Whether you believe it or not you cannot justify that there is a 4% increase on intention to buy and a 10% increase on retention rate because of the difference in screen size. There is simply no data to support your opinion as fact.
And lets also remember this is the 5th phone that had a subsidy. IOW, the iPhone 5 is the start of the 3rd two-year cycle for many buyers. I'm not sure what that means for buyers but it should be considered that most probably aren't buying a new iPhone every year and that a new case design has more "newness" over using the same case design for a 2nd cycle.
Also remember there is nothing to prove that I am not right.
Also remember there is nothing to prove that I am not right.
Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions? You might as well argue for Pastafarianism but note you are then suggesting your positions should be taken as faith, not fact.
2. Take the differences between the 4 and 4S and the 4S and 5. Add them all up and you've only got 2 real differences when comparing the 3 models, one over the other (ie. the processor was as different in the 4 to 4S as the from the 4S to the 5 etc.) Yes, lighter and thinner could be one of the real differences but "I" "believe" that it was the difference of .5" that made the real difference.
I agree and I also believe that's why there was an increase in interest for the "free" iPhone, the 4 this year.
Last year when the 3GS was the free phone it obviously looked 3 years old, but this year pretty much all the iPhones for sale have a uniform look and feel.
So to average consumer this year you really can get an "iPhone at any price." We all know there are technical differences but to the average person the only difference between the 4 and 4S is Siri and $99.
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Originally Posted by starbird73
My sister in law said her sister in law is getting my niece a 4 and paying the first year of service for Christmas. I said, "really? The free phone? Couldn't just swing to the $47 4S?
It is about time that we Americans stop being fixated with 'free' phones and high monthly rates. I am hoping the tmobile plan next year disrupts the industry.
This is proof most consumers are clueless of the difference between the "entry-level" iPhones.
I honestly think next year Apple will keep the iPhone 4 around and sell it for $299 off contract. At that point we'll have four same looking iPhones for sale at various prices (4/4S/5/5S).
Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions? You might as well argue for Pastafarianism but note you are then suggesting your positions should be taken as faith, not fact.
You are the one arguing against me. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions?
... and yet you have nothing substantial to prove me wrong. Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make.
Couldn't another argument be made that it's the best seller due to the upgrade cycle? It's technically the 6th iPhone and most contracts are typically 2 years. Thus, this would be the third upgrade for many people who bought the original iPhone.
I honestly think next year Apple will keep the iPhone 4 around and sell it for $299 off contract. At that point we'll have four same looking iPhones for sale at various prices (4/4S/5/5S).
I think Apple has to do one better than a 5S... if the differences between the 5 and 5S are comparable to the differences between the 4 and 4S.
I'm not sure where the cycle has to end but I don't believe for a minute that Samsung is going to let its foot off the gas. The drop off in sales in the 4th quarter could increase YoY, especially in 2014.
You are the one arguing against me. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions?
... and yet you have nothing substantial to prove me wrong. Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make.
1) You stated, "I''m saying that the increase in percentage of people opting for the new device is because of the 4" screen." You have no evidence to back your claim yet you state it as such. You don't even allow any other reason for the increase in percentage to be attributed to any other feature the iPhone 5 has or simply the popularity of the platform itself. You've pull all increased interest on the increase in display size.
2) I have clearly shown that you don't have evidence to support your desire for it to be true. My argument isn't that you are not correct, my argument is that you have no evidence to support your desire that you are correct. I don't have to prove your flying spaghetti monster isn't real all I have to do is show that your belief in a flying spaghetti monster is just that, a belief, until you can show proof to the contrary.
I think Apple has to do one better than a 5S... if the differences between the 5 and 5S are comparable to the differences between the 4 and 4S.
I'm not sure where the cycle has to end but I don't believe for a minute that Samsung is going to let its foot off the gas. The drop off in sales in the 4th quarter could increase YoY, especially in 2014.
I think a 5S would suffice if it has a special hardware feature such as NFC. As far as iPhone hardware not much else can be done that would impress people. The 4 inch screen and LTE were the las big things Apple was missing and now that the 5 has that everything else is just gravy.
