Samsung teases CES unveiling of HDTV with 'unprecedented new shape'

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  • Reply 81 of 217
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    ironted wrote: »
    No developers would want to develop for a forked Android.

    What is that forked version was on over half the devices? What if that forked version was mostly a way for developers could protect themselves from thieves. What if customers knew that apps in this forked version's app store were unlikely to be scam apps that stole your data, were not what they said they were, or had viruses in them?

    Samsung could do just that and likely ruin the possibility that other Android-based vendors of making any advancement and Samsung could do it without resisting access to any regular Android app if the user still insisted. It would essentially be no different than getting apps in and outside the Mac App Store and using Gatekeeper to help protect your device.

    Note that Samsung already has APIs for their Galaxy Note's Wacom digitizer. Not exactly a smoking gun but it could be seen as the first brick.

    I'd never take anything other than a friendly wager. No need for a gift card, Soli. Have a great New Year!

    If wen the hand strikes midnight my prediction has failed to materialize I insist on the original payment. Don't let me go into the New Year squelching on a bet.
  • Reply 82 of 217
    davendaven Posts: 705member
    It will be a square with rounded corners!
  • Reply 83 of 217


    It will be something using this technology:


     


    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43951/samsung-transparent-smart-windows-display


     


    Probably glass top, no bezel and all the engine in a sound like bar at the bottom.

  • Reply 84 of 217
    Cute commercial. Despite Samsung's questionable business practices with regards to piggybacking off of Apple, they sure are serious about being serious! And they are definitely operating at a much quicker rate than Apple, which does give them an edge.
  • Reply 85 of 217


    Probably a TV with no bezel, glass screen with the electronics at the base using this technology (or derivative improvement on):


     


    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43951/samsung-transparent-smart-windows-display

  • Reply 86 of 217


    Originally Posted by coolfactor View Post

    And they are definitely operating at a much quicker rate than Apple, which does give them an edge.


     


    A jagged edge, facing downward. It's basically like what happens to your aerodynamics if your muffler falls from its housing and drags under your vehicle. Or your engine.

  • Reply 87 of 217
    Slow news day. The article has nothing to do with Apple.
  • Reply 88 of 217
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member


    When I heard the "gallery" comment I thought it might be one of those roll-up TVs, in the same way you can roll up a painting. But looking at the ad it seems when it lights up at the end it's not the screen coming on, but the stage lights (because the stairs behind the TV light up too), which makes me think it's see-through (as others have already mentioned). That would not be a new shape though unless you regard see-through as "no shape."


     


    I don't know why TC keeps dropping hints about an Apple TV set. Do people really watch TV that much any more? I thought Apple was about skating to where the puck is going.

  • Reply 89 of 217
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Slow news day. The article has nothing to do with Apple.

    Not directly, but lets remember back to late 2009 when there were all these rumours about the iTablet floating around and all these new tablets hitting CES. Now we have Samsung teasing a new TV and rumours of Intel pimping a set-top box, both of which I've never seen before.

    I think these are perfect good reasons to add this to speculation about Apple may or may not do. Personally, I don't know if we'll see a TV from Apple but it seems odd that they have updated so many products recently that it will leave a Spring gap that previously had been held by the iPad. I think we may very well see a whole product category from Apple early this year (not taking bets).
  • Reply 90 of 217
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,778member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    Any idea on what is new? Thinner? Smaller bezel (although that doesn't really refer to shape)? I'm stumped.
    It could always fork Android. Imagine Samsung with their own vetted app store that also allows Google Play titles as the user sees fit. i thin that could be a powerful combination that could hurt every other vendor using Android.
    :lol:

    Hey congrats on becoming a Mogul Gaberator. :smokey:
  • Reply 91 of 217
    ironted wrote: »
    No developers would want to develop for a forked Android.

    So, basically what you're saying is that google pays lip service to open source movement to get street cred with geek developers who then collectivity dismiss the diversity of open source, presumably for commercial reasons. Nice. Richard Stallman can shake his angry fists at all of them.
  • Reply 92 of 217
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    ascii wrote: »
    When I heard the "gallery" comment I thought it might be one of those roll-up TVs, in the same way you can roll up a painting. But looking at the ad it seems when it lights up at the end it's not the screen coming on, but the stage lights (because the stairs behind the TV light up too), which makes me think it's see-through (as others have already mentioned). That would not be a new shape though unless you regard see-through as "no shape."

    I don't know why TC keeps dropping hints about an Apple TV set. Do people really watch TV that much any more? I thought Apple was about skating to where the puck is going.

    WHat benefit does a see-through TV offer? I certainly don't want to see behind my TV and I don't want any light from behind it to diffuse the image it's displaying. The see-through and curved displays in Avatar were neat but I don't see how they are practical unless they are for a protective screen with a heads-up display*.


