Apple 'less arrogant' post-Steve Jobs, says France Telecom-Orange CEO

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  • Reply 21 of 32
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,394member


    Tim Cook isn't Steve Jobs- News at 11. 


     


    Steve Jobs didn't have a perfect personality, and Tim Cook isn't expected to emulate Steve Jobs. Yes, Apple is and will be different under Cook. The most important thing is to continue to focus on ultra high quality products, and the general philosophies that SJ instilled. All evidence points to the fact that this is still alive and well under Cook. 

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  • Reply 22 of 32
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member


    I dunno. I think I preferred the arrogance. It'd be great to have Jobs turn round and tell Einhorn that he's playing the stock market wrong. I think Cook is doing a great job with operations (aside from the supply hiccups), but his biggest mistake was handing out the dividend. All this has done is attract sharks like Einhorn, who now believe they have the legal right to dip into Apple's cash store at will.

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  • Reply 23 of 32
    It's good that Apple is more responsive when a bug or exploit is found. While I don't expect them to leak new products, it doesn't hurt to communicate on the other issues, so you seem responsive to your customers. Having better partner relationships never hurts either

    Cheers !
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  • Reply 24 of 32
    marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member


    Tim Cook could not even begin to compete with Steve Jobs in running a company like Apple.This man has no personality at all.Jobs was the sole heart of Apple when he was alive.

     

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  • Reply 25 of 32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post



    And who knows about arrogance if not the French? image


    Yeah, and they're really mean to snails and frogs! :)

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  • Reply 26 of 32
    How funny to see this guy, former civil servant, named by Sarkozy as a gift to this handsomely paid position trying to play big wig. Just give a look at share price (EPA:FTE) during last 10 years and compare to main contender Illiad (Free(r)) (EPA:ILD) and you will ponder these mighty words...
    FTE is loosing market share on a frightening pace so it sounds like a desperate way to exist making arrogant comments on real companies...
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  • Reply 27 of 32
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,547moderator
    Apple has (become) more flexible, paying more attention to everyone else, probably a little less arrogant than they used to be, he said, adding that the Cook-era Apple is "probably a little more under pressure, and it is quite nice.

    It's a pretty meaningless statement as anthropomorphisations of companies usually are. People constantly try to make out like Apple is now in a state of desperation without Steve and somehow the behaviour of every member of staff towards other people has changed because they have a new CEO when Tim has acted as CEO in the past unnoticed.

    Steve Jobs said in 2005 that Apple wasn't good at partnering with other companies but that they got better at it. They clearly partnered with the phone companies for the iPhone. The increased competition will require them to be more flexible with partners but that would be required with Steve as CEO too.

    It seems like no matter how good Tim is at managing the most successful company in the world, people still say he's not good enough and everybody in their comfy armchairs could take his place and do twice as good a job. Well, get out the armchairs and do it. Tim isn't in a position of privilege, he earned his place and all day long he has to deal with supply chain issues, legal issues, customers moaning about one thing or another. Imagine if every day you went into work and all you got was abuse about how you aren't as good as the last guy. It's no wonder he has to visit stores to cheer himself up.
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  • Reply 28 of 32


    Apple use to be a communist state with an angry dictator telling people his radical thoughts and what he wanted, that worked really well for them and us.


     


    Apple now is just a bunch of "do nothing" leaders who who care too much about what people think. Every now and then they might go and walk around the offices and ask if anyone has thought of any good ideas for products before going back into a meeting about how to make people like them.

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  • Reply 29 of 32


    Originally Posted by Evilution View Post

    Apple use to be a communist state with an angry dictator telling people his radical thoughts and what he wanted, that worked really well for them and us.


     


    Apple now is just a bunch of "do nothing" leaders who who care too much about what people think. Every now and then they might go and walk around the offices and ask if anyone has thought of any good ideas for products before going back into a meeting about how to make people like them.



     


    None of this is true in any respect.

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  • Reply 30 of 32
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    ""Arrogant Apple" had a stock price of $700 per share"

    Huh? That was a year AFTER Steve's death.... way into Cook's tenure. (Though I personally doubt much of anything actually "Apple" was responsible for that pop.)
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  • Reply 31 of 32

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    Originally Posted by Ryan Siegel View Post


    Hm, funny because last I checked, "Arrogant Apple" had a stock price of $700 per share. I guess nice guys truly do finish last. 



    Actually, it didn't.

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  • Reply 32 of 32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    None of this is true in any respect.





    Indeed. Bigger lies were never told.

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