The biggest upgrades for the iPhone I see necessary are software upgrades. iOS needs an overhaul in much the same way Apple gave iTunes an overhaul.
For sales, if Apple really wants to make a splash in the phone industry, they have to look at the low end just like they did with the iPad Mini. They already own the high end but they need something new and special on the low end.
I have to agree with you. I personally think that Apple should make at least 2 different screen sizes having the 4 inch as one and then another at around 4.5 or 4.6. I think there is enough market demand for a larger sized screen, but they have to be careful not to make it too big. I think 4.8 is too big, and 5 inch is just, well, dumb looking. I could see Apple eventually coming out with a 5.5in tablet or something like an iPad micro.
I took a look of Samsung S3 and Note 2 this Sunday. They are too big. I think they are just a niche or fad. The main purpose of a smartphone for majority users are still a mobile phone. My friend bought a used Lumia 820 with 4.3" screen. He insists that its size is no problem. But I noticed that he starts wearing a pant with two side pocket on the legs and he puts the phone in there. LOL
I don't see Apple making a tablet any smaller. I have the iPad mini, and anything smaller wouldn't work at all for iPad-centric apps. You'd be forced into the huge majority of Android type of tablet apps - stretched-out phone apps. No thanks.
never say never, but I agree. There will be 3 form factors. Pant Pocket (iPhone/Touch, Coat/bathrobe Pocket (mini), and Brief/backback (iPad).
Once the mini is Retinized, that will give developers 3 simple sizes to optimize for, rather than the 800 form factors of android.
Long term, a 15" -17" retina iPad will may make it's way into the world, but I see that as the 'pro' version, and not a consumer device.
I think a 5S would suffice if it has a special hardware feature such as NFC.
NFC would not be possible in this current design, according to AnandTech. The metal back makes it difficult for the NFC to create it's loop. Of course, Apple could use a different material and it surely doesn't have to use the same design for two full cycles, but so far that is the pattern we've seen twice before.
I think a 5S would suffice if it has a special hardware feature such as NFC. As far as iPhone hardware not much else can be done that would impress people. The 4 inch screen and LTE were the las big things Apple was missing and now that the 5 has that everything else is just gravy.
The biggest upgrades for the iPhone I see necessary are software upgrades. iOS needs an overhaul in much the same way Apple gave iTunes an overhaul.
For sales, if Apple really wants to make a splash in the phone industry, they have to look at the low end just like they did with the iPad Mini. They already own the high end but they need something new and special on the low end.
Piling on, NFC still hasn't hit critical mass, and I do think Apple will want to steer to Passbook and use scanners (more ubiquitous).
NFC has to hit a couple more security points before it should be utilized by the masses.
Prior to all that, I think the addition of biometric security on the touchscreen (fingerprint/capillary recognition) will be the 'next big' HW thing. Pin + fingerprint (five moves to unlock) and an unlock with a fingerprint to permit payment (NFC, Bluetooth, PassBook scan of your Apple iTunes debit account) is as good as it gets for simple transactions.
You are the one arguing against me. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions?
... and yet you have nothing substantial to prove me wrong. Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make.
huh? Sure, what you're saying is plausible, but there is no evidence (presented here or that I've seen) showing that the screen increase was the reason. Just because there isn't evidence disproving your theory doesn'tmeanit'sright. Plus, you're working with people who tend to weigh the pros and cons of many factors, not just one, which is why Soli's POV is a bit more believable without evidence.
For example, I held off from upgrading because I get my full subsidy with the iPhone 5 and I wanted a new design; the screen size is a moot detail since I prefer smaller form size over a larger screen. And while I am just one individual over hundreds of thousands with iPhone 5's, I doubt my opinion is lost to those who solely wanted the iPhone 5 for a larger screen.
1) You stated, "I''m saying that the increase in percentage of people opting for the new device is because of the 4" screen." You have no evidence to back your claim yet you state it as such. You don't even allow any other reason for the increase in percentage to be attributed to any other feature the iPhone 5 has or simply the popularity of the platform itself. You've pull all increased interest on the increase in display size.
