Overall my Mac mini is starting to show it's age. I am not sure how much faster overall the processor options are over my current i5-2410M are however I know a PCIe SSD would wipe out my Samsung 470 and the Iris graphics would be a huge improvement over my HD 3000. I am not sure if I want to wait another year because what if Apple doesn't update by then.
Normally I wouldn't reply to this but since I'm trying to get to 1,000 posts, see my quoted post below specifically the bold, italicized, and underlined part.
Overall my Mac mini is starting to show it's age. I am not sure how much faster overall the processor options are over my current i5-2410M are however I know a PCIe SSD would wipe out my Samsung 470 and the Iris graphics would be a huge improvement over my HD 3000. I am not sure if I want to wait another year because what if Apple doesn't update by then.
Normally I wouldn't reply to this but since I'm trying to get to 1,000 posts, see my quoted post below specifically the bold, italicized, and underlined part.
Yah, you kinda wasted your 1000 post on a troll question. I dunno what his problem is but that doesn't seem like a question asked in anything close to good faith.
Yah, you kinda wasted your 1000 post on a troll question. I dunno what his problem is but that doesn't seem like a question asked in anything close to good faith.
He’s concerned about his own Mac Mini and the future viability of its hardware, is all.
He’s concerned about his own Mac Mini and the future viability of its hardware, is all.
Pretty much this. I wouldn't even be so concerned either had I not had to put in the SSD into my Mac mini myself haphazardly. The lid of my mini is still sitting on top of the computer upside down and I am dying to test the raw speed of the PCIe SSD. It isn't just Iris or even Iris Pro that is the selling point.
He’s concerned about his own Mac Mini and the future viability of its hardware, is all.
My own interest in the line relates to it being cost effective while allowing me to use whatever display. A new mac pro would be nice, but the total cost is going to be pretty bad. I may wait to see performance numbers and eventual refurbished pricing as my biggest bottlenecks depending on what I'm doing are OpenGL, ram, and total possible displays. It's pretty awesome to be painting in one window and have Xcode in the other, but I'm a huge nerd. I am disappointed in its pricing, but I still plan to read up on it once others have had the chance to road test early units.
See if I could, I would buy a Mac Pro however I don't know if I would be able to push it to the limit that I absolutely could. I use my mini for very basic stuff but that doesn't mean I want the lowest available parts to use i.e. i5-4200M, HD 4600 graphics, 4 GB RAM, 750 GB HDD or 500 GB if Apple was really stingy for $599.
The mini is always the last thing to be updated. You should have noticed this by now. Look at last year. They didn't hold it back as long, but they didn't release a mini until the imac was announced. Their initial supplies of any given mobile class cpu are earmarked for the 13 and 15" macbook pros with the minis being of a much lower priority. It's unfortunate, but it is consistent.
I personally feel there should at the very least be some rumors about the mini. Is it that much the red-headed stepchild of the Mac lineup? I seemingly hear everything else. An 11" MacBook, a 12", a 13", a 14", a 15", a 16", an iPad with 1/3 of a millimeter shaved off called the iPad Super Air. I mean I love that the Mac Pro is being focused on and I love that is being assembled in the USA. I'd like to see the mini go in that same direction with a unique design and also assembled in the USA. If the Mac Pro is a trash can, then the mini can be a soup can.
If the Mac Pro is a trash can, then the mini can be a soup can.
Okay I'm stealing that line, because it's excellent.
It would be even more excellent if that is what Apple delivers in the revised Mini. Well maybe something a bit bigger than a soup can. I still have the problem that if you go too small you give up too much performance. Of course with ARM and the coming Intel processors you actually might get better than Mini performance in a soup can.
One of the things about Apples A chips is that we don't know where they top out at performance wise. Considering that one of the goals of ARM 64 has been performance I could see A7 possibly going over the 3GHz mark. Right now Apple clocks the chips for low power not performance. You have to wonder what is achievable when performance is the goal.
I think the biggest potential for making the Mini smaller would be to remove the power supply from the inside of the machine (this would also help with using it as a server, right?)
USB 3.1 was finalized in the summer, but Intel likely isn't adding it in for some time, and even if Apple went crazy and decided to push the TB competitor early, the Mini isn't a candidate for debuting this tech. (I do wonder when it will reach the iMac though.)
I think they add TB2 and the new wifi standard and ship it. They need a low end switcher machine. Unless the TB Display changes colour, I think they stick with silver.
I think the biggest potential for making the Mini smaller would be to remove the power supply from the inside of the machine (this would also help with using it as a server, right?)
The old one had a brick. They went away from that design, not toward it. Power bricks are generally not the best power supplies anyway.
