Isn't this normal for the human eye and any camera lens? Maybe not the purple coloring, but if you look into the sun or take a photo into the sun especially for longer than needed you get sun flare - the color of the flare is inconsequential it still happens. This is natural, don't most people put their hand over the cam when there is too much sun anyway? Seems like a silly thing being blown wayyyy out of proportion.
It's a violet haze (purple isn't a spectral colour, it's a mixture of blue and red) and it's caused by lens flare: reflection and scattering from lens-element surfaces exposed to oblique light. It's the reason real cameras have lens hoods and why prime lenses generally give better contrast and colour clarity than zoom lenses (with many more elements).
Yes all cameras even DSLR can produce chromatic aberration (purple fringing) and that is not questionable.
But the amount of that haze you can get with iPee 5, the fact that it is sooooo purple and how easy it is to reproduce compared to other cameras is what does matter.
Of course the brightest light source will produce most of the aberration so if you adjust the camera angle you will eliminate most of it but reflected light falls into camera from all directions so even if you do adjust the camera angle you will still get some purplish coloration. Not to mention if you have multiple light sources positioned around the edges of the shot or even within the shot.
And since this issue affects the iP5 camera in such amount you will always get more aberration and more purple haze with it no matter what camera angle you choose (again, compared with other devices).
That feature alone makes IP5 camera poor in quality.
the fact that it is sooooo purple and how easy it is to reproduce compared to other cameras is what does matter.
If you had read the CR article you are posting about, you would realize what you said is completely wrong. Here is the critical part:
"But it didn't do so in any more pronounced a fashion than did the iPhone 4S or two Android-based smart phones, the Samsung Galaxy S III and Motorola Droid Razr Maxx, when we tested those under the same conditions."
See, wasn't that easy? No need to apologize, just make an effort to be informed before posting next time.
So, this non-story perpetuated by Gizmodo gets whored-out to every blog and news-site out there, who mindlessly parrot this 'issue' with the iPhone 5, without doing a shred of research into whether it's actually an issue specific to the device. Now, we have shocking reports that this actually ISNT an issue, and again, sites like CNN can put up another story for click-whoring. The responsible thing to do would have to do some research before posting the original story, and see if it had any sort of journalistic merit, and if not, then not publish it. But thats not how 'news' works these days, as having journalistic integrity gets you less eyeballs, and less $$.
I'm glad now some of these places are stating the obvious, which is that this wasn't an issue toi begin with, as anyone with a shred of camera knowledge realized the instant this 'purple-gate' was published and predictably every blog and their dog jumped on yet another opportunity to mindlessly bash Apple.
I prefer the natural yellow-orangish flare, as opposed to the purple. I don't mind normal light haze, but when someone's face is partially purple in my photos and the nearby lighting is white, it just doesn't look right. I gave up on the 5 and went back to the 4S...I'll wait until they spray the 5 with a UV coating or something and fix the weird purple color.
If you had read the CR article you are posting about, you would realize what you said is completely wrong. Here is the critical part:
"But it didn't do so in any more pronounced a fashion than did the iPhone 4S or two Android-based smart phones, the Samsung Galaxy S III and Motorola Droid Razr Maxx, when we tested those under the same conditions."
See, wasn't that easy? No need to apologize, just make an effort to be informed before posting next time.
It is funny how you use the word "informed" LOL
I thought that being informed means to gather information from multiple sources (the more the better) and then come to a reasonable conclusion and not just to nod on every piece of news supporting your view.
I thought that being informed means to gather information from multiple sources (the more the better) and then come to a reasonable conclusion and not just to nod on every piece of news supporting your view.
I prefer the natural yellowish-orange flare to the purple myself. I returned my 5 because of the excessive purple haze. It was just weird to have shots of people with purple on their faces instead of the normal white haze or yellow sun glare. My guess is that they skipped out on doing a UV coat on the 5's camera, and perhaps it's only limited to the initial rushed batch, who knows. Someone did a test with a third-party UV filter and it got rid of the purple on the iPhone 5:
It's just a stupid response from Apple to change the angle of your shot or hold your hand over the camera, when the 4S didn't do that. Look at my shot on the 4S above...directly into the sun with a nice large sunspot, and yet zero purple. Yes, all cameras have some degree of chromatic aberration or purple fringing, just not with the same amount as a lot of the iPhone 5's seem to have. It annoyed me enough that I downgraded.
