One of the things I love about google, they are not afraid to fail, and the bigger they fail the more they try.
Oh for those who says google doesnt innovate, ha. The web/cloud as we know it today is built off of Google's innovations in servers and server management. icould, facebook, wouldn't exist without the ground breaking work google has done on the server side.
So google, keep building your crazy fiber network, keep fighting for internet freedom, keep investing billions in green energy, keep building weird looking glasses. Every company has their culture, and Google culture of pie in the sky, internet is a right attitude is an important one in the tech industry.
I think everyone said it, can someone site a product which good Innovated themselves and I mean they did not buy the technology or another company.
Here is the only thing I can come up with, Street View and the car that drive themselves to create Street View, Again the probably got the self driving technology from other people or universities. I know there were universities competitions to make a car drive itself and much of what their first car look like came from those competitions.
I think Google just improved on what was already outer, search engine, web advertising, a web browser a mobile operating system, the list goes on, oh maybe google apps are their innovation, yeah but the such and do not work all that well. Honesty if you going to claim you are an innovater then your products should be better than the guy in front of you, and most of their product are still catching up.
His anticompetitive rant belies his and Schmidt's true beliefs: open up your privacy and be content with the resulting crap; after all, it's free! Their YouTube app is horrible and the non-standard player is a step backwards from Apple's 2007 app. Their Google labs projects and even gmail have humiliatingly bad interfaces, and the projects they push are all second-rate except Search. Even then, it's only the results that are impressive, their actual web pages are dog-slow bloated nonsense with odd behaviours; Google image search is still awful on both mac and iOS, loading completely unnecessary content and stuffing up what should be easy. There's no denying their genius in algorithmic finding of content, but they simply fail at everything else. Their ads are constantly tasteless or scammy, it shows their complete lack of discernment for even the "products" that make them dollars. And he talks about vision and innovation? What a joke.
Google Maps is amazing, so is google earth, gmail is still the best around, google now makes siri looks like childs play, and android is getting better day by day, chrome OS is the closest thing we have gotten to one laptop per child dream. Google is an AMAZING company with AMAZING talent. Google doesnt have to suck for apple to be great. I respect both companies for different reasons.
Google are about as innovative as my left testicle. Like Facebook, they are a glorified advertising company...
You are right on the money with this observation and I can't understand how anybody can think of Google any other way. Everything they do is about selling user information to advertisers.
"But it?s hard to find actual examples of really amazing things that happened solely due to competition," Page said. "How exciting is it to come to work if the best you can do is trounce some other company that does roughly the same thing?"
How interesting. I guess the next time I read a post that says, "But we NEED Android to exist and compete against Apple or it will become complacent and not add any new features or upgrade it in any way because they need competition.", I can refer that person to this quote by Larry Page. Sweet!
Google is a good tech company, no doubt. But they largely are a product of part of the Apple philosophy of taking something that exists and make it better. Are any of the google products that work something they actually created? Or just improved?
The other side of the Apple coin brought us the Mass Market Personal Computer, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad. Countless other things where Apple may not have succeeded, but pushed technology further.
Google Maps is amazing, so is google earth, gmail is still the best around, google now makes siri looks like childs play, and android is getting better day by day, chrome OS is the closest thing we have gotten to one laptop per child dream. Google is an AMAZING company with AMAZING talent. Google doesnt have to suck for apple to be great. I respect both companies for different reasons.
And every single one of them was designed specifically for one purpose and one purpose only... to mine customer data and sell it. They are not an amazing company, they are a parasitic company.
Am I the only one in the freaking world who appreciates all of the things each of these large tech companies make? I love my iphone and MacBook, I live within my google world with email, calendars, contacts, mapping, etc. I communicate with a ton of my friends on Facebook, I use MS Office because I find it better for my uses than anything else, I find my Samsung tv absolutely stunning, my PS3 is awesome, as is my Apple TV for completely different reasons. I have Amazon Prime and a Kindle and couldnt imagine living without either anymore. Why am I being told all the time that I can't appreciate all these companies?
The only thing I like that Google has done recently is the Kansas City Fibre Optic internet for $30/mo. Taking the Cable companies to task for ripping us off!
I think I have the $ amount right.
Also, shout out to Walmart for the unlimited $50 iPhone plan...again, same goes for the telecom companies ripping us off! I think I have that right.
