Hopefully Apple will release a big screen iPhone to sell alongside the iPhone 5. Personally I like the size of the 5 and even the 4S is fine for myself, but Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens. A 6" Retina iPhone could nip that trend in the bud.
I don't remember this many rumors or "knowledgable" information happening while Jobs was still alive. Is this because he would have gone after them with a hot poker or because analysts just don't care anymore what kind of garbage they spew.
There were more rumors back then. First the rumor of a new product, then the rumor that Steve Jobs threw a phone across a room and changed suppliers when he discovered the new product was leaked.
I still remember when ATI accidentally leaked the new video cards for a Mac before the official release. Jobs got so pissed he switched the line to Nvidia for a cycle. At least that was the rumor
There's clearly a market for larger display sizes, but since Apple doesn't offer one, Apple loses sales to large screen Android handsets that do. QED.
Now I wouldn't advocate Apple addressing every Android product offering with a corresponding one of its own, but it seems disingenuous to imply that there's not a sales consequence to that. I'd be very surprised if Apple were to introduce a larger display size of any kind; the big honkin' phone just isn't Apple's style.
A more interesting question is just what an iPhone 5S design would consist of. Faster? OK, but the 5 is pretty much state-of-the-art fast as it is. More RAM? The 5 doesn't seem to need it. SoC process shrink? OK, but that's not really something that users can perceive, except maybe in incremental battery life improvement. Up the ante to 128GB of storage? Fine, but that could be a running change that doesn't call for a new model series.
LTE is already here, NFC doesn't look like it's coming, and the iPhone 5 is already almost ridiculously thin. So what's on the tech horizon that could call for an iPhone 5S in a near horizon? IGZO display...?
OK. So now all the people who used to complain that Apple took too long between upgrades can start arguing that Apple must be doing poorly because they're now forced to upgrade their products more frequently. Another excuse to drive the stock down.
People will always complain. There's never a correct way for 100% of the people. IMO the yearly refresh is optimal
There's clearly a market for larger display sizes, but since Apple doesn't offer one, Apple loses sales to large screen Android handsets that do. QED.
Now I wouldn't advocate Apple addressing every Android product offering with a corresponding one of its own, but it seems disingenuous to imply that there's not a sales consequence to that. I'd be very surprised if Apple were to introduce a larger display size of any kind; the big honkin' phone just isn't Apple's style.
A more interesting question is just what an iPhone 5S design would consist of. Faster? OK, but the 5 is pretty much state-of-the-art fast as it is. More RAM? The 5 doesn't seem to need it. SoC process shrink? OK, but that's not really something that users can perceive, except maybe in incremental battery life improvement. Up the ante to 128GB of storage? Fine, but that could be a running change that doesn't call for a new model series.
LTE is already here, NFC doesn't look like it's coming, and the iPhone 5 is already almost ridiculously thin. So what's on the tech horizon that could call for an iPhone 5S in a near horizon? IGZO display...?
IGZO so probably record breaking battery life.
Hopefully HUGE upgrades to the OS as well. But I was thinking they could skip the 5S and just add a smaller and larger model this year.
The iPhone 5 can stay as is because its still an awesome phone for $199.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Apple unleashed a 3 inch phone in the summer and a surprise 5 inch model this fall?
So wait...Apple's going from a 4" phone to a 4.8" phone and they're already in the build stage? Where are all the prototypes/leaked cases of this device? Seems odd that we've seen no hardware related to this alleged larger phone (or the smaller/cheaper one for that matter). I mean if Wall Street analysts know about this device I have a hard time believing someone wouldn't be leaking cases.
Apple offers a larger screen, the cellular data iPad mini. AND there's no $^&*&^$# expensive voice contract which is great because, let's be real, how many people really want to hold some huge slab up against their heads?
Oh and it just went on sale in China: further tweaking China Mobile.
There's clearly a market for larger display sizes, but since Apple doesn't offer one, Apple loses sales to large screen Android handsets that do. QED.
Now I wouldn't advocate Apple addressing every Android product offering with a corresponding one of its own, but it seems disingenuous to imply that there's not a sales consequence to that. I'd be very surprised if Apple were to introduce a larger display size of any kind; the big honkin' phone just isn't Apple's style.