I prefer the natural yellowish-orange flare to the purple myself. I returned my 5 because of the excessive purple haze. It was just weird to have shots of people with purple on their faces instead of the normal white haze or yellow sun glare. My guess is that they skipped out on doing a UV coat on the 5's camera, and perhaps it's only limited to the initial rushed batch, who knows. Someone did a test with a third-party UV filter and it got rid of the purple on the iPhone 5:
It's just a stupid response from Apple to change the angle of your shot or hold your hand over the camera, when the 4S didn't do that. Look at my shot on the 4S above...directly into the sun with a nice large sunspot, and yet zero purple. Yes, all cameras have some degree of chromatic aberration or purple fringing, just not with the same amount as a lot of the iPhone 5's seem to have. It annoyed me enough that I downgraded.
I can't accept that with the evidence you supplied.
Especially after reviewing Fat Toni's pics, (Review Slide Show, especially his top 10 on page 2.
Comments
I imagine the offices at CR are full of this...
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Originally Posted by MsQueen
Hopefully we can put this ignorance to an end once and for all.
Not likely. An iPhone user buys a phone and is happy with the choice. A Fandroid buys a phone and is unhappy with other people's choices.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
"And if" what? I'm all ears. ????????
Someone were still something, someone would agree with this comment.
Originally Posted by Chris_CA
Someone were still something, someone would agree with this comment.
*silent thumbs-up while looking contemplative and nodding*
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
"And if" what? I'm all ears. ????????
The ears don't match properly.
Cheers
Originally Posted by minicapt
The ears don't match properly.
Cheers
There's only a left ear emoji. ????????
Chears.
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Originally Posted by MsQueen
Hopefully we can put this ignorance to an end once and for all. This goes to both Android and iOS users.
Have you been reading any of the comments at all ?
All the FUD came from the android supporters, us Apple supporters simply used our greater reasoning powers and intellect to refute their bile.
I think you should amend your post, I'm waiting ...
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
two wrongs make a right - apple - Perhaps that's why Android / Windows phones don't cost as much.
? I don't get your comment, but I'm not surpassed based on your history of trolling.
Don't they like you at android central anymore ?
I think Microsoft is behind all the FUD.
All the *gates have a word that is common with a particular ex CEO. I rest my case !
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Originally Posted by Ireland
So are we supposed to be for or against CR, then?
LOL
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.. haha.
Isn't this normal for the human eye and any camera lens? Maybe not the purple coloring, but if you look into the sun or take a photo into the sun especially for longer than needed you get sun flare - the color of the flare is inconsequential it still happens. This is natural, don't most people put their hand over the cam when there is too much sun anyway? Seems like a silly thing being blown wayyyy out of proportion.
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Originally Posted by enzos
It's the reason real cameras have lens hoods
Hand = nature's lens hood.
Yes all cameras even DSLR can produce chromatic aberration (purple fringing) and that is not questionable.
But the amount of that haze you can get with iPee 5, the fact that it is sooooo purple and how easy it is to reproduce compared to other cameras is what does matter.
Of course the brightest light source will produce most of the aberration so if you adjust the camera angle you will eliminate most of it but reflected light falls into camera from all directions so even if you do adjust the camera angle you will still get some purplish coloration. Not to mention if you have multiple light sources positioned around the edges of the shot or even within the shot.
And since this issue affects the iP5 camera in such amount you will always get more aberration and more purple haze with it no matter what camera angle you choose (again, compared with other devices).
That feature alone makes IP5 camera poor in quality.
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Originally Posted by Nathillien
the fact that it is sooooo purple and how easy it is to reproduce compared to other cameras is what does matter.
If you had read the CR article you are posting about, you would realize what you said is completely wrong. Here is the critical part:
"But it didn't do so in any more pronounced a fashion than did the iPhone 4S or two Android-based smart phones, the Samsung Galaxy S III and Motorola Droid Razr Maxx, when we tested those under the same conditions."
See, wasn't that easy? No need to apologize, just make an effort to be informed before posting next time.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
So, this non-story perpetuated by Gizmodo gets whored-out to every blog and news-site out there, who mindlessly parrot this 'issue' with the iPhone 5, without doing a shred of research into whether it's actually an issue specific to the device. Now, we have shocking reports that this actually ISNT an issue, and again, sites like CNN can put up another story for click-whoring. The responsible thing to do would have to do some research before posting the original story, and see if it had any sort of journalistic merit, and if not, then not publish it. But thats not how 'news' works these days, as having journalistic integrity gets you less eyeballs, and less $$.
