Apple reaches license agreement for Swiss rail clock design

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  • Reply 41 of 81
    stuffestuffe Posts: 392member

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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


     


    These do look really cool.  


    If it made any kind of sense to even wear one of these "watch" things anymore, this is the one I'd get.  


    Sadly, watches are about as relevant as moustache wax and spats at this point.  



     


    I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc.  A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is.  No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around.  Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).

  • Reply 42 of 81
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member

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    Originally Posted by haar View Post





    ba-dum-bah!!... and a dead clock is right twice a day...


    Which is a better record than some of our more infamous trolls here .... yes DaHarder, I'm looking at you .... image

  • Reply 43 of 81
    galbigalbi Posts: 968member


    Try this:


     


    Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.


     


    This is what Apple is doing.


     


    They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.


     


    Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.

     


    I'd have to say the latter.

  • Reply 44 of 81

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    Originally Posted by Red Oak View Post



    I love that watch... Anybody have a link to buy?


     


    You can find them on Amazon too, but most reviews are disappointed that it's a Chinese made watch with German movement, using a Swiss-designed face. A reasonably priced and attractive watch, but its movement is "tick-tick-tick" instead of the sweeping second hand that pauses at the 12 position.

  • Reply 45 of 81
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member

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    Originally Posted by icoco3 View Post




    Was I supposed to laugh??



    Not unless you have a sense of humour.

  • Reply 46 of 81
    stuffestuffe Posts: 392member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galbi View Post


    Try this:


     


    Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.


     


    This is what Apple is doing.


     


    They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.


     


    Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.

     


    I'd have to say the latter.



     


    Try this:


     


    Count the days, the lawsuits, the counter lawsuits, the products and the fighting and the failure to reach an agreement despite being clearly wrong.


     


    Then note that this has been settled in something like 3 weeks, no lawsuits, no countersuing, just a straight hands up and paid agreement.  Done, dusted.


     


    Comparable?

  • Reply 47 of 81
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,383member

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    Originally Posted by jd_in_sb View Post



    I don't see that design in the ios 6 clock app.l


    I know, it's only on the iPad version of iOS.

  • Reply 48 of 81

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    Originally Posted by Galbi View Post


    This is what Apple is doing.



     




    Nah, that's more what the apple FANBOYS are doing.  The ones who (even now) scream that black is white, up is down and these two designs are completely different and oh yeah SBB sucks!


     


    The apple FANS, on the other hand, took one look at this and said, "yeah, Apple shouldn't have done this and they make this right."  And Apple did.  A little bit of a bad behavior for the original person who swiped the design, but the people higher up did the right thing.

  • Reply 49 of 81
    richl wrote: »
    I second that.

    And not a second too soon!
  • Reply 50 of 81
    WATCH OUT COMPETITION!!!

    Apple got this CLOCK hands down!
  • Reply 51 of 81
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,719member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galbi View Post


    Try this:


     


    Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.


     


    This is what Apple is doing.


     


    They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.


     


    Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.

     


    I'd have to say the latter.



    What are you talking about? If Apple was a clock manufacturer, and went to court claiming the design was not a copy, but was inspired by the weather, or some such... and there were lots of side by side design comparisons found in Jony Ive's desk with meeting minutes describing discussion of the Swiss Rail Clock... you might have a point. I think you are HUGELY out to lunch, here.

  • Reply 52 of 81
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,719member

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    Originally Posted by ChristophB View Post





    And not a second too soon!


    I'd say you are too late.

  • Reply 53 of 81
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

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    Originally Posted by stuffe View Post


     


    I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc.  A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is.  No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around.  Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).



     


    This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree.  I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.  


     


    I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital.  If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out.  Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.  


     


    They are increasingly, just fashion statements.  Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.  

  • Reply 54 of 81
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,719member

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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


     


    This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree.  I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.  


     


    I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital.  If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out.  Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.  


     


    They are increasingly, just fashion statements.  Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.  



    I haven't worn one for at least 15 years. I have a few and love watches, specially the mechanical auto wind ones, but they are antiques to me. If I don't have a cell phone of some kind, or a computer near by, or the radio on, or television, I probably don't need to know what time it is.

  • Reply 55 of 81
    red oak wrote: »
    I love that watch... Anybody have a link to buy?

    Looks a lot like the American railroad watch my dad has. Its a Buliva with this cool tuning fork based movement, except the second hand doesn't have the ball on the end.

    I bet it was less about money and more about having Apple acknowledge their original design. I am glad it was settled amicably.
  • Reply 56 of 81
    gazoobee wrote: »
    This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree.  I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.  

    I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital.  If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out.  Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.  

    They are increasingly, just fashion statements.  Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.  

    Funny you bring this up. I brought the kids to visit my parents and my mother bought the boys these really cool snoopy analogue watches precisely because she was worried that they might growing up without being able to instinctively read an analogue clock.
  • Reply 57 of 81
    dsddsd Posts: 186member


    Time to wind up this thread.

  • Reply 58 of 81
    paxman wrote: »
    <div class="quote-container"> <span>Quote:</span> <div class="quote-block"> Originally Posted by <strong>Galbi</strong> <a href="/t/153330/apple-reaches-license-agreement-for-swiss-rail-clock-design/40#post_2210163"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <br /> <p> Try this:</p> <p>  </p> <p> Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.</p> <p>  </p> <p> This is what Apple is doing.</p> <p>  </p> <p> They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.</p> <p>  </p> <p> Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.<br />  </p> <p> I'd have to say the latter.</p> </div></div><p> What are you talking about? If Apple was a clock manufacturer, and went to court claiming the design was not a copy, but was inspired by the weather, or some such... and there were lots of side by side design comparisons found in Jony Ive's desk with meeting minutes describing discussion of the Swiss Rail Clock... you might have a point. I think you are HUGELY out to lunch, here.</p>

    Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.
    Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.
    The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?
  • Reply 59 of 81
    stuffestuffe Posts: 392member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


     


    This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree.  I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.  


     


    I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital.  If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out.  Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.  


     


    They are increasingly, just fashion statements.  Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.  



    Subjective, yes, but I also think that a design that is being copied almost identically 70 years after it was first used, is proof enough that some things do stand the test of time.


     


    Also, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, if you come across someone who *cannot* read an analogue clock, then I say that is because they are dumb, or there has been a serious failing in their education.  I don't have a sundial, but I know how to read one.  I don't have a fountain pen, but I know how to use one.  Just because it is old, or is more commonly used with modern versions/replacements, doesn't mean we should be ignorant of what has gone before.

  • Reply 60 of 81

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xuselppa View Post





    Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.

    Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.

    The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?


    "bingo. Love technology and love my products from all names in the game - (well maybe an exception for microsoft but i digress) and all companies are guilty of this - they are all for profit right?"

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