Okay, I like this site and understand it's slanted toward Apple, but this is the first time I have seen it pretty much write and post an untruth. Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4" is an outright lie.
If you read the actual report you will see that "android" did not lose 3.5%. Blackberry and Windows OS contributed also to that 3.5%. I am actually disgusted by this spin.
Being in a legal firm we also have a delima with converging our work and home phones. There's the issue of public disclosure. If our work is on our "personal" phone the content may be disclosed.
18 mo.s ago I upgraded from the iP4 to the iP4s. The iP4s is a wonderful piece of kit.
But, the iPhone 5 is better is every aspect.
P.S. October I will be upgrading to the iP5s. I would like to upgrade at every new iPhone iteration, but ATT and Sprint (I won't do Verizon) prohibit me.
When the iP5s is released and if it's offered by Walmart or Cricket as a Pre-paid phone, I will seriously consider it.
Of course you would be. (Even granting the point that it's poorly worded).
Have you, obversely, been elated these past few days when many stories on this site made some people ask whether they were reading AndrodInsider? Did you post about how happy you were?
Okay, I like this site and understand it's slanted toward Apple, but this is the first time I have seen it pretty much write and post an untruth. Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4" is an outright lie.
If you read the actual report you will see that "android" did not lose 3.5%. Blackberry and Windows OS contributed also to that 3.5%. I am actually disgusted by this spin.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Do they have chimpanzees writing these headlines?
The headline reads "Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4." However, when you read the story, Android was down 1.3%, Blackberry was down 1.9% and others were down slightly. So attributing the loss to Android is just plain wrong.
Headlines are often misleading. In fact, many reporters make it clear that they write the articles and not the headlines. Having said this, the headline here is SPOT ON. A cookie for the first between you two chimpanzees to figure it out.
I think the chart the Economist printed might have been from a presentation made last May but didn't go that far in looking at it.
Nonsense.
This is typical of your posts. You seemingly look at the first couple of links that a Google search throws up and try to sound like you know the data or what you're talking about.
(Add: None of your links say anything otherwise. The Nielsen data is for 2011; the Comscore data says "it is reaching 50%" (not surpassing like you claim); the carrier data you point to only shows that ATT is higher than 50%; the KPCB data is the latest, and most comprehensive that I've seen, and that's the one that The Economist refers to).
You guys shouldn't trust these market share analyst surveys that much. They are not accurate to 10 to 15%. If you aggregate all the data, I'd say USA smartphone penetration is somewhere between 50 to 60% as of today, and it definitely passed 50% by the end of 2012.
I'm not sure why one would put KPCB above comScore or whoever. Don't take the numbers as exact. Reporting anything to the 3rd digit here is stupid, and the 2nd digit won't be that reliable.
And yes, the headline is inaccurate, but that's par for the course. The only to stop that is to stop clicking it or tapping it. Not sure what can be done really.
I read few days ago they made 40 millions of SIII alone up to now. Your number is greatly underestimated although I wish it would be true.
You must also know Samsung IS making a substantial profits, so they are not giving away bulk of their phones if you consider the Galaxy is still cheaper than iPhone, don't they?
Of course you would be. (Even granting the point that it's poorly worded).
Have you, obversely, been elated these past few days when many stories on this site made some people ask whether they were reading AndrodInsider? Did you post about how happy you were?
Thought so....
You don't know me. I will buy an iPhone again as soon as they make the screen bigger. With my old eyes I don't want to have to put on readers every time I want to check email or look at a website. Trust me, I will be first in line when Apple makes a phone that is at least the same size screen wise as the S3.
I want an Apple site that posts facts and truths; not some BS spin story.
Headlines are often misleading. In fact, many reporters make it clear that they write the articles and not the headlines. Having said this, the headline here is SPOT ON. A cookie for the first between you two chimpanzees to figure it out.
Android is not a smartphone... It's a smartphone platform. And the headline is specific about smartphones which there is no comparison when you look at the chart. The phones included in that 3.5% gain were also Blackberry and Windows smartphone platforms. You need to increase your reading comprehension.
