Researchers bypass Android encryption by exposing phones to freezing temperatures

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  • Reply 21 of 55
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member


    For the same reason that thieves avoid stealing Android phones, I would argue that it's not very likely that there is any useful or valuable data to be stolen from the average Android phone.

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  • Reply 22 of 55
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    "Apple wrote:
    [" url="/t/156354/researchers-bypass-android-encryption-by-exposing-phones-to-freezing-temperatures#post_2289642"]For the same reason that thieves avoid stealing Android phones, I would argue that it's not very likely that there is any useful or valuable data to be stolen from the average Android phone.

    Or maybe it's the opposite of that: http://pedantical.com/newest/2013/3/7/f-secure-finds-android-to-be-the-most-insecure-mobile-os
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  • Reply 23 of 55
    "Apple wrote:
    [" url="/t/156354/researchers-bypass-android-encryption-by-exposing-phones-to-freezing-temperatures#post_2289642"]For the same reason that thieves avoid stealing Android phones, I would argue that it's not very likely that there is any useful or valuable data to be stolen from the average Android phone.
    Yeah, nobody wants to see naked photos of your mother... :lol:
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  • Reply 24 of 55
    bleh1234bleh1234 Posts: 146member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    Or maybe it's the opposite of that: http://pedantical.com/newest/2013/3/7/f-secure-finds-android-to-be-the-most-insecure-mobile-os


     


     


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  • Reply 25 of 55
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member

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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    I thought Android freezes irrespective of temperature. 



     


    snaaaap. 

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  • Reply 26 of 55
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    Or maybe it's the opposite of that: http://pedantical.com/newest/2013/3/7/f-secure-finds-android-to-be-the-most-insecure-mobile-os


     


    The link is saying that Android is the most insecure OS. That I can definitely believe, though Android might need to see a therapist or two, because there are clearly some issues at play here. I'm merely theorizing that there isn't much of value to be found on a typical Android phone. Your link doesn't disprove that. 

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  • Reply 27 of 55
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member
    Er, because you can't remove an iPhone battery? Who knew that was actually a security feature! :lol:
    Considering the lengths they went to to do this bypass, I doubt a few torex screws is going to give them problems
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  • Reply 28 of 55
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    wait, shouldn't this be buried somewhere. Only Apple security risks should be headlined! /s
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  • Reply 29 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

    snaaaap. 


     


    It should; it's brittle from the cold.

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  • Reply 30 of 55

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    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    The exploit is obviously reliant on characteristics of the hardware and the OS is actually near irrelevant.  I am impressed that Android's encryption is good enought to be such a serious obstacle to require such a HW level exploit.

     



     


    Or just bypassing it all by making an emergency call and hitting the power button.  Seems iOS and Android have more in common than anyone is willing to admit.

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  • Reply 31 of 55
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member

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    Originally Posted by chazwatson View Post


     


    Or just bypassing it all by making an emergency call and hitting the power button.  Seems iOS and Android have more in common than anyone is willing to admit.



    Nice troll, but of course that exploit only exposed the iPhone's photos and contact list app.  Those aren't the reasons I use encryption on my devices.

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  • Reply 32 of 55
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    Cold temps can do wonders for a harddrive.


     


    A few years ago, the drive on a Macbook that I had suddenly died. It sounded like it had the click of death, because all it would do is make these nasty, loud clicking sounds every once in a while. The drive was totally done with. It wouldn't boot up at all and no data could be accessed from it.


     


    After some quick online research, I decided to put the drive in a ziplock bag, and I threw it in the freezer overnight. The next day I removed it from the freezer and I immediately hooked it up to a Mac, and I was able to retrieve most of the data that was on the drive. It worked for almost an hour, then it died again, and remained dead for good.





    Frosty tip, dude!  :)

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  • Reply 33 of 55
    flowneyflowney Posts: 53member
    This technique has been around for at least a year and should work against almost any Flash memory. That would include MacBook Air/Pro laptops with Flash drives as well as just about every mobile device out there.
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  • Reply 34 of 55
    chazwatson wrote: »
    Or just bypassing it all by making an emergency call and hitting the power button.  Seems iOS and Android have more in common than anyone is willing to admit.

    If an egg shell were unbreakable it would no longer serve its primary purpose. As is, it does a fairly good job of balancing its objectives.
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  • Reply 35 of 55
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member


    Very cool.

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  • Reply 36 of 55
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Spies learned this trick during the Cold War.
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  • Reply 37 of 55
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stike vomit View Post




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by "Apple 

    [" url="/t/156354/researchers-bypass-android-encryption-by-exposing-phones-to-freezing-temperatures#post_2289642"]For the same reason that thieves avoid stealing Android phones, I would argue that it's not very likely that there is any useful or valuable data to be stolen from the average Android phone.


    Yeah, nobody wants to see naked photos of your mother... image


     


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    The manager introduced me and said "Mac, this is the person I recommended..."


     


    Mac turned to me and...


     


    Mac: "Do you have any naked pictures of your wife?"


     


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  • Reply 38 of 55
    rot'napplerot'napple Posts: 1,839member
    Okay, no one is going to say it so I will...

    CHILLING!
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  • Reply 39 of 55
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by akf2000 View Post


    my wife often reaches these temperatures in bed. 



    You're just holding her wrong!

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  • Reply 40 of 55
    newbee wrote: »
    You're just holding her wrong!

    I've heard attenuation can be painful...
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