2) I have clearly shown that you don't have evidence to support your desire for it to be true. My argument isn't that you are not correct, my argument is that you have no evidence to support your desire that you are correct. I don't have to prove your flying spaghetti monster isn't real all I have to do is show that your belief in a flying spaghetti monster is just that, a belief, until you can show proof to the contrary.
... and I changed my statement to show that it is my belief.
So you're just blowing smoke up everyone's ass at this point by arguing that I am absolutely wrong... at least I didn't see anything that supports my theory... anything that says, " you could be right."
... and I changed my statement to show that it is my belief.
So you're just blowing smoke up everyone's ass at this point by arguing that I am absolutely wrong... at least I didn't see anything that supports my theory... anything that says, " you could be right."
So why not apologize for making a false claim and note your change instead of trying to make claims that I need to prove something I never argued? Again, I never said you are absolutely wrong, I merely stated that you can't prove what you are claiming as fact. As previously stated, every gained percentage YoY (and then sum) could be because they added 0.5" to the display, but there is simply no evidence to support that. Why are having so much trouble being logical and accurate? Usually you are.
I try not to make balanced and logical comments that avoid an absolutes. Sometimes I fall short. I would hope when I do you would point it out to me.
So why not apologize for making a false claim and note your change instead of trying to make claims that I need to prove something I never argued? Again, I never said you are absolutely wrong, I merely stated that you can't prove what you are claiming as fact. As previously stated, every gained percentage YoY (and then sum) could be because they added 0.5" to the display, but there is simply no evidence to support that. Why are having so much trouble being logical and accurate? Usually you are.
I am being logical and accurate. I changed my statement. I said so. No need for an apology. Why don't you come right out and say that I could be right. It's only a big fucking deal in your mind.
Piling on, NFC still hasn't hit critical mass, and I do think Apple will want to steer to Passbook and use scanners (more ubiquitous).
NFC has to hit a couple more security points before it should be utilized by the masses.
Prior to all that, I think the addition of biometric security on the touchscreen (fingerprint/capillary recognition) will be the 'next big' HW thing. Pin + fingerprint (five moves to unlock) and an unlock with a fingerprint to permit payment (NFC, Bluetooth, PassBook scan of your Apple iTunes debit account) is as good as it gets for simple transactions.
Passbook hasn't taken off either, and I believe that's partially because it's inconvenient and relatively hard to use for a novice user.
Apple needs an easy to use payment and card system that gets massive levels of support from retailers in order to have another tech revolution in smart phones. I think security will be essential for that system but security alone won't be the "next big" HW upgrade.
Security plus wallet features will come hand in hand and together will be the next big thing.
Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions? You might as well argue for Pastafarianism but note you are then suggesting your positions should be taken as faith, not fact.
NFC would not be possible in this current design, according to AnandTech. The metal back makes it difficult for the NFC to create it's loop. Of course, Apple could use a different material and it surely doesn't have to use the same design for two full cycles, but so far that is the pattern we've seen twice before.
Without NFC I can't imagine Apple just adding faster chips to the 5S and expecting people to be impressed. The iPhone is fast enough already and it's time for Apple to think outside the box on upgrades.
But I believe like with the iPad the "Premium" iPhone is reaching a plateau and Apple's biggest opportunies will come from new lower end hardware (ala iPad Mini), and software (completely reimagined iOS)
Without NFC I can't imagine Apple just adding faster chips to the 5S and expecting people to be impressed. The iPhone is fast enough already and it's time for Apple to think outside the box on upgrades.
But I believe like with the iPad the "Premium" iPhone is reaching a plateau and Apple's biggest opportunies will come from new lower end hardware (ala iPad Mini), and software (completely reimagined iOS)
1) If we assume they'll follow the same pattern of keeping the same case design for the 5S and they will include NFC one solution could be to make the back panel out of RF transparent LiquidMetal. Is that in any way practical? Is LiquidMetal finally ready for primetime? Is NFC finally ready for Apple to step in and make it something that everyone finally want and uses? Is a redesign likely after one iteration? Are there other viable solutions not yet stated?