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Okay, I like this site and understand it's slanted toward Apple, but this is the first time I have seen it pretty much write and post an untruth. Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4" is an outright lie.
If you read the actual report you will see that "android" did not lose 3.5%. Blackberry and Windows OS contributed also to that 3.5%. I am actually disgusted by this spin.
Being in a legal firm we also have a delima with converging our work and home phones. There's the issue of public disclosure. If our work is on our "personal" phone the content may be disclosed.
You know things are not going well for Android when Andy Rubin stop posting activation numbers on Google+ or Twitter.
18 mo.s ago I upgraded from the iP4 to the iP4s. The iP4s is a wonderful piece of kit.
But, the iPhone 5 is better is every aspect.
P.S. October I will be upgrading to the iP5s. I would like to upgrade at every new iPhone iteration, but ATT and Sprint (I won't do Verizon) prohibit me.
When the iP5s is released and if it's offered by Walmart or Cricket as a Pre-paid phone, I will seriously consider it.
"F" Sprint, ATT and Verizon!
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Originally Posted by ankleskater
It was reported last fall that US had passed the 50% mark, and 54% in Jan this year. Perhaps the Eco is using dated data.
If you looked at the link, it says that the data is for 2012, so presumably that means all of 2012, close enough to January of this year.
The Economist is usually scrupulous about this sort of thing. It is the only publication anywhere in the world that I truly (nearly) wholly trust.
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Originally Posted by Ex iPhone Owner
I am actually disgusted by this spin.
Of course you would be. (Even granting the point that it's poorly worded).
Have you, obversely, been elated these past few days when many stories on this site made some people ask whether they were reading AndrodInsider? Did you post about how happy you were?
Thought so....
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
If you looked at the link, it says that the data is for 2012, so presumably that means all of 2012, close enough to January of this year.
The Economist is usually scrupulous about this sort of thing. It is the only publication anywhere in the world that I truly (nearly) wholly trust.
Nielsen pegged it right at 50% last February.
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2012/smartphones-account-for-half-of-all-mobile-phones-dominate-new-phone-purchases-in-the-us.html
Comscore agrees that US smartphone penetration surpassed 50% last year.
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Blog/Putting_the_2013_U.S._Digital_Future_in_Focus
Carrier data also supposedly confirms US smartphone adoption exceeds 50% as of at least last fall.
http://gigaom.com/2012/08/13/carrier-data-confirms-it-half-of-us-now-owns-a-smartphone/
I think the chart the Economist printed might have been from a presentation made last May but didn't go that far in looking at it.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Nielsen pegged it right at 50% last February.
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2012/smartphones-account-for-half-of-all-mobile-phones-dominate-new-phone-purchases-in-the-us.html
Comscore agrees that US smartphone penetration surpassed 50% last year.
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Blog/Putting_the_2013_U.S._Digital_Future_in_Focus
Carrier data also supposedly confirms US smartphone adoption exceeds 50% as of at least last fall.
http://gigaom.com/2012/08/13/carrier-data-confirms-it-half-of-us-now-owns-a-smartphone/
I think the chart the Economist printed might have been from a presentation made last May but didn't go that far in looking at it.
Clearly, you are not taking into account the rabbit-like increase in American birth rate.
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Originally Posted by Ex iPhone Owner
Okay, I like this site and understand it's slanted toward Apple, but this is the first time I have seen it pretty much write and post an untruth. Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4" is an outright lie.
If you read the actual report you will see that "android" did not lose 3.5%. Blackberry and Windows OS contributed also to that 3.5%. I am actually disgusted by this spin.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Do they have chimpanzees writing these headlines?
The headline reads "Apple's 3.5% smartphone share gain was Android's loss in Q4." However, when you read the story, Android was down 1.3%, Blackberry was down 1.9% and others were down slightly. So attributing the loss to Android is just plain wrong.
