I'm wondering when the leaks an plants will start flowing from the supply chain. So far Apples security has been fully engaged. Think about it, there is a plant someplace in the USA about to go on line and we don't even know where it is. This really puzzles me as it would seem to be difficult to keep a plant secret. If the machine is announced at WWDC then pilot production would be already ramping up. Yet we have no idea.
Maybe the entire plant is robotic with no organic air bags to acknowledge the plants existence.
Like in The Jetsons where only one guy goes to push a button to start the factory up... yeah we're not there yet. And I'm sure we'd have it done remotely via the internet in the future. So that job wouldn't exist.
there is a plant someplace in the USA about to go on line and we don't even know where it is. This really puzzles me as it would seem to be difficult to keep a plant secret.
Tim said they were going 'deep' so maybe it's underground or underwater. That could be what the extra money was for their HQ. They haven't done anything new to the top part, they just decided to add a whole basement level for manufacturing - one entrance, no windows. Right in the center of the donut, a glass elevator secured by lasers and things descends into the underground layer. Project donut-hole.
Tim said they were going 'deep' so maybe it's underground or underwater. That could be what the extra money was for their HQ. They haven't done anything new to the top part, they just decided to add a whole basement level for manufacturing - one entrance, no windows. Right in the center of the donut, a glass elevator secured by lasers and things descends into the underground layer. Project donut-hole.
It has been a very long time since I've had a donut hole. Nor a glass of orange juice. Being a diabetic sure does suck at times.
It is fascinating though if you think about it. A whole factory hidden from the public that is about to squirt out new Macs and no body really knows where it is.
I just had an interesting thought, Cook mentioned Kentucky in is list of states right? Isn't that where Corning has its glass plant? It makes me wonder if we are off track here and that the Mac to be produced in the USA will have a glass panel. Maybe the iMac or a laptop? I've been leaning towards the Mac Pro with the Mini a strong second but maybe conventional wisdom is wrong here.
Maybe AI should fire DED and higher a real reporter to sniff out this factory and get the real dirt before the rest of the world.
I just had an interesting thought, Cook mentioned Kentucky in is list of states right? Isn't that where Corning has its glass plant? It makes me wonder if we are off track here and that the Mac to be produced in the USA will have a glass panel.
That briefly crossed my mind but the furthest I got with the other suppliers was that Intel might represent Arizona and I decided it's not worth the effort breaking down every part. There's quite a few parts to source for a Mac Pro. The exports of Kentucky are listed here:
They rank aircraft engines and parts at number 1 so maybe that's where they'll source aircraft grade aluminium. There's little to stop the iMac being manufactured in the US but I doubt they'd have the advanced screen lamination process in the US given that the displays come from LG etc so no point in sourcing the glass in the US.
So why are people buying Laptops (sorry, desktop replacements...), iMacs (to a lesser degree but way more than Pro or Mini...), tablets or phones? Because people can get more done now with such machines than they could with a tower that costed almost 3k ten years ago. Most of what they want can be covered with cheaper, more powerful devices than ever.
Because most people use a computer for nothing more strenuous than Facebook and online shopping?
As for your X-Mac. Don't be coy. Tell us your specs and price. *Smiles.
Lemon Bon Bon.
Such a question is nonsense.
Ask that same question for any of the existing Apple computers. prospective buyers, even owners would have different ideas on what it should have and what it should cost. They may find that it fits their needs, they may find that it works just fine, they may even be okay with the cost. But there will still be something that they wish was slightly different.
And that is with a product that already exists. That they already can use, and touch.
If the iMac didn't exist, and you asked what people would want in a non existent all in one and what it should cost you would get as many varied specs and prices as you would get for an X-Mac.
That doesn't mean that Apple shouldn't have built it and that people wouldn't have bought it.
Because most people use a computer for nothing more strenuous than Facebook and online shopping?
My iPad is great for much of what I do on line. So I don't think I'm much different in that respect to the may other out there. However the locked down nature of the iPad makes it unusable for other activities I get involved in. This is the Mac Market, that is the more dynamic and advanced user if computing technology.
Apple today said the new Mac production will take place in Texas. Since they do everything bigger in Texas I think that puts a lock on the Mac Pro replacement! ????????????????????????????????
Apple today said the new Mac production will take place in Texas. Since they do everything bigger in Texas I think that puts a lock on the Mac Pro replacement! ????????????????????????????????
I know Austin has some tech company facilities. Apple was building a campus there.
