Of course Google wants more innovation and less competition.
Less competition is good for companies - they have a captive audience meaning they don't have to try so hard.
More competition is good for the consumer - more innovation is required to keep the company on top and relevant.
Google became a household name when there was very little competition and they are still riding on that. From the point they have started to compete against other firms they have not repeated their success.
This Google troll who keeps bringing up Google Now as an innovation. Predictive searching, really? Have you tried it?
About as random as predictive text can be some times.
Not an innovation, just a derivative of other peoples ideas and work which is pretty much Google's MO.
Of course Google wants more innovation and less competition.
I found that hilarious. He actually said "less competition" instead of "less litigation". Maybe he picked a different word than the classic cliché simply to not be the cliché, but I don't think so.
He said "less competition" because that's the only way Google can grow. I don't think any company that actually cares about its customers (well, in this case, we have to distinguish customers and actual consumers) would actually want less competition, much less say it out loud.
Oh look who's back! Tell you what, when you go back and answer questions I posted in previous threads then I'll spend the time to explain it to you. Otherwise you're a troll not worth spending the time on.
1. You claimed to be an expert on multitouch with "decades" of experience. I called you on it since I started developing with touch screens in 1985. You never replied and left the thread. Several people including myself were wondering where you went.
2. You claimed to work for a Fortune 20 company and worked on the deployment of "thousands" of Android tablets, yet never bothered to explain why or what specific software was being developed for them that made Android the better choice. Again, you left the thread.
You are the typical troll. Say something and disappear. So when you clean up the loose ends then maybe I'll spend some time explaining it to you.
Let us not forget,
3. The "browser engine" he created with his bare hands.
Answer the question and stop putting on me, I said that your statement was false and proved it. NOT FULLY OPEN SOURCE!
I've never understood how so many people get snookered by Google's "open" propaganda. It's all "open source" this and "open" that, you'd think they didn't have a proprietary line of code laying around anywhere in the shop. You have to give them credit for duping so many people for so long, and they do have one hell of a propaganda machine they run.
I've never understood how so many people get snookered by Google's "open" propaganda. It's all "open source" this and "open" that, you'd think they didn't have a proprietary line of code laying around anywhere in the shop. You have to give them credit for duping so many people for so long, and they do have one hell of a propaganda machine they run.
What are you smokin son? With iOS as a dev you are sandboxed (like a child as it were), in Android you basically can run any bit of code you like. What is it about this you don't understand, or somehow equate to "getting snookered by propaganda"? Of course, the apple evangelist will take this fact and throw it in my face as the reason Android is so terrible; insecure and riddled with mass destructive malware.
Of course, the apple evangelist will take this fact and throw it in my face as the reason Android is so terrible; insecure and riddled with mass destructive malware.
Juniper Networks' 2011 Malware Report
- 13,302 samples of Android malware from June - December 2011
- Apple's is unpublished but they quarantine every app so is noted as being 0
Android has a sandbox too, it's just bigger and cats and dogs have been allowed in to leave their mess all round the edges. Run far and free but wipe your shoes when you are done. Do they have Norton for Android yet?
- Apple's is unpublished but they quarantine every app so is noted as being 0
Quarantine? How so? Actually, in that report, Juniper says this:
Quote:
"The Juniper MTC database does not include malware samples for Apple’s iOS platform .
This does not necessarily mean it does not exist or that the iOS platform is not vulnerable to malware . Indeed, there have been instances of applications pulled from Apple’s App Store for violating Apple’s terms of service .
The inability to quantify iOS threats is largely due to Apple not releasing data or opening its platform for analysis."
"During the past few quarters we’ve seen that the Android OS is the most popular target for writers of mobile malware. This quarter was no different; practically all new mobile malware was directed at the Android platform. The mix included SMS-sending malware, mobile botnets, spyware, and destructive Trojans."
What are you smokin son? With iOS as a dev you are sandboxed (like a child as it were), in Android you basically can run any bit of code you like. What is it about this you don't understand, or somehow equate to "getting snookered by propaganda"? Of course, the apple evangelist will take this fact and throw it in my face as the reason Android is so terrible; insecure and riddled with mass destructive malware.