Apple might lose some sales because of larger screen offerings from Android vendors but "how many" is up for question.
Does Apple lose them because of the larger size or is it a matter of the price difference?
I'm guessing the vast majority is because of the price difference... but this has all been covered previously.
This isn't to say that I believe that Apple should not have a larger phone. As I've mentioned before; that would give Apple the ability to keep to a yearly release cycle but they could update each size at a different time (or offer two phone updates at the same time and another at a different time.).
For the umpteenth time, two times per year refreshes make little to no sense for iPhones that are stuck on two year contracts. Not enough people to buy both models.
I think Apple does need to go back to splitting up the release times for its products. It keeps interest year round and allows people time to save up for each different item.
Valid arguments can be made for both sides of the low cost and screen size debates. Apple will decide which they like better, however to blindly say one or the other side is wrong is shortsighted stupidity.
Apple might lose some sales because of larger screen offerings from Android vendors but "how many" is up for question.
Does Apple lose them because of the larger size or is it a matter of the price difference?
I'm guessing the vast majority is because of the price difference... but this has all been covered previously.
This isn't to say that I believe that Apple should not have a larger phone. As I've mentioned before; that would give Apple the ability to keep to a yearly release cycle but they could update each size at a different time (or offer two phone updates at the same time and another at a different time.).
Big screens are a differentiation strategy for companies that are not Apple. Apple doesn't need to be different from Apple. It just needs to be Apple.
LTE is already here, NFC doesn't look like it's coming, and the iPhone 5 is already almost ridiculously thin. So what's on the tech horizon that could call for an iPhone 5S in a near horizon? IGZO display...?
I wonder about this one. Granted, NFC isn't a perfect technology and doesn't solve all problems - but if every W8 and Android phone/tablet has NFC, plus all the major carriers backing ISIS, not to mention Google & others...doesn't Apple pretty much NEED to put NFC in the next phone?
Why would they bother, when the iPhone 5 is selling so poorly¡ They may as well give up on the iPhone altogether¡
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Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy
Doesn't the annoying sarcasm ever get old for you and every other member who constantly does it?
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dawg
Hopefully Apple will release a big screen iPhone to sell alongside the iPhone 5. Personally I like the size of the 5 and even the 4S is fine for myself, but Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens. A 6" Retina iPhone could nip that trend in the bud.
The sarcasm needs to continue to combat bullshit artists like Junkyard Dawg who make statements with absolutely no evidence to back it up.
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Hopefully Apple will release a big screen iPhone to sell alongside the iPhone 5. Personally I like the size of the 5 and even the 4S is fine for myself, but Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens. A 6" Retina iPhone could nip that trend in the bud.
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Originally Posted by rob53
I don't remember this many rumors or "knowledgable" information happening while Jobs was still alive. Is this because he would have gone after them with a hot poker or because analysts just don't care anymore what kind of garbage they spew.
There were more rumors back then. First the rumor of a new product, then the rumor that Steve Jobs threw a phone across a room and changed suppliers when he discovered the new product was leaked.
I still remember when ATI accidentally leaked the new video cards for a Mac before the official release. Jobs got so pissed he switched the line to Nvidia for a cycle. At least that was the rumor
Originally Posted by Junkyard Dawg
…Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens.
[citation needed]
A 6" Retina iPhone could nip that trend in the bud.
New. From Apple. The 30" iPhone. Because now the whiners will finally shut up.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
[citation needed]
There's clearly a market for larger display sizes, but since Apple doesn't offer one, Apple loses sales to large screen Android handsets that do. QED.
Now I wouldn't advocate Apple addressing every Android product offering with a corresponding one of its own, but it seems disingenuous to imply that there's not a sales consequence to that. I'd be very surprised if Apple were to introduce a larger display size of any kind; the big honkin' phone just isn't Apple's style.
A more interesting question is just what an iPhone 5S design would consist of. Faster? OK, but the 5 is pretty much state-of-the-art fast as it is. More RAM? The 5 doesn't seem to need it. SoC process shrink? OK, but that's not really something that users can perceive, except maybe in incremental battery life improvement. Up the ante to 128GB of storage? Fine, but that could be a running change that doesn't call for a new model series.
LTE is already here, NFC doesn't look like it's coming, and the iPhone 5 is already almost ridiculously thin. So what's on the tech horizon that could call for an iPhone 5S in a near horizon? IGZO display...?
