... because you either already have a job, or a spouse/partner who has one, or are independently wealthy...
Stop this nonsense already.
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...but a lot of people need jobs to live.
Including me.
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And thus the idea of creating more work in America is not some kind of "fetish" that people have, but a serious daily need for their survival and a means of helping to improve the overall economy.
No the fetish is about specific kinds of jobs, in this case manufacturing jobs. There are tons of jobs in the US.
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It is the height of myopic self-interest to not understand that, and to be so utterly unsympathetic to people who are unemployed, simply because you personally don't need a job (right now).
I do understand. I'm not unsympathetic to those who are unemployed. My position has nothing to do whether I currently have a job or not.
Your analysis is quite simplistic, superficial and short-sighted.
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Some day you could need one, and not be able to find it (especially if you were born in 1970), because of people like yourself who don't care about the plight of others. Then we'll see whether "bringing jobs here" is of any concern to you ...
If I can't find a job it will be not be for these reasons.
Ive is taking over MANAGEMENT of software design not designing the software. Neither did Jobs. Good taste is what a good designer brings to the table. Of course, I also suspect he personally didn't design the 3D either. Early on, yes, but he has been managing that design group and asking the questions, pushing, etc. I see no problem here.
I reckon Jony Ive can still do some mean stuff a few hours hands-on in front of the computer using his favourite 3D program.
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Originally Posted by Beezlegrunk
... because you either already have a job, or a spouse/partner who has one, or are independently wealthy...
Stop this nonsense already.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezlegrunk
...but a lot of people need jobs to live.
Including me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezlegrunk
And thus the idea of creating more work in America is not some kind of "fetish" that people have, but a serious daily need for their survival and a means of helping to improve the overall economy.
No the fetish is about specific kinds of jobs, in this case manufacturing jobs. There are tons of jobs in the US.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezlegrunk
It is the height of myopic self-interest to not understand that, and to be so utterly unsympathetic to people who are unemployed, simply because you personally don't need a job (right now).
I do understand. I'm not unsympathetic to those who are unemployed. My position has nothing to do whether I currently have a job or not.
Your analysis is quite simplistic, superficial and short-sighted.
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Originally Posted by Beezlegrunk
Some day you could need one, and not be able to find it (especially if you were born in 1970), because of people like yourself who don't care about the plight of others. Then we'll see whether "bringing jobs here" is of any concern to you ...
If I can't find a job it will be not be for these reasons.
I reckon Jony Ive can still do some mean stuff a few hours hands-on in front of the computer using his favourite 3D program.