Yeah, Google wants Apple to "innovate" and invent the next new thing no doubt, so that Google can copy it and come out with their own crappy version, just like with their phones and their crappy OS.
And sometimes it's better to do nothing than to "innovate" or change things just for the sake of changing things. A good example is Youtube, which is owned by Google. Almost every damn time that I visit Youtube, it seems that something has been changed, for no apparent reason at all, and features that you are used to using are no longer there, or have been changed for the worse. That's not innovating, that's just being clueless.
Right on. I never go to Youtube directly....but I do have to view the embedded videos in certain websites. Can nobody make a more serious youtube?
Google has ads served with search. Everything else they do, really, is mediocre, at best, and doesn't make them much money at all, if any. Good thing that's working out well for your, Mr. Page, because we all know that online ads will live (and provide revenue) forever.
"Speaking on the topic of Google X, the internet search giant's experimental products lab, Page said breakthroughs and non-incremental changes are key and questions why tech giants like Apple don't use their vast resources toward these goals."
oh but they do Larry - they just don't feel the need to trumpet it from the rooftops and use the media to keep their company in the headlines. Apple release their innovations when the product is ready and when the market is ready. They learned the lessons years ago - you jumped up little whippersnapper !
And about Apple's small range of products being unsatisfying, it is that razor focus on a small number of products that allows Apple to make sure they are more useable and seamless than most of the other competing products.
Dig it! "Apple's small range of products...." I fart in Larry Page's general direction!
I thank Apple for this. I'm down to an iPad Mini ($325), iPhone 5 ($200), an Airport Express ($95), an ATV ($95) and when my orig. intel 20" iMac gives up the ghost I may, or may not, replace it with an MBA....all this for less than my iMac/iBook/iPod Nano combo ($3,000) back in 2005/06 (?) Now that's innovation!
P.S. Sold my iP4s to get iP5 (no out of pocket expense), sold my iPad2 to get my iPad Mini, (no out of pocket expense), sold my orig. ATV ($150) to get the latest ATV (no out of pocket expense). Sold my MacBook to get an iPad2. Tell me there's an Apple Tax?
P.S.S. My D**khead brother-in-law has had to buy three HP POS desktops/laptops from Costco in the 6-7 years I've had my iMac.
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One of the things I love about google, they are not afraid to fail, and the bigger they fail the more they try.
Oh for those who says google doesnt innovate, ha. The web/cloud as we know it today is built off of Google's innovations in servers and server management. icould, facebook, wouldn't exist without the ground breaking work google has done on the server side.
So google, keep building your crazy fiber network, keep fighting for internet freedom, keep investing billions in green energy, keep building weird looking glasses. Every company has their culture, and Google culture of pie in the sky, internet is a right attitude is an important one in the tech industry.
I think everyone said it, can someone site a product which good Innovated themselves and I mean they did not buy the technology or another company.
Here is the only thing I can come up with, Street View and the car that drive themselves to create Street View, Again the probably got the self driving technology from other people or universities. I know there were universities competitions to make a car drive itself and much of what their first car look like came from those competitions.
I think Google just improved on what was already outer, search engine, web advertising, a web browser a mobile operating system, the list goes on, oh maybe google apps are their innovation, yeah but the such and do not work all that well. Honesty if you going to claim you are an innovater then your products should be better than the guy in front of you, and most of their product are still catching up.
Chime in, Spam? Want to here my from my wizard friend! (I'm calling Spam a wizard, not referring to wiz69, just to be clear)
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Originally Posted by TimmyDax
His anticompetitive rant belies his and Schmidt's true beliefs: open up your privacy and be content with the resulting crap; after all, it's free! Their YouTube app is horrible and the non-standard player is a step backwards from Apple's 2007 app. Their Google labs projects and even gmail have humiliatingly bad interfaces, and the projects they push are all second-rate except Search. Even then, it's only the results that are impressive, their actual web pages are dog-slow bloated nonsense with odd behaviours; Google image search is still awful on both mac and iOS, loading completely unnecessary content and stuffing up what should be easy. There's no denying their genius in algorithmic finding of content, but they simply fail at everything else. Their ads are constantly tasteless or scammy, it shows their complete lack of discernment for even the "products" that make them dollars. And he talks about vision and innovation? What a joke.
Google Maps is amazing, so is google earth, gmail is still the best around, google now makes siri looks like childs play, and android is getting better day by day, chrome OS is the closest thing we have gotten to one laptop per child dream. Google is an AMAZING company with AMAZING talent. Google doesnt have to suck for apple to be great. I respect both companies for different reasons.