I think it'll be smaller and function as an iPhone Mini.
I think next year we will see a 5 inch iPhone but I think Apple will have a 4 inch and 5 inch model (Classic and Plus).
People will always complain. There's never a correct way for 100% of the people. IMO the yearly refresh is optimal
IGZO so probably record breaking battery life.
Hopefully HUGE upgrades to the OS as well. But I was thinking they could skip the 5S and just add a smaller and larger model this year.
The iPhone 5 can stay as is because its still an awesome phone for $199.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Apple unleashed a 3 inch phone in the summer and a surprise 5 inch model this fall?
It would take everyone by surprise.
Originally Posted by blackbook
It would take everyone by surprise.
Not the word I'd use.
Apple offers a larger screen, the cellular data iPad mini. AND there's no $^&*&^$# expensive voice contract which is great because, let's be real, how many people really want to hold some huge slab up against their heads?
Oh and it just went on sale in China: further tweaking China Mobile.
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Originally Posted by NeilM
There's clearly a market for larger display sizes, but since Apple doesn't offer one, Apple loses sales to large screen Android handsets that do. QED.
Now I wouldn't advocate Apple addressing every Android product offering with a corresponding one of its own, but it seems disingenuous to imply that there's not a sales consequence to that. I'd be very surprised if Apple were to introduce a larger display size of any kind; the big honkin' phone just isn't Apple's style.
Apple might lose some sales because of larger screen offerings from Android vendors but "how many" is up for question.
Does Apple lose them because of the larger size or is it a matter of the price difference?
I'm guessing the vast majority is because of the price difference... but this has all been covered previously.
This isn't to say that I believe that Apple should not have a larger phone. As I've mentioned before; that would give Apple the ability to keep to a yearly release cycle but they could update each size at a different time (or offer two phone updates at the same time and another at a different time.).
I think Apple does need to go back to splitting up the release times for its products. It keeps interest year round and allows people time to save up for each different item.
Valid arguments can be made for both sides of the low cost and screen size debates. Apple will decide which they like better, however to blindly say one or the other side is wrong is shortsighted stupidity.
Big screens are a differentiation strategy for companies that are not Apple. Apple doesn't need to be different from Apple. It just needs to be Apple.
Posted before, but ok
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Originally Posted by NeilM
LTE is already here, NFC doesn't look like it's coming, and the iPhone 5 is already almost ridiculously thin. So what's on the tech horizon that could call for an iPhone 5S in a near horizon? IGZO display...?
I wonder about this one. Granted, NFC isn't a perfect technology and doesn't solve all problems - but if every W8 and Android phone/tablet has NFC, plus all the major carriers backing ISIS, not to mention Google & others...doesn't Apple pretty much NEED to put NFC in the next phone?
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Big screens are a differentiation strategy for companies that are not Apple. Apple doesn't need to be different from Apple. It just needs to be Apple.
Big screens are a differentiation strategy? Citation please.
People were asking for bigger screens and other companies made them and are now selling them in droves.
If what you say is true then the opposite could be said. Smaller screens. Poof! There goes the iPad Mini.
[I know the pain it would cause you if Apple started to sell even 15 to 20 million extra phones per quarter but you'll just have to grin and bear it]
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Why would they bother, when the iPhone 5 is selling so poorly¡ They may as well give up on the iPhone altogether¡
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Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy
Doesn't the annoying sarcasm ever get old for you and every other member who constantly does it?
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dawg
Hopefully Apple will release a big screen iPhone to sell alongside the iPhone 5. Personally I like the size of the 5 and even the 4S is fine for myself, but Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens. A 6" Retina iPhone could nip that trend in the bud.
The sarcasm needs to continue to combat bullshit artists like Junkyard Dawg who make statements with absolutely no evidence to back it up.
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Originally Posted by lkrupp
The sarcasm needs to continue to combat bullshit artists like Junkyard Dawg who make statements with absolutely no evidence to back it up.
What? Statements like" "but Apple are losing sales to 'Droids with big screens."
I'd say that is pretty much true. The reason might be up for debate.
As far as the 6" part... sure, silly idea in my opinion, but I've seen sillier things said by members who are considered "part of the club".