Headlines are often misleading. In fact, many reporters make it clear that they write the articles and not the headlines. Having said this, the headline here is SPOT ON. A cookie for the first between you two chimpanzees to figure it out.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Nielsen pegged it right at 50% last February.
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2012/smartphones-account-for-half-of-all-mobile-phones-dominate-new-phone-purchases-in-the-us.html
Comscore agrees that US smartphone penetration surpassed 50% last year.
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Blog/Putting_the_2013_U.S._Digital_Future_in_Focus
Carrier data also supposedly confirms US smartphone adoption exceeds 50% as of at least last fall.
http://gigaom.com/2012/08/13/carrier-data-confirms-it-half-of-us-now-owns-a-smartphone/
I think the chart the Economist printed might have been from a presentation made last May but didn't go that far in looking at it.
Nonsense.
This is typical of your posts. You seemingly look at the first couple of links that a Google search throws up and try to sound like you know the data or what you're talking about.
Look at the Dec 2012 update from KPCB, not the "presentation made last May". Here, let me help you (hint: p. 7): http://www.kpcb.com/insights/2012-internet-trends-update (albeit the data is for June 2012).
(Add: None of your links say anything otherwise. The Nielsen data is for 2011; the Comscore data says "it is reaching 50%" (not surpassing like you claim); the carrier data you point to only shows that ATT is higher than 50%; the KPCB data is the latest, and most comprehensive that I've seen, and that's the one that The Economist refers to).
I'm not sure why one would put KPCB above comScore or whoever. Don't take the numbers as exact. Reporting anything to the 3rd digit here is stupid, and the 2nd digit won't be that reliable.
And yes, the headline is inaccurate, but that's par for the course. The only to stop that is to stop clicking it or tapping it. Not sure what can be done really.
Nielson said it passed 50% in March 2012.
Comscore said it passed 50% in 2012.
The KPBC source said it was 48%.
You guys are picking nits.
The upshot is, about half of US subs are using a smartphone, within a few points either way.
Edit: THT beat me to it.
Originally Posted by ankleskater
What if the iPad is lithium? After all, lithium was the last element made during the Big Bang! Say it ain't so!
Eh? And that means what? We're talking about stellar life cycles here. Stars end at iron in their cores.
I read few days ago they made 40 millions of SIII alone up to now. Your number is greatly underestimated although I wish it would be true.
You must also know Samsung IS making a substantial profits, so they are not giving away bulk of their phones if you consider the Galaxy is still cheaper than iPhone, don't they?
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
If you looked at the link, it says that the data is for 2012, so presumably that means all of 2012, close enough to January of this year.
The Economist is usually scrupulous about this sort of thing. It is the only publication anywhere in the world that I truly (nearly) wholly trust.
Even The Economist sometimes gets things badly wrong, like siding with climate change denial. BS detection when reading everything is called for.
Sort of. Then the star disappears in a supernova explosion (if the star is the right size) and the heavier elements are created.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Of course you would be. (Even granting the point that it's poorly worded).
Have you, obversely, been elated these past few days when many stories on this site made some people ask whether they were reading AndrodInsider? Did you post about how happy you were?
Thought so....
You don't know me. I will buy an iPhone again as soon as they make the screen bigger. With my old eyes I don't want to have to put on readers every time I want to check email or look at a website. Trust me, I will be first in line when Apple makes a phone that is at least the same size screen wise as the S3.
I want an Apple site that posts facts and truths; not some BS spin story.
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Originally Posted by ankleskater
Headlines are often misleading. In fact, many reporters make it clear that they write the articles and not the headlines. Having said this, the headline here is SPOT ON. A cookie for the first between you two chimpanzees to figure it out.
Android is not a smartphone... It's a smartphone platform. And the headline is specific about smartphones which there is no comparison when you look at the chart. The phones included in that 3.5% gain were also Blackberry and Windows smartphone platforms. You need to increase your reading comprehension.
Android v. iOS ... is over. Move on.