Have they come up with new ads for the Surface? The only ones I have seen were those goofy dance-and-click ones that remind me of those awful Kit-Kat commercials.
There is a new one - it emphasizes the use as a tablet rather than the irritating 'click' nonsense. I've only seen it once, though, so they're not playing it much.
There are many different types of professionals. This may be a professional grade machine to many users. Not all professionals require a discrete GPU. Nor do they all require the ability to upgrade the memory and such after purchase. It all depends on the individual use case.
Well, as you said all pros not need GPU & upgrade RAM but it better to have GPU and able to upgrade RAM then you don't have or you can't upgrade.
I think price of RMBP, it should have. Or at least RAM should be max as 16GB.
By the way, 15" RMBP has $200 for 16GB RAM upgrade is outrageous. Are they kidding me? Pay $200 for 8GB RAM bump?
Is that RAM made from gold?
Since they soldered RAM on motherboard, they have 2 different motherboard in stock.(8GB & 16GB version for 15" RMBP) instead just swap RAM module.
Apple should stop at just removed ODD & FW port. And should give us 2 2.5" HDD(or SSD+HDD or 2 SSD) options.
Still old MBP has enough space to bump up battery size.
Seems like the new MBP is almost the same form factor as an Air. I wouldn't be surprised if they merge the product lines eventually.
I've got the rMBP 15" and the display and speed has ruined me for all other computers. It's very thin for what it is but a rMBA would be great for my kids to haul around when they soon go to college.
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
Welcome to 2013: Noone gives a shit about upgrading their laptop anymore. The same shrieking was done with non-removable batteries. At the end of the day the overall benefits far outweigh the inability to upgrade for the extremely niche amount of people who would like to do so. It's not like RAM requirements are changing as fast as they once were. 4GB more than enough for most, and 8GB should be fine for a long time if you have heavier uses. I use my 2012 Air for ALL my work (4GB RAM) with CS6, and it handles everything I throw at it.. which is quite a bit.
Oh, and speak for yourself. I use a Macbok Air and the old 13" is a complete beast compare to this. So yes, I do think its too heavy, as would most people who get used to the Air or any ultrabook.
I've got the rMBP 15" and the display and speed has ruined me for all other computers. It's very thin for what it is but a rMBA would be great for my kids to haul around when they soon go to college.
Yeah, I have the same rMBP 15". I got the maximum configuration so I hope it lasts a long time. My old 2007 15" MBP was still perfect but it could not be upgraded to ML so I decided to buy the new one.
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
I'm guessing you've never used a MacBook Air. The 13" cMBP is too heavy and I wouldn't consider it. Even my non-Ultrabook HP Elitebook weighs in at 4lbs with the DVD drive. I didn't consider the MBP until it went Retina.
I'd have bought one instead of the regular 13" MacBook Pro if they include a discrete GPU. My old 2008 MacBook Pro was getting a tad slow.
It's such a shame that Apple went Intel only graphics in a "Pro" machine, almost insulting really considering the price tag.
I hear this complaint over and over, but the 13" Pro has never had a discrete GPU and it is consistently Apple's best selling notebook. Evidently not many people are concerned about it.
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
You mean all those clicking tablets and people dancing on the tables turn you on.
This goes to show there is always something for someone.
Because we've torn it from the hands of the trolls and spit on it. We tried to hand it back to them, but only a few of them accepted. But we're fine with our own spit, and it keeps the less creative ones away.
True but you're out-trolling the trolls. Jrag and yourself are more than capable of writing something constructive
Welcome to 2013: Noone gives a shit about upgrading their laptop anymore.
Pretty much everyone I know who buys an iMac or standard MBP goes out and purchases 3rd party RAM straight away, saving themselves hundreds over Apple's RAM upgrade prices.
4GB more than enough for most, and 8GB should be fine for a long time if you have heavier uses.
