Google claim 1,000,000 + activations per day for android, which i doubt very much.
Do hand-me-down iPhones count as a new activation ?
I guess the 1 million android activations could be a result of people handing their non-updatable crap phones to goats.
I just had to put in the goat reference as there was a news item from US about a goat being taken from a zoo, its toe nails painted pink and then returned.
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;">40% own an iPhone.</li>
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<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;">Of the 20% of students who didn't own a tablet, but plan to buy one in the next 6 months, 74% want an iPad.</li>
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Where do you see a statistics problem here?
I see several statistics problems:
1. Representativeness of the sample. They do not define how the sample was obtained, so we have no way of knowing if it is representative of the population as a whole.
2. No independent verification. They are relying solely on the teen's word about what they have. Since the iPhone is the 'cool' phone, it's easy to say that you have an iPhone even if your parents bought you a POS Android phone.
3. Lack of data. We have no access to the raw data so cannot verify any of the above.
1. Representativeness of the sample. They do not define how the sample was obtained, so we have no way of knowing if it is representative of the population as a whole.
2. No independent verification. They are relying solely on the teen's word about what they have. Since the iPhone is the 'cool' phone, it's easy to say that you have an iPhone even if your parents bought you a POS Android phone.
3. Lack of data. We have no access to the raw data so cannot verify any of the above.
1. I'm sure they defined the sampling method, but it's not a free report. If you want to find out more, you have to pay.
2. Yeah, that's what a "survey" is. We use them in medical research as well. It's not perfect data, but it is unbiased.
3. Nobody who does expensive surveys is going to give you the raw data, so your complaint about this survey is odd. Do you complain that Nielsen doesn't give you their raw data?
I agree with the survey, but i honestly think that the numbers should be higher. I am a Junior in high school, and 90% of my friends have iPhones, and just about 90% of the kids in my school have one, if not they are getting one in the next 6 months, especially with Christmas being right around the corner.
This is probably true to affluent areas but I'm sure the figures for, say, inner-city Detroit are very different.
That's the problem with surveys like this - it's really difficult to get an accurate picture for an entire nation. This appears to be an online survey which creates a biased sample group by its very nature.
1. I'm sure they defined the sampling method, but it's not a free report. If you want to find out more, you have to pay.
2. Yeah, that's what a "survey" is. We use them in medical research as well. It's not perfect data, but it is unbiased.
3. Nobody who does expensive surveys is going to give you the raw data, so your complaint about this survey is odd. Do you complain that Nielsen doesn't give you their raw data?
And, yet, none of your comments refutes what I said. Without knowing more details than have been provided, there is no way of knowing whether these numbers have any validity.
If they collected the numbers by sampling teens walking out of an Apple store with a package in their hands, the result would be very different than if they sampled random homeless teenagers in Brooklyn.
Similarly, it's a survey asking teens (who are very subject to peer pressure) which device they own.
Anyone who accepts these figures at face value is fooling themselves. The numbers could be legitimate, but without knowing more, it would be foolish to assume that.
And, yet, none of your comments refutes what I said. Without knowing more details than have been provided, there is no way of knowing whether these numbers have any validity.
If they collected the numbers by sampling teens walking out of an Apple store with a package in their hands, the result would be very different than if they sampled random homeless teenagers in Brooklyn.
Similarly, it's a survey asking teens (who are very subject to peer pressure) which device they own.
Anyone who accepts these figures at face value is fooling themselves. The numbers could be legitimate, but without knowing more, it would be foolish to assume that.
Then pay up and find out if it's so important to you. I don't care enough.
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Google claim 1,000,000 + activations per day for android, which i doubt very much.
Do hand-me-down iPhones count as a new activation ?
I guess the 1 million android activations could be a result of people handing their non-updatable crap phones to goats.
I just had to put in the goat reference as there was a news item from US about a goat being taken from a zoo, its toe nails painted pink and then returned.
I died laughing reading the article.
I see several statistics problems:
1. Representativeness of the sample. They do not define how the sample was obtained, so we have no way of knowing if it is representative of the population as a whole.
2. No independent verification. They are relying solely on the teen's word about what they have. Since the iPhone is the 'cool' phone, it's easy to say that you have an iPhone even if your parents bought you a POS Android phone.
3. Lack of data. We have no access to the raw data so cannot verify any of the above.
So if 51% of teens bought an iPad and 49% of them were pregnant, you'd be happy?
Shouldn't you be looking for a couple of orders of magnitude difference?
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Originally Posted by jragosta
I see several statistics problems:
1. Representativeness of the sample. They do not define how the sample was obtained, so we have no way of knowing if it is representative of the population as a whole.
2. No independent verification. They are relying solely on the teen's word about what they have. Since the iPhone is the 'cool' phone, it's easy to say that you have an iPhone even if your parents bought you a POS Android phone.
3. Lack of data. We have no access to the raw data so cannot verify any of the above.
1. I'm sure they defined the sampling method, but it's not a free report. If you want to find out more, you have to pay.
2. Yeah, that's what a "survey" is. We use them in medical research as well. It's not perfect data, but it is unbiased.
3. Nobody who does expensive surveys is going to give you the raw data, so your complaint about this survey is odd. Do you complain that Nielsen doesn't give you their raw data?
Parents probably just add a line to their family plan. At most they'd have to pay for data for their child's phone.
Every kid does not have a $100 monthly phone bill.
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Originally Posted by isaidso
40% own an iPhone.
62% planned to buy an iPhone as their next phone.
44% own a tablet.
72% of those tablets were iPads.
Of the 20% of students who didn't own a tablet, but plan to buy one in the next 6 months, 74% want an iPad.
43% of teens planning on buying a tablet said they would be more likely to do so if Apple released a smaller iPad at $299.
Where do you see a statistics problem here?
Nowhere.
For example, 40% + 62% = 102% ?
Not a problem at all: someone who owns an iPhone can plan to buy a new one (to replace the current iPhone, or to have two phones, etc.).
J.
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Originally Posted by atokosch
I agree with the survey, but i honestly think that the numbers should be higher. I am a Junior in high school, and 90% of my friends have iPhones, and just about 90% of the kids in my school have one, if not they are getting one in the next 6 months, especially with Christmas being right around the corner.
This is probably true to affluent areas but I'm sure the figures for, say, inner-city Detroit are very different.
That's the problem with surveys like this - it's really difficult to get an accurate picture for an entire nation. This appears to be an online survey which creates a biased sample group by its very nature.
And, yet, none of your comments refutes what I said. Without knowing more details than have been provided, there is no way of knowing whether these numbers have any validity.
If they collected the numbers by sampling teens walking out of an Apple store with a package in their hands, the result would be very different than if they sampled random homeless teenagers in Brooklyn.
Similarly, it's a survey asking teens (who are very subject to peer pressure) which device they own.
Anyone who accepts these figures at face value is fooling themselves. The numbers could be legitimate, but without knowing more, it would be foolish to assume that.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
And, yet, none of your comments refutes what I said. Without knowing more details than have been provided, there is no way of knowing whether these numbers have any validity.
If they collected the numbers by sampling teens walking out of an Apple store with a package in their hands, the result would be very different than if they sampled random homeless teenagers in Brooklyn.
Similarly, it's a survey asking teens (who are very subject to peer pressure) which device they own.
Anyone who accepts these figures at face value is fooling themselves. The numbers could be legitimate, but without knowing more, it would be foolish to assume that.
Then pay up and find out if it's so important to you. I don't care enough.