No, not at all (especially since others have already). But, help me understand something. Android is good because it's like Windows? I don't get it. And what does that have to do with "open"?
Quarantine? How so? Actually, in that report, Juniper says this:
This does not necessarily mean it does not exist or that the iOS platform is not vulnerable to malware. Indeed, there have been instances of applications pulled from Apple’s App Store for violating Apple’s terms of service .
Pretty funny stuff there. Apps have been pulled for violating the TOS, and that means iOS is vulnerable to malware? No, you didn't write it, but you quoted it, which means you endorse it. So, can you explain the logic of how TOS violations equates to malware?
But, before you do that, there are a lot of other things you need to talk about, like the browser engine you created with your bare hands and your decades of multi-touch development, and, oh, I can't remember the other thing, but maybe someone else can.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Ladies and Gentlemen, Google's Very First Innovation:
Stealing from Yahoo!.
Wow, good find! First time I'd seen that one. It even pre-dates Google themselves.
Of course Google wants more innovation and less competition.
Less competition is good for companies - they have a captive audience meaning they don't have to try so hard.
More competition is good for the consumer - more innovation is required to keep the company on top and relevant.
Google became a household name when there was very little competition and they are still riding on that. From the point they have started to compete against other firms they have not repeated their success.
This Google troll who keeps bringing up Google Now as an innovation. Predictive searching, really? Have you tried it?
About as random as predictive text can be some times.
Not an innovation, just a derivative of other peoples ideas and work which is pretty much Google's MO.
Originally Posted by Evilution
Of course Google wants more innovation and less competition.
I found that hilarious. He actually said "less competition" instead of "less litigation". Maybe he picked a different word than the classic cliché simply to not be the cliché, but I don't think so.
He said "less competition" because that's the only way Google can grow. I don't think any company that actually cares about its customers (well, in this case, we have to distinguish customers and actual consumers) would actually want less competition, much less say it out loud.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Techstalker
You stated that android is not open source at all? didnt you?
Answer the question and stop putting on me, I said that your statement was false and proved it. NOT FULLY OPEN SOURCE!
Apparently Google wants an invite into Apple's secret R&D lab to see what they're dreaming up, so they can steal it!
Larry, what makes you think Apple doesn't have a bunch of "crazy" stuff that you can't even think of in their R&D shop???
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Originally Posted by Leonard
Apparently Google wants an invite into Apple's secret R&D lab to see what they're dreaming up, so they can steal it!
Larry, what makes you think Apple doesn't have a bunch of "crazy" stuff that you can't even think of in their R&D shop???
I'm pretty sure I read that Apple engineers were invited into Google Labs "back in the day" when Steve and Larry were still good buddies.
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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
Oh look who's back! Tell you what, when you go back and answer questions I posted in previous threads then I'll spend the time to explain it to you. Otherwise you're a troll not worth spending the time on.
1. You claimed to be an expert on multitouch with "decades" of experience. I called you on it since I started developing with touch screens in 1985. You never replied and left the thread. Several people including myself were wondering where you went.
2. You claimed to work for a Fortune 20 company and worked on the deployment of "thousands" of Android tablets, yet never bothered to explain why or what specific software was being developed for them that made Android the better choice. Again, you left the thread.
You are the typical troll. Say something and disappear. So when you clean up the loose ends then maybe I'll spend some time explaining it to you.
Let us not forget,
3. The "browser engine" he created with his bare hands.
Back when all they had was bouncy balls and big ideas. At least they've still got the bouncy balls:
Outsourcing is more cost-effective for the big ideas these days.
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Originally Posted by souliisoul
Answer the question and stop putting on me, I said that your statement was false and proved it. NOT FULLY OPEN SOURCE!
I've never understood how so many people get snookered by Google's "open" propaganda. It's all "open source" this and "open" that, you'd think they didn't have a proprietary line of code laying around anywhere in the shop. You have to give them credit for duping so many people for so long, and they do have one hell of a propaganda machine they run.