I'm glad now some of these places are stating the obvious, which is that this wasn't an issue toi begin with, as anyone with a shred of camera knowledge realized the instant this 'purple-gate' was published and predictably every blog and their dog jumped on yet another opportunity to mindlessly bash Apple.
Speak for yourself. Here's a photo from the 5:
http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/10/07/photo_%2817%29_610x413.jpg
Here's a photo yesterday from my 4S:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A45SpFVCIAQvlNJ.jpg
I prefer the natural yellow-orangish flare, as opposed to the purple. I don't mind normal light haze, but when someone's face is partially purple in my photos and the nearby lighting is white, it just doesn't look right. I gave up on the 5 and went back to the 4S...I'll wait until they spray the 5 with a UV coating or something and fix the weird purple color.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
InexplicablyUnableToScrollSmoothlyDespiteHavingAGigAndAHalfGHzProcessorgate.
More like unable to scroll smoothly because the entire display manager runs on top of Java...
OSes like Maemo, Meego, WebOS and now Tizen were always technically better than Android, but Android won because of Google's support.
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Originally Posted by JollyPaul
If you had read the CR article you are posting about, you would realize what you said is completely wrong. Here is the critical part:
"But it didn't do so in any more pronounced a fashion than did the iPhone 4S or two Android-based smart phones, the Samsung Galaxy S III and Motorola Droid Razr Maxx, when we tested those under the same conditions."
See, wasn't that easy? No need to apologize, just make an effort to be informed before posting next time.
It is funny how you use the word "informed" LOL
I thought that being informed means to gather information from multiple sources (the more the better) and then come to a reasonable conclusion and not just to nod on every piece of news supporting your view.
No need to apologize though
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Originally Posted by Nathillien
It is funny how you use the word "informed" LOL
I thought that being informed means to gather information from multiple sources (the more the better) and then come to a reasonable conclusion and not just to nod on every piece of news supporting your view.
No need to apologize though
iPhone 5 sample shot:
http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/10/07/photo_%2817%29_610x413.jpg
iPhone 4S sample shot:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A45SpFVCIAQvlNJ.jpg
I prefer the natural yellowish-orange flare to the purple myself. I returned my 5 because of the excessive purple haze. It was just weird to have shots of people with purple on their faces instead of the normal white haze or yellow sun glare. My guess is that they skipped out on doing a UV coat on the 5's camera, and perhaps it's only limited to the initial rushed batch, who knows. Someone did a test with a third-party UV filter and it got rid of the purple on the iPhone 5:
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/04/iphone-5-purple-flare-its-the-purple-not-the-flare/
It's just a stupid response from Apple to change the angle of your shot or hold your hand over the camera, when the 4S didn't do that. Look at my shot on the 4S above...directly into the sun with a nice large sunspot, and yet zero purple. Yes, all cameras have some degree of chromatic aberration or purple fringing, just not with the same amount as a lot of the iPhone 5's seem to have. It annoyed me enough that I downgraded.
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Originally Posted by kaidomac
iPhone 5 sample shot:
http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/10/07/photo_%2817%29_610x413.jpg
iPhone 4S sample shot:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A45SpFVCIAQvlNJ.jpg
I prefer the natural yellowish-orange flare to the purple myself. I returned my 5 because of the excessive purple haze. It was just weird to have shots of people with purple on their faces instead of the normal white haze or yellow sun glare. My guess is that they skipped out on doing a UV coat on the 5's camera, and perhaps it's only limited to the initial rushed batch, who knows. Someone did a test with a third-party UV filter and it got rid of the purple on the iPhone 5:
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/04/iphone-5-purple-flare-its-the-purple-not-the-flare/
It's just a stupid response from Apple to change the angle of your shot or hold your hand over the camera, when the 4S didn't do that. Look at my shot on the 4S above...directly into the sun with a nice large sunspot, and yet zero purple. Yes, all cameras have some degree of chromatic aberration or purple fringing, just not with the same amount as a lot of the iPhone 5's seem to have. It annoyed me enough that I downgraded.
I can't accept that with the evidence you supplied.
Especially after reviewing Fat Toni's pics, (Review Slide Show, especially his top 10 on page 2.