I take it that you've never run Xcode and the iPhone simulator at the same time? Xcode is only getting more resource hungry.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. I thought all online retailers are now required to charge sales tax in California regardless of where the store is actually located. California sales tax is really complicated because every county and some cities have different rates and they cannot simply be determined by zip codes either.
Actually, I believe all California residents are required to claim their out of sales purchase on their tax forms so sales tax can be collected. I'm guessing not many people do this, but it is the law. Interestingly, many of the same people who laugh at claiming their out of state purchases are the same folks who rail about big businesses not paying THEIR fair share of taxes, but I digress... ;-)
Actually, I believe all California residents are required to claim their out of sales purchase on their tax forms so sales tax can be collected. I'm guessing not many people do this, but it is the law. Interestingly, many of the same people who laugh at claiming their out of state purchases are the same folks who rail about big businesses not paying THEIR fair share of taxes, but I digress... ;-)
You are correct about declaring purchases on tax return.
Internet shopping had always been tax free in California, but last year the state legislature passed a bill forcing approximately 200 e-retailers, including Amazon and Overstock, to tax customers. Sales tax rates in California reach 9.75 percent and are among the highest in the country.
State Officials estimate the tax will generate $200 million a year, which is sure to fill budget holes. Annually, the Golden State loses about $1 billion in state tax revenue because most Californians don't know they're suppose to pay the equivalent of a sales tax on their state income tax, filling under a use tax.
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
Hm almost everyone I know thinks the macbook pro was too heavy. And it's the trend now for manufacturers to make non upgradable laptops. Let's see how long you can hold off.
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Originally Posted by Cash907
...like the same bad joke told by an elderly relative every thanksgiving, year after year.
Pull my finger.
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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada
If Apple takes the MBA retina with the upcoming Haswell chip, that would be a very VERY nice laptop
Seems like the new MBP is almost the same form factor as an Air. I wouldn't be surprised if they merge the product lines eventually.
There is a new one - it emphasizes the use as a tablet rather than the irritating 'click' nonsense. I've only seen it once, though, so they're not playing it much.
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Originally Posted by iSteelers
There are many different types of professionals. This may be a professional grade machine to many users. Not all professionals require a discrete GPU. Nor do they all require the ability to upgrade the memory and such after purchase. It all depends on the individual use case.
Well, as you said all pros not need GPU & upgrade RAM but it better to have GPU and able to upgrade RAM then you don't have or you can't upgrade.
I think price of RMBP, it should have. Or at least RAM should be max as 16GB.
By the way, 15" RMBP has $200 for 16GB RAM upgrade is outrageous. Are they kidding me? Pay $200 for 8GB RAM bump?
Is that RAM made from gold?
Since they soldered RAM on motherboard, they have 2 different motherboard in stock.(8GB & 16GB version for 15" RMBP) instead just swap RAM module.
Apple should stop at just removed ODD & FW port. And should give us 2 2.5" HDD(or SSD+HDD or 2 SSD) options.
Still old MBP has enough space to bump up battery size.
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Originally Posted by mstone
Seems like the new MBP is almost the same form factor as an Air. I wouldn't be surprised if they merge the product lines eventually.
I've got the rMBP 15" and the display and speed has ruined me for all other computers. It's very thin for what it is but a rMBA would be great for my kids to haul around when they soon go to college.
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Originally Posted by TailsToo
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
Welcome to 2013: Noone gives a shit about upgrading their laptop anymore. The same shrieking was done with non-removable batteries. At the end of the day the overall benefits far outweigh the inability to upgrade for the extremely niche amount of people who would like to do so. It's not like RAM requirements are changing as fast as they once were. 4GB more than enough for most, and 8GB should be fine for a long time if you have heavier uses. I use my 2012 Air for ALL my work (4GB RAM) with CS6, and it handles everything I throw at it.. which is quite a bit.
Oh, and speak for yourself. I use a Macbok Air and the old 13" is a complete beast compare to this. So yes, I do think its too heavy, as would most people who get used to the Air or any ultrabook.