I bet some people can't even defend their family members the way they defend apple
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Originally Posted by anonymouse
I've never understood how so many people get snookered by Google's "open" propaganda. It's all "open source" this and "open" that, you'd think they didn't have a proprietary line of code laying around anywhere in the shop. You have to give them credit for duping so many people for so long, and they do have one hell of a propaganda machine they run.
What are you smokin son? With iOS as a dev you are sandboxed (like a child as it were), in Android you basically can run any bit of code you like. What is it about this you don't understand, or somehow equate to "getting snookered by propaganda"? Of course, the apple evangelist will take this fact and throw it in my face as the reason Android is so terrible; insecure and riddled with mass destructive malware.
There are other facts though.
http://www.slideshare.net/agent0x0/the-android-vs-apple-ios-security-showdown
Juniper Networks' 2011 Malware Report
- 13,302 samples of Android malware from June - December 2011
- Apple's is unpublished but they quarantine every app so is noted as being 0
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/local/pdf/additional-resources/jnpr-2011-mobile-threats-report.pdf
Android has a sandbox too, it's just bigger and cats and dogs have been allowed in to leave their mess all round the edges. Run far and free but wipe your shoes when you are done. Do they have Norton for Android yet?
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Juniper Networks' 2011 Malware Report
- Apple's is unpublished but they quarantine every app so is noted as being 0
Quarantine? How so? Actually, in that report, Juniper says this:
Quote:
"The Juniper MTC database does not include malware samples for Apple’s iOS platform .
This does not necessarily mean it does not exist or that the iOS platform is not vulnerable to malware . Indeed, there have been instances of applications pulled from Apple’s App Store for violating Apple’s terms of service .
The inability to quantify iOS threats is largely due to Apple not releasing data or opening its platform for analysis."
Originally Posted by Marvin
Do they have Norton for Android yet?
Norton. McAfee. Symantec. All the big names.
Originally Posted by KDarling
The inability to quantify iOS threats is largely due to Apple not releasing data or opening its platform for analysis."
Good. How else do you think this stuff happens? Trial and error. That slows things down.
Apple's review process is stricter than Google's.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/05/android-malware-surges-despite-googles-efforts-to-bounce-dodgy-apps-off-its-platform-f-secure-ids-51447-unique-samples-in-q3/
http://www.mcafee.com/us/resources/reports/rp-quarterly-threat-q2-2012.pdf
"During the past few quarters we’ve seen that the Android OS is the most popular target for writers of mobile malware. This quarter was no different; practically all new mobile malware was directed at the Android platform. The mix included SMS-sending malware, mobile botnets, spyware, and destructive Trojans."
Google has your back though:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/13/android_ondevice_malware_scanning/
well, sorta:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751202/google-android-malware-scanner-test
At least the phones have quad-core CPUs, you almost won't notice the scanning behind that buttery smooth ice-cream jelly bean sandwich.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/01/copycat-google-copies-mit-students-invention.html
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Originally Posted by Neo42
What are you smokin son? With iOS as a dev you are sandboxed (like a child as it were), in Android you basically can run any bit of code you like. What is it about this you don't understand, or somehow equate to "getting snookered by propaganda"? Of course, the apple evangelist will take this fact and throw it in my face as the reason Android is so terrible; insecure and riddled with mass destructive malware.
No, not at all (especially since others have already). But, help me understand something. Android is good because it's like Windows? I don't get it. And what does that have to do with "open"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by KDarling
Quarantine? How so? Actually, in that report, Juniper says this:
This does not necessarily mean it does not exist or that the iOS platform is not vulnerable to malware . Indeed, there have been instances of applications pulled from Apple’s App Store for violating Apple’s terms of service .
Pretty funny stuff there. Apps have been pulled for violating the TOS, and that means iOS is vulnerable to malware? No, you didn't write it, but you quoted it, which means you endorse it. So, can you explain the logic of how TOS violations equates to malware?
But, before you do that, there are a lot of other things you need to talk about, like the browser engine you created with your bare hands and your decades of multi-touch development, and, oh, I can't remember the other thing, but maybe someone else can.
You're a real card, KDarling.
Bill Gates, please come back !!!!!!