The Mac Mini may be dropped this is a certain rumor I heard from someone who has reliable sources.
Oh I completely believe you.
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Anyway, it might be better for me to look ahead to next year. Again it's a matter of want vs. need. If I had bought a mini back in 2010 and was using a Core 2 Duo then the 2012 quad-core mini would be perfect. Any quad-core Haswell is a nice jump over Sandy Bridge, right? Dual-core I don't know.
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What is wrong with the Intel 3000?
Overall my Mac mini is starting to show it's age. I am not sure how much faster overall the processor options are over my current i5-2410M are however I know a PCIe SSD would wipe out my Samsung 470 and the Iris graphics would be a huge improvement over my HD 3000. I am not sure if I want to wait another year because what if Apple doesn't update by then.
Again what is great about Iris graphics?
Normally I wouldn't reply to this but since I'm trying to get to 1,000 posts, see my quoted post below specifically the bold, italicized, and underlined part.
Normally I wouldn't reply to this but since I'm trying to get to 1,000 posts, see my quoted post below specifically the bold, italicized, and underlined part.
Yah, you kinda wasted your 1000 post on a troll question. I dunno what his problem is but that doesn't seem like a question asked in anything close to good faith.
Yah, you kinda wasted your 1000 post on a troll question. I dunno what his problem is but that doesn't seem like a question asked in anything close to good faith.
He’s concerned about his own Mac Mini and the future viability of its hardware, is all.
Pretty much this. I wouldn't even be so concerned either had I not had to put in the SSD into my Mac mini myself haphazardly. The lid of my mini is still sitting on top of the computer upside down and I am dying to test the raw speed of the PCIe SSD. It isn't just Iris or even Iris Pro that is the selling point.
He’s concerned about his own Mac Mini and the future viability of its hardware, is all.
My own interest in the line relates to it being cost effective while allowing me to use whatever display. A new mac pro would be nice, but the total cost is going to be pretty bad. I may wait to see performance numbers and eventual refurbished pricing as my biggest bottlenecks depending on what I'm doing are OpenGL, ram, and total possible displays. It's pretty awesome to be painting in one window and have Xcode in the other, but I'm a huge nerd. I am disappointed in its pricing, but I still plan to read up on it once others have had the chance to road test early units.
Apple and stingy?
Yes. Terribly so since 2008 where they have shamelessly upped the price of entry iMac with integrated crappies from £695 to...
£1150 is it?
A £450 price rise. Plus £60 for the DVD player. That's £500. (The latter...is a lot of money in the UK.)
Apple made the entry iMac too expensive.
Put Iris Pro in the top end Mini. Would you buy a low end iMac? No.
Lemon Bon Bon.
The mini is always the last thing to be updated. You should have noticed this by now. Look at last year. They didn't hold it back as long, but they didn't release a mini until the imac was announced. Their initial supplies of any given mobile class cpu are earmarked for the 13 and 15" macbook pros with the minis being of a much lower priority. It's unfortunate, but it is consistent.
Give the man a cigar!
If the Mac Pro is a trash can, then the mini can be a soup can.
Okay I'm stealing that line, because it's excellent.
One of the things about Apples A chips is that we don't know where they top out at performance wise. Considering that one of the goals of ARM 64 has been performance I could see A7 possibly going over the 3GHz mark. Right now Apple clocks the chips for low power not performance. You have to wonder what is achievable when performance is the goal.
The Mac Mini may be dropped this is a certain rumor I heard from someone who has reliable sources.
I think the biggest potential for making the Mini smaller would be to remove the power supply from the inside of the machine (this would also help with using it as a server, right?)
USB 3.1 was finalized in the summer, but Intel likely isn't adding it in for some time, and even if Apple went crazy and decided to push the TB competitor early, the Mini isn't a candidate for debuting this tech. (I do wonder when it will reach the iMac though.)
I think they add TB2 and the new wifi standard and ship it. They need a low end switcher machine. Unless the TB Display changes colour, I think they stick with silver.
We'll know in a fortnight or so.
I think the biggest potential for making the Mini smaller would be to remove the power supply from the inside of the machine (this would also help with using it as a server, right?)
The old one had a brick. They went away from that design, not toward it. Power bricks are generally not the best power supplies anyway.
Oh I completely believe you.
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Anyway, it might be better for me to look ahead to next year. Again it's a matter of want vs. need. If I had bought a mini back in 2010 and was using a Core 2 Duo then the 2012 quad-core mini would be perfect. Any quad-core Haswell is a nice jump over Sandy Bridge, right? Dual-core I don't know.