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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada
I've got the rMBP 15" and the display and speed has ruined me for all other computers. It's very thin for what it is but a rMBA would be great for my kids to haul around when they soon go to college.
Yeah, I have the same rMBP 15". I got the maximum configuration so I hope it lasts a long time. My old 2007 15" MBP was still perfect but it could not be upgraded to ML so I decided to buy the new one.
Originally Posted by mstone
Seems like the new MBP is almost the same form factor as an Air. I wouldn't be surprised if they merge the product lines eventually.
I'm already of the belief that they should just drop the second half of each name and simply have a true "MacBook" family.
That would also absolve them of any requirement, real or drummed up, for the MacBook Pro models to be arbitrarily "professional" machines.
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Originally Posted by TailsToo
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
I'm guessing you've never used a MacBook Air. The 13" cMBP is too heavy and I wouldn't consider it. Even my non-Ultrabook HP Elitebook weighs in at 4lbs with the DVD drive. I didn't consider the MBP until it went Retina.
Damn. I was pushing off a MBA purchase until June or so, but this...this might push me over the edge a bit early.
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Originally Posted by saarek
I'd have bought one instead of the regular 13" MacBook Pro if they include a discrete GPU. My old 2008 MacBook Pro was getting a tad slow.
It's such a shame that Apple went Intel only graphics in a "Pro" machine, almost insulting really considering the price tag.
I hear this complaint over and over, but the 13" Pro has never had a discrete GPU and it is consistently Apple's best selling notebook. Evidently not many people are concerned about it.
This goes to show there is always something for someone.
True but you're out-trolling the trolls. Jrag and yourself are more than capable of writing something constructive
Pretty much everyone I know who buys an iMac or standard MBP goes out and purchases 3rd party RAM straight away, saving themselves hundreds over Apple's RAM upgrade prices.
I take it that you've never run Xcode and the iPhone simulator at the same time?
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I take it that you've never run Xcode and the iPhone simulator at the same time?
Absolutely.
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I'm not sure I understand your comment. I thought all online retailers are now required to charge sales tax in California regardless of where the store is actually located. California sales tax is really complicated because every county and some cities have different rates and they cannot simply be determined by zip codes either.
Actually, I believe all California residents are required to claim their out of sales purchase on their tax forms so sales tax can be collected. I'm guessing not many people do this, but it is the law. Interestingly, many of the same people who laugh at claiming their out of state purchases are the same folks who rail about big businesses not paying THEIR fair share of taxes, but I digress... ;-)
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Originally Posted by tarfungo
Actually, I believe all California residents are required to claim their out of sales purchase on their tax forms so sales tax can be collected. I'm guessing not many people do this, but it is the law. Interestingly, many of the same people who laugh at claiming their out of state purchases are the same folks who rail about big businesses not paying THEIR fair share of taxes, but I digress... ;-)
You are correct about declaring purchases on tax return.
I found this article: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=8812364
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Internet shopping had always been tax free in California, but last year the state legislature passed a bill forcing approximately 200 e-retailers, including Amazon and Overstock, to tax customers. Sales tax rates in California reach 9.75 percent and are among the highest in the country.
State Officials estimate the tax will generate $200 million a year, which is sure to fill budget holes. Annually, the Golden State loses about $1 billion in state tax revenue because most Californians don't know they're suppose to pay the equivalent of a sales tax on their state income tax, filling under a use tax.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Be prepared for the "Apple is Doomed" nonsense.
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Originally Posted by TailsToo
Sorry, no ability to upgrade the RAM, and I wouldn't touch the laptop.
I wish Apple would rethink making things so thin. I don't know of anyone who said that their old 13" MacBook Pro was too heavy. If the cost of thiner is no longer being able to better your computer, then it's not worth doing.
Hm almost everyone I know thinks the macbook pro was too heavy. And it's the trend now for manufacturers to make non upgradable laptops. Let's see how long you can hold off.