Windows NT 3.51 was confusing as hell too. Every server upgrade they have ever made was a complete departure from the previous version.
They've certainly added more complexity which rightfully required additional training but it's always been reasonable and formidable, which is why I'm jumping on it now despite my company only recently moving to 2008.
Thanks to Agramonte for his recent comments, posted from a tablet that does not have spellcheck. I like to see the concept of a corporate implementation Manuel. Always there are thinkers and then the ones who get things done. Manuel, Make it So!
Apple should now have the noblesse oblige to not talk Microsoft products down. If you talk your opponents down you sound weak and a little childish. Samsung is another matter — less business rivals, more IP thieves wearing masks and carrying a bag marked 'swag'. But Microsoft have gone out of their way to differentiate the look of their tablet from the iPad. They deserve some props for that.
Windows NT 3.51 was confusing as hell too. Every server upgrade they have ever made was a complete departure from the previous version.
They've certainly added more complexity which rightfully required additional training but it's always been reasonable and formidable, which is why I'm jumping on it now despite my company only recently moving to 2008.
I'm sticking with CentOS. Pretty much the same as Sun OS 4 from 1994 when I first got into this gig.
I'm sticking with CentOS. Pretty much the same as Sun OS 4 from 1994 when I first got into this gig.
I've used Red Hat over the years and use some version of Linux at work and elsewhere in many iterations, including on Citrix XenServer for many VMs of varying types, but I've never used CentOS.
Speaking of Windows crashes at important events....
This is ancient history now I suppose, but does anybody know how long the BSOD lasted at the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremonies? Of course on TV we only saw a momentary BSOD and then a cut and the ceremonies resumed immediately, but in the actual stadium, we don't know how long the hiatus was or how long everybody sat there twiddling their thumbs while they frantically pushed ctl+alt+del over and over and over—girly-running too, for all I know.
If it were anybody but Microsoft, you think NBC would have covered up for them like that?
Sinofsky has been well and truly suckered into this response. What a dumbass thing to say, of course a mini is a recreational device it's not trying to be anything else Apple has serious laptops for serious use.
I agree with you 100% bravo! as an aside, I actually agree with both Apple's and Microsoft's criticisms about each others products. One is mostly recreational and the other is mostly compromising and confusing.
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Apple should now have the noblesse oblige to not talk Microsoft products down. If you talk your opponents down you sound weak and a little childish. Samsung is another matter — less business rivals, more IP thieves wearing masks and carrying a bag marked 'swag'. But Microsoft have gone out of their way to differentiate the look of their tablet from the iPad. They deserve some props for that.
Apple didn't actually talk their product down. Tim was ask his opinion during their earnings call and he just quoted a couple of reviewers. So technically, those weren't his words.
I'm sticking with CentOS. Pretty much the same as Sun OS 4 from 1994 when I first got into this gig.
I've used Red Hat over the years and use some version of Linux at work and elsewhere in many iterations, including on Citrix XenServer for many VMs of varying types, but I've never used CentOS.
CentOS is Red Hat. Because Red Hat is open sourced licensed they have to publish the source code so CentOS just republishes it free. It is the same as Red Hat EL without the branding or the service contract. It is the most popular flavor of Linux by a large margin, especially for commercial use.
IOW an Atom/AMD powered Netbook with no touchscreen (likely a crappy TN screen and small rotating HD).
The exact same thing everyone said would kill the iPad when it debuted in 2010.
100 Million iPads/275000 dedicated applications later and he is still using an answer that was foolish in 2010?
Netbooks. Really? That's the best you got?
I don't think Netbooks really compete with iPads.
But you know what that $279 Netbook with real windows, certainly competes with a $600 Surface, that doesn't run real windows applications, and has a floppy membrane keyboard that makes the netbooks look like an expensive mechanical in comparison.
Yay Surface RT, You can spend sub $300 for real windows, with a real keyboards and real applications. Or you can get a surface for more than double the price, half the performance, membrane keyboard, and almost no applications.
yeah, RIM tried that tactic when they promoted their "Playbook", calling the iPad a toy compared to theirs.
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Didn't work out too well for them either.
When you look at how the iPad is often used recreationally, it's kind of like the OLD Apple quip that; "Sure Macs aren't any good at games, but people use them to get work done." Do they not understand their target market?
It's like promoting XBox for presentations, and all games were forced to use bullet points.
I know right? Put out a sign that says "Line Starts Here" there's supposed to be a line right?
That can't be VIP access to stop normal people, that rope is obviously meant to stop Leprechauns, Lawn Gnomes and Little Fairies. No wonder it looks so vacant.
When you target the people who would "enjoy the Windows experience on a tablet" -- you might be looking for repeat customers of the Zune, or Unicorns.
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They've certainly added more complexity which rightfully required additional training but it's always been reasonable and formidable, which is why I'm jumping on it now despite my company only recently moving to 2008.
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
The iPad mini: It just works.
The Surface: It just locks up.
the funniest thing about that video...
When he runs off to get the working tablet and you look in the audience, about everyone with a laptop had a glowing Apple on it...
You mean 0.2 surely? Otherwise my thoughts exactly mini Balmer but of course that's who they'd use to talk about iPad mini LOL
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Originally Posted by Eluard
Apple should now have the noblesse oblige to not talk Microsoft products down. If you talk your opponents down you sound weak and a little childish. Samsung is another matter — less business rivals, more IP thieves wearing masks and carrying a bag marked 'swag'. But Microsoft have gone out of their way to differentiate the look of their tablet from the iPad. They deserve some props for that.