2) I think the iPhone can improve in performance in many areas. Going with a full Cortex-A15-like CPU, wider memory bandwidth like in the iPad 3 and 4, Rogue 6 GPU, faster LTE and WiFi (by an additional antenna and/or 802.11ac), and perhaps most important, faster NAND, which could also allow for the Thunderbolt connector to send/receive much faster simply by using faster NAND.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Whether you believe it or not you cannot justify that there is a 4% increase on intention to buy and a 10% increase on retention rate because of the difference in screen size. There is simply no data to support your opinion as fact.
And lets also remember this is the 5th phone that had a subsidy. IOW, the iPhone 5 is the start of the 3rd two-year cycle for many buyers. I'm not sure what that means for buyers but it should be considered that most probably aren't buying a new iPhone every year and that a new case design has more "newness" over using the same case design for a 2nd cycle.
Also remember there is nothing to prove that I am not right.
Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions? You might as well argue for Pastafarianism but note you are then suggesting your positions should be taken as faith, not fact.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
2. Take the differences between the 4 and 4S and the 4S and 5. Add them all up and you've only got 2 real differences when comparing the 3 models, one over the other (ie. the processor was as different in the 4 to 4S as the from the 4S to the 5 etc.) Yes, lighter and thinner could be one of the real differences but "I" "believe" that it was the difference of .5" that made the real difference.
I agree and I also believe that's why there was an increase in interest for the "free" iPhone, the 4 this year.
Last year when the 3GS was the free phone it obviously looked 3 years old, but this year pretty much all the iPhones for sale have a uniform look and feel.
So to average consumer this year you really can get an "iPhone at any price." We all know there are technical differences but to the average person the only difference between the 4 and 4S is Siri and $99.
Quote:
Originally Posted by starbird73
My sister in law said her sister in law is getting my niece a 4 and paying the first year of service for Christmas. I said, "really? The free phone? Couldn't just swing to the $47 4S?
It is about time that we Americans stop being fixated with 'free' phones and high monthly rates. I am hoping the tmobile plan next year disrupts the industry.
This is proof most consumers are clueless of the difference between the "entry-level" iPhones.
I honestly think next year Apple will keep the iPhone 4 around and sell it for $299 off contract. At that point we'll have four same looking iPhones for sale at various prices (4/4S/5/5S).
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions? You might as well argue for Pastafarianism but note you are then suggesting your positions should be taken as faith, not fact.
You are the one arguing against me. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions?
... and yet you have nothing substantial to prove me wrong. Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make.
Couldn't another argument be made that it's the best seller due to the upgrade cycle? It's technically the 6th iPhone and most contracts are typically 2 years. Thus, this would be the third upgrade for many people who bought the original iPhone.
Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by blackbook
I honestly think next year Apple will keep the iPhone 4 around and sell it for $299 off contract. At that point we'll have four same looking iPhones for sale at various prices (4/4S/5/5S).
I think Apple has to do one better than a 5S... if the differences between the 5 and 5S are comparable to the differences between the 4 and 4S.
I'm not sure where the cycle has to end but I don't believe for a minute that Samsung is going to let its foot off the gas. The drop off in sales in the 4th quarter could increase YoY, especially in 2014.
1) You stated, "I''m saying that the increase in percentage of people opting for the new device is because of the 4" screen." You have no evidence to back your claim yet you state it as such. You don't even allow any other reason for the increase in percentage to be attributed to any other feature the iPhone 5 has or simply the popularity of the platform itself. You've pull all increased interest on the increase in display size.
2) I have clearly shown that you don't have evidence to support your desire for it to be true. My argument isn't that you are not correct, my argument is that you have no evidence to support your desire that you are correct. I don't have to prove your flying spaghetti monster isn't real all I have to do is show that your belief in a flying spaghetti monster is just that, a belief, until you can show proof to the contrary.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
I think Apple has to do one better than a 5S... if the differences between the 5 and 5S are comparable to the differences between the 4 and 4S.
I'm not sure where the cycle has to end but I don't believe for a minute that Samsung is going to let its foot off the gas. The drop off in sales in the 4th quarter could increase YoY, especially in 2014.