Originally Posted by Ireland
Google are about as innovative as my left testicle. Like Facebook, they are a glorified advertising company...
You are right on the money with this observation and I can't understand how anybody can think of Google any other way. Everything they do is about selling user information to advertisers.
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"But it?s hard to find actual examples of really amazing things that happened solely due to competition," Page said. "How exciting is it to come to work if the best you can do is trounce some other company that does roughly the same thing?"
How interesting. I guess the next time I read a post that says, "But we NEED Android to exist and compete against Apple or it will become complacent and not add any new features or upgrade it in any way because they need competition.", I can refer that person to this quote by Larry Page. Sweet!
The other side of the Apple coin brought us the Mass Market Personal Computer, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad. Countless other things where Apple may not have succeeded, but pushed technology further.
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Originally Posted by Techstalker
Google Maps is amazing, so is google earth, gmail is still the best around, google now makes siri looks like childs play, and android is getting better day by day, chrome OS is the closest thing we have gotten to one laptop per child dream. Google is an AMAZING company with AMAZING talent. Google doesnt have to suck for apple to be great. I respect both companies for different reasons.
And every single one of them was designed specifically for one purpose and one purpose only... to mine customer data and sell it. They are not an amazing company, they are a parasitic company.
Perhaps you should ask Larry?
What is creepy (other than his smile), however, is that he actually believes this stuff.
Huh?
The only thing I like that Google has done recently is the Kansas City Fibre Optic internet for $30/mo. Taking the Cable companies to task for ripping us off!
I think I have the $ amount right.
Also, shout out to Walmart for the unlimited $50 iPhone plan...again, same goes for the telecom companies ripping us off!
What is creepy (other than his smile), however, is that he actually believes this stuff.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Yeah, Google wants Apple to "innovate" and invent the next new thing no doubt, so that Google can copy it and come out with their own crappy version, just like with their phones and their crappy OS.
And sometimes it's better to do nothing than to "innovate" or change things just for the sake of changing things. A good example is Youtube, which is owned by Google. Almost every damn time that I visit Youtube, it seems that something has been changed, for no apparent reason at all, and features that you are used to using are no longer there, or have been changed for the worse. That's not innovating, that's just being clueless.
Right on. I never go to Youtube directly....but I do have to view the embedded videos in certain websites. Can nobody make a more serious youtube?
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Originally Posted by macinthe408
Google has ads served with search. Everything else they do, really, is mediocre, at best, and doesn't make them much money at all, if any. Good thing that's working out well for your, Mr. Page, because we all know that online ads will live (and provide revenue) forever.
That describes Google in a nutshell!
Wired: Steve Jobs felt competitive enough to claim that he was willing to “go to thermonuclear war” on Android.
Page: How well is that working?
Wired: Do you think that Android’s huge lead in market share is decisive?
Page: Android has been very successful, and we’re very excited about it.
oh but they do Larry - they just don't feel the need to trumpet it from the rooftops and use the media to keep their company in the headlines.
Apple release their innovations when the product is ready and when the market is ready. They learned the lessons years ago - you jumped up little whippersnapper !
Your one idea got you lots of money, good for you. You're worth 20 billion. So every business CEO waits for your crumb of wisdom, NOT.
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Originally Posted by OriginalG
And about Apple's small range of products being unsatisfying, it is that razor focus on a small number of products that allows Apple to make sure they are more useable and seamless than most of the other competing products.
Dig it! "Apple's small range of products...." I fart in Larry Page's general direction!
I thank Apple for this. I'm down to an iPad Mini ($325), iPhone 5 ($200), an Airport Express ($95), an ATV ($95) and when my orig. intel 20" iMac gives up the ghost I may, or may not, replace it with an MBA....all this for less than my iMac/iBook/iPod Nano combo ($3,000) back in 2005/06 (?) Now that's innovation!
P.S. Sold my iP4s to get iP5 (no out of pocket expense), sold my iPad2 to get my iPad Mini, (no out of pocket expense), sold my orig. ATV ($150) to get the latest ATV (no out of pocket expense). Sold my MacBook to get an iPad2. Tell me there's an Apple Tax?
P.S.S. My D**khead brother-in-law has had to buy three HP POS desktops/laptops from Costco in the 6-7 years I've had my iMac.