    * I don't recall windshields like that in Avatar.


    edit: I just checked, they have the curved see-through displays before the windshield, not on them. Based on the ship's design and their need to touch elements near the display it makes sense.
  • Reply 93 of 217
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    WHat benefit does a see-through TV offer? I certainly don't want to see behind my TV and I don't want any light from behind it to diffuse the image it's displaying. The see-through and curved displays in Avatar were neat but I don't see how they are practical unless they are for a protective screen with a heads-up display*.

    * I don't recall windshields like that in Avatar.


    I agree, the only practical use seems for a heads up display/windshield.

  • Reply 94 of 217
    Well... So do I... I didn't mean more sense in general terms -- rather, more sense vis a vis Meg and Moonbeam...

    I voted for Meg, FWIW.

    I'm not completely sure, but I think I voted for Meg as well... I thought you lived in NY?

    Pasadena -- 1949 - 1963
    Saratoga CA (Silicon Valley) -- 1973 -1990
    Pasadena -- 2001 - 2003
    SF East Bay (Forclosure Valley) -- 2003 - present

    So, I've seen CA Governers from Earl Warren, Goodie Knight, Pat Brown, Ronald Regan, Duke Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, the Governator... and Moonbeam (2 times).


    ...too much of anything!
  • Reply 95 of 217
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Pasadena -- 1949 - 1963
    Saratoga CA (Silicon Valley) -- 1973 -1990
    Pasadena -- 2001 - 2003
    SF East Bay (Forclosure Valley) -- 2003 - present
    So, I've seen CA Governers from Earl Warren, Goodie Knight, Pat Brown, Ronald Regan, Duke Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, the Governator... and Moonbeam (2 times).
    ...too much of anything!

    This might be the last thing I learn in 2012...
  • Reply 96 of 217
    solipsismx wrote: »
    WHat benefit does a see-through TV offer?

    Glad you asked. There are several benefits to transparent displays:
    1. Washed out blacks. The black level of the screen is the color of whatever is behind it.
    2. Multitasking. You can stack several displays and watch multiple shows at once.
    3. Magic fish bowl. You can finally find a use for those tacky aquarium screen savers
    4. Impress geek friends who carry supersized android fonz. Seriously, nothing impresses geeks more than excess displays of impractical novelty tech.
  • Reply 97 of 217
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Yes but how? The iPod worked because people already had large CD libraries they could rip into iTunes and many were stealing music. That gave Apple time to get deals with the music industry. No such luxury with a television.

    Very true.... music and television are very different industries.

    I just feel confident that IF something can be done to revolutionize television... Apple would be able to do something before some random electronics manufacturer.

    Or... nothing can be done at all... and this is all a bunch of nonsense. In which case Apple has every TV manufacturer scrambling to come up with something new... while Apple sits back and laughs :)

    Hell... look at Samsung: "we are launching a TV with an 'unprecedented new shape' at CES"

    A new shape? Awesome!

    I'm actually excited to see what Samsung has cooked up for CES. It will probably be great... for comedy :D
  • Reply 98 of 217
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post



    I just feel confident that IF something can be done to revolutionize television... Apple would be able to do something before some random electronics manufacturer.


    Samsung are a bit more than that. They are huge (biggest company in South Korea I believe) and they make pretty decent stuff. My fridge, microwave and PC monitor are all Sammy and never had any problems with them.


     


    I think the reason they copied the iPad was some kind of cultural difference which meant they didn't see anything wrong with it, but now that they have been successfully sued, I'm sure if they try to innovate they will be successful.

  • Reply 99 of 217
    "All TV's are rushing to see Samsungs"... Except Apple's!
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  • Reply 100 of 217
    ascii wrote: »
    Samsung are a bit more than that. They are huge (biggest company in South Korea I believe) and they make pretty decent stuff. My fridge, microwave and PC monitor are all Sammy and never had any problems with them.

    I think the reason they copied the iPad was some kind of cultural difference which meant they didn't see anything wrong with it, but now that they have been successfully sued, I'm sure if they try to innovate they will be successful.

    True... Samsung makes great devices. But read the article I linked earlier: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-Apple-iOS-Android-Ecosystem,19805.html

    Even a Samsung executive thinks most of their products are "device-centric." They're experienced by themselves. They're not experienced in a connected way.

    Your example of a fridge, microwave and PC monitor is the perfect example of what he was talking about in the article... a bunch of devices that have little to do with each other.

    My point was... Apple doesn't just make devices that stand alone, for the most part.

    Apple tries to combine everything into a cohesive universe... phone, tablet, computer, cloud.

    And yes... I realize Samsung has their own sort of cloud services too.

    I think we can agree that television will be a hard nut to crack... IF it can be done at all.

    The thing is... Apple already has a foot in a ton of different industries... music, movies, TV shows, apps, books, magazines, newspapers, etc.

    If the future of television will rely on content deals... Apple has a good foundation. A lot stronger than the Samsungs, LGs and Toshibas of the world.

    That's the difference I was trying to point out.

    But who knows... I'm just excited to see what's coming next from all these companies.
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