know my post won't have any effect, because you are one of those lifeless trolls that live in frustration because apple is the only good part of the tech world since 1998, and they can (by themselves) fight, win the whole bad part of the industry, of witch samsung (that corrupt company) is part of.
Thanks for giving me a chance to test out my new system!
Originally Posted by pirarre
Apple just doesn't like competition...especially when it's a chance the competition can beat you. I don't see Coca Cola suing Pepsi...smh.
This is horrible.
What they're trying to do is demolish Samsung.Because Samsung is the leading manufacturer for Android.
It's strange because when the first iPhone came out and the first Android device, all these patents and stuff didn't matter.
But now that Android than developed more and continues to mature and devices are coming out more powerful than ever and doing things the iPhone doesn't… When talking about features, Apple give it's customers little by little...just enough to keep them interested. Then when the next iphone comes out they'll give a little more.It's like they string people along and people bite.
Thanks for that, and you helped to fill in a few holes, actually. Now go away forever if you're going to keep lying.
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Originally Posted by criscoso
Yeah! I like good responses. You fanboys are really funny.
You don't like to hear nothing bad against your beloved Apple!!
You think Apple is never wrong? Then you are wrong.
Clearly, an IQ = 148 doesn't seem to buy the ability to construct an argument.
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Originally Posted by Neo42
Feels like Apple trying to set the stage for an industry wide antitrust lawsuit. Playing with fire, IMHO
Know your subject before making dumb statements. Apple has less than 20 percent of the smartphone market so antitrust lawsuit isn't possible.
Reading a stupid comment 1,000 times won't make it smart.
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Originally Posted by criscoso
Well, history will tell.
Big COs have their time, and then fall.
Ask IBM or Microsoft.
IBMs back on the rise mainly because they shed its PC business.
Microsoft became stale only focusing on Windows/Office. They failed to develop new product lines.
Apple has reinvented smart phones, mp3 players, tablets. It did not rest on its laurels with the Mac.
As you say history will tell, but that can be said about Sammy, Google, and Android itself.
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Originally Posted by criscoso
Yeah! I like good responses. You fanboys are really funny.
You don't like to hear nothing bad against your beloved Apple!!
You think Apple is never wrong? Then you are wrong.
That was the only word needed to describe your comments. A quick review of your comments around here confirm the comment. Care to comment on the comments?
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Originally Posted by jungmark
IBMs back on the rise mainly because they shed its PC business.
Microsoft became stale only focusing on Windows/Office. They failed to develop new product lines.
Apple has reinvented smart phones, mp3 players, tablets. It did not rest on its laurels with the Mac.
As you say history will tell, but that can be said about Sammy, Google, and Android itself.
Totally agree with IBM and MS.
Well, I wouldn't say Google hasn't innovate, and I'm not talking only about phones here.
You have checked Android? There are many things innovative, and some copied by Apple, as I can read in some post.
But, hey!, I you like the iPhone, it's ok, but I don't, and not because of its design or interface, but for the lack of freedom.
What I don't know is if Apple will innovate again without Steve Jobs, I'm sorry but he was the heart of Apple.
He knew when something was great or not, many others rejected the iPod idea, not originally from Apple btw.
Three billion sounds about right, for starters! That's a significant amount of money, even for a large company like Samsung.
And every Fandroid who has ever made an ignorant and retarded post on the internet should be ordered to pay 25 cents, which represents a significant percentage of the average Fandroid's net worth.
Can't be his IQ is 148
Awesome idea! Pure research... far reaching and not limited to Apple's core business... but technology in general. I like it. I miss Bell Labs.