Yeah.
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Originally Posted by mstone
Windows NT 3.51 was confusing as hell too. Every server upgrade they have ever made was a complete departure from the previous version.
They've certainly added more complexity which rightfully required additional training but it's always been reasonable and formidable, which is why I'm jumping on it now despite my company only recently moving to 2008.
I'm sticking with CentOS. Pretty much the same as Sun OS 4 from 1994 when I first got into this gig.
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Originally Posted by jd_in_sb
The worst part about the tablet crash is Sinofsky's "girly run" across the stage.
Did you also notice the "Pink Screen of Death" on the large TVs behind him... it was soo "cute."
I've used Red Hat over the years and use some version of Linux at work and elsewhere in many iterations, including on Citrix XenServer for many VMs of varying types, but I've never used CentOS.
Speaking of Windows crashes at important events....
This is ancient history now I suppose, but does anybody know how long the BSOD lasted at the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremonies? Of course on TV we only saw a momentary BSOD and then a cut and the ceremonies resumed immediately, but in the actual stadium, we don't know how long the hiatus was or how long everybody sat there twiddling their thumbs while they frantically pushed ctl+alt+del over and over and over—girly-running too, for all I know.
If it were anybody but Microsoft, you think NBC would have covered up for them like that?
Sinofski will be gone by June 2013!
Bad, bad job!
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Originally Posted by snova
I agree with you 100% bravo! as an aside, I actually agree with both Apple's and Microsoft's criticisms about each others products. One is mostly recreational and the other is mostly compromising and confusing.
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Originally Posted by Eluard
Apple should now have the noblesse oblige to not talk Microsoft products down. If you talk your opponents down you sound weak and a little childish. Samsung is another matter — less business rivals, more IP thieves wearing masks and carrying a bag marked 'swag'. But Microsoft have gone out of their way to differentiate the look of their tablet from the iPad. They deserve some props for that.
Apple didn't actually talk their product down. Tim was ask his opinion during their earnings call and he just quoted a couple of reviewers. So technically, those weren't his words.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
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Originally Posted by mstone
I'm sticking with CentOS. Pretty much the same as Sun OS 4 from 1994 when I first got into this gig.
I've used Red Hat over the years and use some version of Linux at work and elsewhere in many iterations, including on Citrix XenServer for many VMs of varying types, but I've never used CentOS.
CentOS is Red Hat. Because Red Hat is open sourced licensed they have to publish the source code so CentOS just republishes it free. It is the same as Red Hat EL without the branding or the service contract. It is the most popular flavor of Linux by a large margin, especially for commercial use.
He said $279 Win8 Laptop.
IOW an Atom/AMD powered Netbook with no touchscreen (likely a crappy TN screen and small rotating HD).
The exact same thing everyone said would kill the iPad when it debuted in 2010.
100 Million iPads/275000 dedicated applications later and he is still using an answer that was foolish in 2010?
Netbooks. Really? That's the best you got?
I don't think Netbooks really compete with iPads.
But you know what that $279 Netbook with real windows, certainly competes with a $600 Surface, that doesn't run real windows applications, and has a floppy membrane keyboard that makes the netbooks look like an expensive mechanical in comparison.
Yay Surface RT, You can spend sub $300 for real windows, with a real keyboards and real applications. Or you can get a surface for more than double the price, half the performance, membrane keyboard, and almost no applications.
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Microsoft was beating the crowd back with sticks in Century City!
Love your photography.
In this shot, you really managed to capture the desolation well.
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Originally Posted by Snowdog65
He can't be talking about Surface. It's $499 minimum and runs RT.
He said $279 Win8 Laptop.
IOW an Atom/AMD powered Netbook with no touchscreen (likely a crappy TN screen and small rotating HD).
The exact same thing everyone said would kill the iPad when it debuted in 2010.
100 Million iPads/275000 dedicated applications later and he is still using an answer that was foolish in 2010?
Netbooks. Really? That's the best you got?
The Surface is a netbook—just a lot worse, for twice the price.
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Originally Posted by MJ Web
Microsoft was beating the crowd back with sticks in Century City!
Love your photography.
In this shot, you really managed to capture the desolation well.
I know right? Put out a sign that says "Line Starts Here" there's supposed to be a line right?
Love all the awesome...and RIGHT ON...responses!!!
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Originally Posted by _Rick_V_
yeah, RIM tried that tactic when they promoted their "Playbook", calling the iPad a toy compared to theirs.
...
Didn't work out too well for them either.
When you look at how the iPad is often used recreationally, it's kind of like the OLD Apple quip that; "Sure Macs aren't any good at games, but people use them to get work done." Do they not understand their target market?
It's like promoting XBox for presentations, and all games were forced to use bullet points.
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Originally Posted by mstone
I know right? Put out a sign that says "Line Starts Here" there's supposed to be a line right?
That can't be VIP access to stop normal people, that rope is obviously meant to stop Leprechauns, Lawn Gnomes and Little Fairies. No wonder it looks so vacant.
When you target the people who would "enjoy the Windows experience on a tablet" -- you might be looking for repeat customers of the Zune, or Unicorns.