It is pretty amazing the way you go out of your way to try to spin things to your favor but add no substance.
They build A.I.Os.
Kodak built silver based film for years until they failed to adapt to market realities. Do you think Apple should go the way of Kodak with the Mac Line up. The reality is Apple is in a rut with the desktop lineup.
That's what they sell for Mac OSX and iOS. That's what they do. Thinner. Smaller. Sealed units. They have their life span. Rinse. Repeat.
Which excludes them from a significant market share that they can't currently even try to enter.
Coulda woulda shoulda?
See Apple's stores for what they 'do.'
It aint no X-Mac.
Lemon Bon Bon.
That may be so but the local Apple store only has one iMac and a Mini on display, are you going to be happy if those are no longer available too? It just isn't good for a company like Apple to let a lineup like the desktops languish and age on the vine. It generates a lack of confidence in the company from the customer base. You can see that now in the postings from the Mac Pro crowd on these forums over the last couple of years and from many of the Mini owners that see that platform going backwards. Even the iMac has become a joke for serious users of computer hardware.
Frankly you can post all the glorious bits about the iMac you want but the machine is a joke for most business uses now. If you can't access the power supply and hard drive on a computer it isn't taken seriously in the business world. You can offer up all the half assed solutions you want but they simply aren't taken seriously in most circles.
[CODE][/CODE] This long delay in a meaningful MacPro update/replacement reminds of me of the bad old days when the G4 was the top dog in the Mac lineup and we kept waiting and waiting for IBM to come up with a new processor that Apple could use while Intel kept coming out with faster chips And when it happened it was the unlamented Power Mac G5, the worst Mac I ever owned. When rendering it sounded like a jet taking off. It finally went crazy and after three trips in for repair Apple finally gave up and replaced it with a Mac Pro.
Anyway, rant over.
When a new update/replacement comes out, if indeed it does, I hope they at least don't eliminate FireWire. I think most people who will replace their older MacPro have a substantial number of FireWire peripherals that they'd like to continue to use.
This long delay in a meaningful MacPro update/replacement reminds of me of the bad old days when the G4 was the top dog in the Mac lineup and we kept waiting and waiting for IBM to come up with a new processor that Apple could use while Intel kept coming out with faster chips And when it happened it was the unlamented Power Mac G5, the worst Mac I ever owned. When rendering it sounded like a jet taking off. It finally went crazy and after three trips in for repair Apple finally gave up and replaced it with a Mac Pro.
Similar yes but this time Apple is a substantial partner in the failure to get a viable Mac Pro replacement on the market
Anyway, rant over.
When a new update/replacement comes out, if indeed it does, I hope they at least don't eliminate FireWire. I think most people who will replace their older MacPro have a substantial number of FireWire peripherals that they'd like to continue to use.
I really don't understand this backwards thinking. That is like suggesting that Apple should put a SCSI port in the machine because people have old hardware they like to support. Sooner or latter technology has to advance. Besides external Firewire adapters do exist.
Whoa such as some other hugely multi player game titles is designed to cater to thousands of on the internet participants as well from all over the planet.
His is right on the other member who posted his answer. Face Book and other moronic social sites and internet usage mainly the computer is good for. Not all but most.
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Maybe the entire plant is robotic with no organic air bags to acknowledge the plants existence.
Like in The Jetsons where only one guy goes to push a button to start the factory up... yeah we're not there yet. And I'm sure we'd have it done remotely via the internet in the future. So that job wouldn't exist.
Tim said they were going 'deep' so maybe it's underground or underwater. That could be what the extra money was for their HQ. They haven't done anything new to the top part, they just decided to add a whole basement level for manufacturing - one entrance, no windows. Right in the center of the donut, a glass elevator secured by lasers and things descends into the underground layer. Project donut-hole.
Good thing X marks the spot, not A.
It has been a very long time since I've had a donut hole. Nor a glass of orange juice. Being a diabetic sure does suck at times.
It is fascinating though if you think about it. A whole factory hidden from the public that is about to squirt out new Macs and no body really knows where it is.
I just had an interesting thought, Cook mentioned Kentucky in is list of states right? Isn't that where Corning has its glass plant? It makes me wonder if we are off track here and that the Mac to be produced in the USA will have a glass panel. Maybe the iMac or a laptop? I've been leaning towards the Mac Pro with the Mini a strong second but maybe conventional wisdom is wrong here.
Maybe AI should fire DED and higher a real reporter to sniff out this factory and get the real dirt before the rest of the world.
