Apple expected to unveil Retina 13" MacBook Pro at next week's 'iPad mini' event

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  • Reply 41 of 79
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

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    In addition to a smaller iPad, Apple also reportedly plans to unveil a 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display at a media event next week.


    I like the way the products to be launched next week are being discussed when no launch has yet been announced. But regardless, there is no way an iPad mini and an 13"mbp will be announced at the same event. The mbp may, as has been suggested, slip in to the inventory with little fanfare, but it will not be mentioned at the iPad launch. The Apple launches are flashy marketing events and to dilute the message would be a mistake. I am sure the iPad will be launched in conjunction with some other service directly related to the new form factor. They'll want to contextualize the iPad and by so doing give every newspaper, tech-site and blogger free copy to spread for general consumption. 



    If it is indeed being billed as a Media Event, there would be various ways to incorporate both devices in a coherent way. If the introduction was about iBooks, possibly iBooks for Mac, and also a new and improved iBooks Author which also runs on the new Mac. And then in honor of the first keynote since a year of the passing of SJ..."Oh and one more thing!" A brand new iPad! Boom!

  • Reply 42 of 79
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member


     



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    That's hardly a similar comparison.


     




     


    lol... a computer display and a television display are "hardly a comparison".  I would love to hear a better comparison.  


     


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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    If you actually spent the most time looking at it, you'd see that its design is LITERALLY this:


     


    Screen.


    Border.


     


    Unless you spend the most time looking at the back of your boss' display as he chastises you for looking at the back of his display too often, there's really nothing to "redesign" about it. 



    Remember when I said I thought the iMac was so beautiful as is that I couldn't imagine how a redesign could be more beautiful.


     


    And then you have your typical A-hole response of "That's why you don't work for Apple".


     


     


    Well- That's why you don't work for Apple.  Why you "work" for Appleinsider is beyond me.  The annoyance, arrogance, hypocrisy (see what I just said, what you just said, and then try to justify your a-hole response) is too much for words.  Even the other moderators seem to dislike you most the time.


     


    Hey- you know what would make me like you more?  If you could make it where we could block/ignore moderators... that would be great.

  • Reply 43 of 79


    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post


    lol... a computer display and a television display are "hardly a comparison".  I would love to hear a better comparison.  



     


    Nit-picking your own arguments, eh? Even still, they're not the same.


     


    How is it that a Cinema Display and a TV are similar, again? Is the visible design of a TV irreducibly complex? I don't think so.


     




    Remember when I said I thought the iMac was so beautiful as is that I couldn't imagine how a redesign could be more beautiful.




     


    And now you're on the other side of that argument, which I find interesting. image

  • Reply 44 of 79
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member


     





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    Nit-picking your own arguments, eh? Even still, they're not the same.


     



     


    Not answering the question, eh?  Even still, give a better comparison.


     


     


     


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    And now you're on the other side of that argument, which I find interesting. image



    Nope- not on any side.  I don't care, don't own, likely won't own, and again- don't care about a cinema display.  So now you're on hypocrisy island all by yourself.


     


     


    Here's your post just so you can bask again in your idiocy.


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    It doesn't need a redesign- what are they going to make it look like that could be any better looking or more useful outside of Retina (which it clearly isn't ready for yet).


     


     


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    That's why you don't work at Apple.


  • Reply 45 of 79

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    That is integrated graphics (like the Intel HD 4000 in the current 13").



    yes - i think he might have meant the 3009 or 2010 13 inch SILVER macbook, it was the last silver macbook that also had swappable battery. Graphics was discreet, GeForce 320M It was faster in the graphics department than the 13 MB(P) that i think followed it

  • Reply 46 of 79
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member

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    So next week is all about smaller versions of the iPad, MBP?



     


    If the event happens (likely it appears) and if it includes an iPad Mini, that's not as big an event as the new iPad was (which also spent a lot of time introducing the release of iOS 6 which the mini will be running, so little news there, except for possible customizations for the new device, and also since the big news about the Mini is its size, not likely any new unique tech).  And another retina MBP is not as big the first either.