I think a 5S would suffice if it has a special hardware feature such as NFC. As far as iPhone hardware not much else can be done that would impress people. The 4 inch screen and LTE were the las big things Apple was missing and now that the 5 has that everything else is just gravy.
The biggest upgrades for the iPhone I see necessary are software upgrades. iOS needs an overhaul in much the same way Apple gave iTunes an overhaul.
For sales, if Apple really wants to make a splash in the phone industry, they have to look at the low end just like they did with the iPad Mini. They already own the high end but they need something new and special on the low end.
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Originally Posted by drblank
I have to agree with you. I personally think that Apple should make at least 2 different screen sizes having the 4 inch as one and then another at around 4.5 or 4.6. I think there is enough market demand for a larger sized screen, but they have to be careful not to make it too big. I think 4.8 is too big, and 5 inch is just, well, dumb looking. I could see Apple eventually coming out with a 5.5in tablet or something like an iPad micro.
I took a look of Samsung S3 and Note 2 this Sunday. They are too big. I think they are just a niche or fad. The main purpose of a smartphone for majority users are still a mobile phone. My friend bought a used Lumia 820 with 4.3" screen. He insists that its size is no problem. But I noticed that he starts wearing a pant with two side pocket on the legs and he puts the phone in there. LOL
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Originally Posted by RedGeminiPA
I don't see Apple making a tablet any smaller. I have the iPad mini, and anything smaller wouldn't work at all for iPad-centric apps. You'd be forced into the huge majority of Android type of tablet apps - stretched-out phone apps. No thanks.
never say never, but I agree. There will be 3 form factors. Pant Pocket (iPhone/Touch, Coat/bathrobe Pocket (mini), and Brief/backback (iPad).
Once the mini is Retinized, that will give developers 3 simple sizes to optimize for, rather than the 800 form factors of android.
Long term, a 15" -17" retina iPad will may make it's way into the world, but I see that as the 'pro' version, and not a consumer device.
NFC would not be possible in this current design, according to AnandTech. The metal back makes it difficult for the NFC to create it's loop. Of course, Apple could use a different material and it surely doesn't have to use the same design for two full cycles, but so far that is the pattern we've seen twice before.
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Originally Posted by blackbook
I think a 5S would suffice if it has a special hardware feature such as NFC. As far as iPhone hardware not much else can be done that would impress people. The 4 inch screen and LTE were the las big things Apple was missing and now that the 5 has that everything else is just gravy.
The biggest upgrades for the iPhone I see necessary are software upgrades. iOS needs an overhaul in much the same way Apple gave iTunes an overhaul.
For sales, if Apple really wants to make a splash in the phone industry, they have to look at the low end just like they did with the iPad Mini. They already own the high end but they need something new and special on the low end.
Piling on, NFC still hasn't hit critical mass, and I do think Apple will want to steer to Passbook and use scanners (more ubiquitous).
NFC has to hit a couple more security points before it should be utilized by the masses.
Prior to all that, I think the addition of biometric security on the touchscreen (fingerprint/capillary recognition) will be the 'next big' HW thing. Pin + fingerprint (five moves to unlock) and an unlock with a fingerprint to permit payment (NFC, Bluetooth, PassBook scan of your Apple iTunes debit account) is as good as it gets for simple transactions.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
You are the one arguing against me. Don't you want to be as scientific and accurate as possible in your deductions?
... and yet you have nothing substantial to prove me wrong. Absence of evidence does not a valid argument make.
huh? Sure, what you're saying is plausible, but there is no evidence (presented here or that I've seen) showing that the screen increase was the reason. Just because there isn't evidence disproving your theory doesn't mean it's right. Plus, you're working with people who tend to weigh the pros and cons of many factors, not just one, which is why Soli's POV is a bit more believable without evidence.
For example, I held off from upgrading because I get my full subsidy with the iPhone 5 and I wanted a new design; the screen size is a moot detail since I prefer smaller form size over a larger screen. And while I am just one individual over hundreds of thousands with iPhone 5's, I doubt my opinion is lost to those who solely wanted the iPhone 5 for a larger screen.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) You stated, "I''m saying that the increase in percentage of people opting for the new device is because of the 4" screen." You have no evidence to back your claim yet you state it as such. You don't even allow any other reason for the increase in percentage to be attributed to any other feature the iPhone 5 has or simply the popularity of the platform itself. You've pull all increased interest on the increase in display size.