That briefly crossed my mind but the furthest I got with the other suppliers was that Intel might represent Arizona and I decided it's not worth the effort breaking down every part. There's quite a few parts to source for a Mac Pro. The exports of Kentucky are listed here:
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/state/data/ky.html
They rank aircraft engines and parts at number 1 so maybe that's where they'll source aircraft grade aluminium. There's little to stop the iMac being manufactured in the US but I doubt they'd have the advanced screen lamination process in the US given that the displays come from LG etc so no point in sourcing the glass in the US.
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Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
So why are people buying Laptops (sorry, desktop replacements...), iMacs (to a lesser degree but way more than Pro or Mini...), tablets or phones? Because people can get more done now with such machines than they could with a tower that costed almost 3k ten years ago. Most of what they want can be covered with cheaper, more powerful devices than ever.
Because most people use a computer for nothing more strenuous than Facebook and online shopping?
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Because most people use a computer for nothing more strenuous than Facebook and online shopping?
You can do that on anything down to a phone. If that was the only market, computing would have far less stratification.
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Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
As for your X-Mac. Don't be coy. Tell us your specs and price. *Smiles.
Lemon Bon Bon.Such a question is nonsense.
Ask that same question for any of the existing Apple computers. prospective buyers, even owners would have different ideas on what it should have and what it should cost. They may find that it fits their needs, they may find that it works just fine, they may even be okay with the cost. But there will still be something that they wish was slightly different.
And that is with a product that already exists. That they already can use, and touch.
If the iMac didn't exist, and you asked what people would want in a non existent all in one and what it should cost you would get as many varied specs and prices as you would get for an X-Mac.
That doesn't mean that Apple shouldn't have built it and that people wouldn't have bought it.
My iPad is great for much of what I do on line. So I don't think I'm much different in that respect to the may other out there. However the locked down nature of the iPad makes it unusable for other activities I get involved in. This is the Mac Market, that is the more dynamic and advanced user if computing technology.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
Apple today said the new Mac production will take place in Texas. Since they do everything bigger in Texas I think that puts a lock on the Mac Pro replacement! ????????????????????????????????
I know Austin has some tech company facilities. Apple was building a campus there.
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Such a question is nonsense.
Exactly.
That's why Apple don't build them.
They build A.I.Os.
That's what they sell for Mac OSX and iOS. That's what they do. Thinner. Smaller. Sealed units. They have their life span. Rinse. Repeat.
Coulda woulda shoulda?
See Apple's stores for what they 'do.'
It aint no X-Mac.
Lemon Bon Bon.
That may be so but the local Apple store only has one iMac and a Mini on display, are you going to be happy if those are no longer available too? It just isn't good for a company like Apple to let a lineup like the desktops languish and age on the vine. It generates a lack of confidence in the company from the customer base. You can see that now in the postings from the Mac Pro crowd on these forums over the last couple of years and from many of the Mini owners that see that platform going backwards. Even the iMac has become a joke for serious users of computer hardware.
Frankly you can post all the glorious bits about the iMac you want but the machine is a joke for most business uses now. If you can't access the power supply and hard drive on a computer it isn't taken seriously in the business world. You can offer up all the half assed solutions you want but they simply aren't taken seriously in most circles.
This long delay in a meaningful MacPro update/replacement reminds of me of the bad old days when the G4 was the top dog in the Mac lineup and we kept waiting and waiting for IBM to come up with a new processor that Apple could use while Intel kept coming out with faster chips And when it happened it was the unlamented Power Mac G5, the worst Mac I ever owned. When rendering it sounded like a jet taking off. It finally went crazy and after three trips in for repair Apple finally gave up and replaced it with a Mac Pro.
Anyway, rant over.
When a new update/replacement comes out, if indeed it does, I hope they at least don't eliminate FireWire. I think most people who will replace their older MacPro have a substantial number of FireWire peripherals that they'd like to continue to use.
I really don't understand this backwards thinking. That is like suggesting that Apple should put a SCSI port in the machine because people have old hardware they like to support. Sooner or latter technology has to advance. Besides external Firewire adapters do exist.
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Besides external Firewire adapters do exist.
You might even be able to find them in PCI card form factor. That was my most common use of PCI cards, additional ports.
Whoa such as some other hugely multi player game titles is designed to cater to thousands of on the internet participants as well from all over the planet.
http://www.arm2teeth.com/
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His is right on the other member who posted his answer. Face Book and other moronic social sites and internet usage mainly the computer is good for. Not all but most.