    So this would (could) be a raft of holiday-timed releases (headlined by the Mini but not limited to it), ergo possibly the 13 MBPr, a new thinner form factor iMac, and then going down from there in probability, a revamped Cinema display, new web and software revs or releases, and a few tweaks to other devices and programs, making good on Cook's promise to see virtually the whole Apple line-up refreshed in 2012. 


     


    Ending with, "and so that's our holiday line-up" - then reviewing the new products introduced not only at that event, but all year long.



    And possibly in a smaller hall than the iPhone 5 release was held in. 

  • Reply 47 of 79
    When do you think we will see an 11" MBA with retina display? The form factor of that design intrigues me.

    I already have a 3 year-old 13" MBP that I'm still quite happy with, other than the weight. But after getting the iPhone 5, I won't buy anything new from Apple these days unless it has the retina, and that includes the iPad mini.
  • Reply 48 of 79
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member

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    If it is indeed being billed as a Media Event, there would be various ways to incorporate both devices in a coherent way. If the introduction was about iBooks, possibly iBooks for Mac, and also a new and improved iBooks Author which also runs on the new Mac. And then in honor of the first keynote since a year of the passing of SJ..."Oh and one more thing!" A brand new iPad! Boom!



    True. I read on cnet that a new Mac Mini is also expected - which brings in the whole 'mini' idea. A launch of mini products. I think your speculation is more likely than the mini idea, however. But I still think a iPad mini launch is big news. The whole world is waiting for it so to dilute that free and very focussed marketing by bringing in another product doesn't seem right. What does seem right is to bring in a new, or re-launch an existing service/ software deal such as iBooks on the back of an iPad mini launch.

  • Reply 49 of 79
    dhagan4755dhagan4755 Posts: 2,152member

    I can see how this whole thing plays out right now…


     


    Tim Cook does the typical business recap that's done at the beginning of every one of these events; showing off new Apple retail stores, iPods, music, etc.


     


    As part of the "look at how great our notebooks are selling" portion of this recap, he dwells on how amazing the 15-inch retina MacBook Pro is.  Quotes articles on the screen.  Then Cook says, "Today Apple is announcing a new 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina display.  It's simply gorgeous.  And now to tell you more about it, Phil Schiller."  


     


    Phil comes up to go over the screen, ports, pricing and availability.


     


    Then they move over to the success of the iPad & the new iPad mini. That part dominates the rest of the special event along with a focus on iBooks.


     


    Apple's getting wicked predictable.
  • Reply 50 of 79
    Nit-picking your own arguments, eh? Even still, they're not the same.

    How is it that a Cinema Display and a TV are similar, again? Is the visible design of a TV irreducibly complex? I don't think so.


    And now you're on the other side of that argument, which I find interesting. :lol:


    Does power corrupt? :\. Andysol, the moderator is often the worst species of keyboard warrior, this guy's 15 and tripping on it. Stay cool.
  • Reply 51 of 79
    adonissmu wrote: »
    *snicker* This is what you call a controlled leak.

    You must be referring to the phenomena of peeing in your pants voluntarily upon hearing the news that a smaller retina MacBook Pro is coming soon.
  • Reply 52 of 79
    nhtnht Posts: 4,522member

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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    True. I read on cnet that a new Mac Mini is also expected - which brings in the whole 'mini' idea. A launch of mini products. I think your speculation is more likely than the mini idea, however. But I still think a iPad mini launch is big news. The whole world is waiting for it so to dilute that free and very focussed marketing by bringing in another product doesn't seem right. What does seem right is to bring in a new, or re-launch an existing service/ software deal such as iBooks on the back of an iPad mini launch.



     


    So if the tag line is "Small is Beautiful" we can expect the 13" MBP, the iPad Mini and the Mac Mini.  The new iMacs will just have to get a silent update the night before. :)

  • Reply 53 of 79
    aizmovaizmov Posts: 989member
    Discrete GPU please
  • Reply 54 of 79
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

    … nothing on the iPad mini front. ... the ribbon cable was debunked ....