2) I have clearly shown that you don't have evidence to support your desire for it to be true. My argument isn't that you are not correct, my argument is that you have no evidence to support your desire that you are correct. I don't have to prove your flying spaghetti monster isn't real all I have to do is show that your belief in a flying spaghetti monster is just that, a belief, until you can show proof to the contrary.
... and I changed my statement to show that it is my belief.
So you're just blowing smoke up everyone's ass at this point by arguing that I am absolutely wrong... at least I didn't see anything that supports my theory... anything that says, " you could be right."
So why not apologize for making a false claim and note your change instead of trying to make claims that I need to prove something I never argued? Again, I never said you are absolutely wrong, I merely stated that you can't prove what you are claiming as fact. As previously stated, every gained percentage YoY (and then sum) could be because they added 0.5" to the display, but there is simply no evidence to support that. Why are having so much trouble being logical and accurate? Usually you are.
I try not to make balanced and logical comments that avoid an absolutes. Sometimes I fall short. I would hope when I do you would point it out to me.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
So why not apologize for making a false claim and note your change instead of trying to make claims that I need to prove something I never argued? Again, I never said you are absolutely wrong, I merely stated that you can't prove what you are claiming as fact. As previously stated, every gained percentage YoY (and then sum) could be because they added 0.5" to the display, but there is simply no evidence to support that. Why are having so much trouble being logical and accurate? Usually you are.
I am being logical and accurate. I changed my statement. I said so. No need for an apology. Why don't you come right out and say that I could be right. It's only a big fucking deal in your mind.
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Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff
Piling on, NFC still hasn't hit critical mass, and I do think Apple will want to steer to Passbook and use scanners (more ubiquitous).
NFC has to hit a couple more security points before it should be utilized by the masses.
Prior to all that, I think the addition of biometric security on the touchscreen (fingerprint/capillary recognition) will be the 'next big' HW thing. Pin + fingerprint (five moves to unlock) and an unlock with a fingerprint to permit payment (NFC, Bluetooth, PassBook scan of your Apple iTunes debit account) is as good as it gets for simple transactions.
Passbook hasn't taken off either, and I believe that's partially because it's inconvenient and relatively hard to use for a novice user.
Apple needs an easy to use payment and card system that gets massive levels of support from retailers in order to have another tech revolution in smart phones. I think security will be essential for that system but security alone won't be the "next big" HW upgrade.
Security plus wallet features will come hand in hand and together will be the next big thing.
Is that a Jamaican with spaghetti for dreads?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
NFC would not be possible in this current design, according to AnandTech. The metal back makes it difficult for the NFC to create it's loop. Of course, Apple could use a different material and it surely doesn't have to use the same design for two full cycles, but so far that is the pattern we've seen twice before.
Without NFC I can't imagine Apple just adding faster chips to the 5S and expecting people to be impressed. The iPhone is fast enough already and it's time for Apple to think outside the box on upgrades.
But I believe like with the iPad the "Premium" iPhone is reaching a plateau and Apple's biggest opportunies will come from new lower end hardware (ala iPad Mini), and software (completely reimagined iOS)
1) If we assume they'll follow the same pattern of keeping the same case design for the 5S and they will include NFC one solution could be to make the back panel out of RF transparent LiquidMetal. Is that in any way practical? Is LiquidMetal finally ready for primetime? Is NFC finally ready for Apple to step in and make it something that everyone finally want and uses? Is a redesign likely after one iteration? Are there other viable solutions not yet stated?
2) I think the iPhone can improve in performance in many areas. Going with a full Cortex-A15-like CPU, wider memory bandwidth like in the iPad 3 and 4, Rogue 6 GPU, faster LTE and WiFi (by an additional antenna and/or 802.11ac), and perhaps most important, faster NAND, which could also allow for the Thunderbolt connector to send/receive much faster simply by using faster NAND.