     


    Correction.  


    One, of the three, separate, and differently constructed "leaked iPad mini cables" has turned out to have been for the iPod touch.  


     


    So in fact, none have been "debunked," and only one of three has turned out to be for something else.


    It seems like you are so scared of being proven wrong about the iPad mini that you are mis-remembering your facts now.  

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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

    One, of the three, separate, and differently constructed "leaked iPad mini cables" has turned out to have been for the iPod touch.  


     


    What were the other two?





    It seems like you are so scared of being proven wrong…




     


    Keep your pants on. 

  • Reply 56 of 79
    nhtnht Posts: 4,522member

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    I already have one of those. Totally overrated. 



     


    You need to download the patch to enable the rainbows.

  • Reply 57 of 79
    nhtnht Posts: 4,522member

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    Discrete GPU please


     


    for the 13" MBP I would take that over retina.  That would make it more pro to me.

  • Reply 58 of 79
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

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    ... The 15" rMBP was a retina device released into an ecosystem of nothing but non-retina devices. The iPad mini is a non-retina device being released into an ecosystem of nothing but retina devices. 


     


    Now combine the two. In one event, they're releasing a new product (13" rMBP) that goes against its ecosystem positively, and a new product (iPad mini) that goes against its ecosystem negatively.


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    This is just ridiculous reasoning.  


     


    It *sounds* reasonable until you realise that you are talking about "retina" and "non-retina" screens as if they were completely different components when in fact they are variations of the same component.  


     


    You want your argument to sound like "cars with wheels" vs. "cars without wheels" when in fact you are talking about "cars with regular tires" vs. "cars with whitewalls."  


     


    To make a closer computer related analogy... it's not like dropping a laptop with an optical drive into an ecosystem of laptops without optical drives, it's more like dropping a laptop with a faster optical drive into an ecosystem of laptops with slower optical drives. 

  • Reply 59 of 79
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

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    What were the other two?


     


    Keep your pants on. 



     


    One from France early on, one from somewhere else at the end (can't remember).  The leak in the middle (shot of two iPad mini and two iPhone cables), was the one that turned up in iFixit's teardown of the iPod touch.  


     


    Also, keep the "pants" remarks to yourself.  If you want to insult me just call me a name (I can take it and I won't report you to your Mom), don't refer to clothing, stripping, taking my clothes off etc. as that's pretty offensive, and generally just an extremely icky and overly personal thing to say.  


     


    And yes, reading between the lines, your posts seem to be chock full of sweaty panic as the day of the mini comes closer ... 


     


    Of course, you won't admit to being wrong even when it happens.  Because ... immaturity.    

  • Reply 60 of 79
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    oneaburns wrote: »
    I was thinking the exact same thing.  I was convinced the iPad mini would be 163 ppi due to supply constrains on the retina displays, bigger battery needed and especially, cost.  But it would be very odd to introduce a retina product and talk about how great the display is at the same time as a non-retina display.  Of course, Apple's not been making a lot of sense lately.

    First off I'm not sure where the idea comes from that retina displays are in short supply. Apple has been pumping them out in iPads for almost a year now and much longer in iPhones.

    Second there is this idea floating around that Apple needs a low resolution screen to meet some odd price point for the iPad Mini. This totally dismisses the fact that Touch exists. Apple is far more likely to simply price the Mini at whatever point is required to cover their margin requirements.

    Third most of the speculation about a low resolution Mini comes from weak minded individuals that can't grasp reality as it is. Unless you have inside information, something nobody here has, you can't assume Apple will go discount with the Mini. History with Apple strongly indicates they would instead go the extra mile.

    Fourth what difference does it make. They might even introduce a new Mac Mini which ships with zero resolution. Guys we are talking entirely different product lines here. One will not detract from the other especially if you as a customer are waiting for one device and not the other.
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