"This loophole let them start it up with some custom-built software rather than its onboard Android operating system,"
So was the software already installed on the phone, previous to their experiment, or did they install the software afterwards? This detail is actually pretty important.
A few years ago, the drive on a Macbook that I had suddenly died. It sounded like it had the click of death, because all it would do is make these nasty, loud clicking sounds every once in a while. The drive was totally done with. It wouldn't boot up at all and no data could be accessed from it.
After some quick online research, I decided to put the drive in a ziplock bag, and I threw it in the freezer overnight. The next day I removed it from the freezer and I immediately hooked it up to a Mac, and I was able to retrieve most of the data that was on the drive. It worked for almost an hour, then it died again, and remained dead for good.
They were able to something like this with Walt Disney's brain and extracted the story lines for two new animated movies and learned the real relationship between Donald Duck and his nephews.
A few years ago, the drive on a Macbook that I had suddenly died. It sounded like it had the click of death, because all it would do is make these nasty, loud clicking sounds every once in a while. The drive was totally done with. It wouldn't boot up at all and no data could be accessed from it.
After some quick online research, I decided to put the drive in a ziplock bag, and I threw it in the freezer overnight. The next day I removed it from the freezer and I immediately hooked it up to a Mac, and I was able to retrieve most of the data that was on the drive. It worked for almost an hour, then it died again, and remained dead for good.
They were able to something like this with Walt Disney's brain and extracted the story lines for two new animated movies and learned the real relationship between Donald Duck and his nephews.
Regardless of device or type, if you can physically alter it, odds are you can get to the data eventually.
The whole point of encrypting the drive is that, in the unfortunate case where a malicious party gets physical access, it would still be very difficult to access the data.
This is a case where a security feature does not fulfill its promise.
Now, that's a really strange one. Not only the fact that the bug exists, but the fact that someone was able to find it.
Not that strange.
This form of attack has been demonstrated as early as 2008 (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=655809) as a method to freeze the RAM of a laptop to uncover the whole disk encryption key in memory. A couple cans of liquid Air was enough to freeze the DRAM and capture the entered (at last boot) the key from memory (accessing the RAM as a raw data device).
They could manufacture the phone to explode below a threshold temperature. Canadians would have to buy phone muffs to keep from blowing their hands off.
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"This loophole let them start it up with some custom-built software rather than its onboard Android operating system,"
So was the software already installed on the phone, previous to their experiment, or did they install the software afterwards? This detail is actually pretty important.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Cold temps can do wonders for a harddrive.
A few years ago, the drive on a Macbook that I had suddenly died. It sounded like it had the click of death, because all it would do is make these nasty, loud clicking sounds every once in a while. The drive was totally done with. It wouldn't boot up at all and no data could be accessed from it.
After some quick online research, I decided to put the drive in a ziplock bag, and I threw it in the freezer overnight. The next day I removed it from the freezer and I immediately hooked it up to a Mac, and I was able to retrieve most of the data that was on the drive. It worked for almost an hour, then it died again, and remained dead for good.
They were able to something like this with Walt Disney's brain and extracted the story lines for two new animated movies and learned the real relationship between Donald Duck and his nephews.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Cold temps can do wonders for a harddrive.
A few years ago, the drive on a Macbook that I had suddenly died. It sounded like it had the click of death, because all it would do is make these nasty, loud clicking sounds every once in a while. The drive was totally done with. It wouldn't boot up at all and no data could be accessed from it.
After some quick online research, I decided to put the drive in a ziplock bag, and I threw it in the freezer overnight. The next day I removed it from the freezer and I immediately hooked it up to a Mac, and I was able to retrieve most of the data that was on the drive. It worked for almost an hour, then it died again, and remained dead for good.
They were able to something like this with Walt Disney's brain and extracted the story lines for two new animated movies and learned the real relationship between Donald Duck and his nephews.
But what is Goofy?
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
But what is Goofy?
I would say the whole scenario sounds pretty goofy...
The whole point of encrypting the drive is that, in the unfortunate case where a malicious party gets physical access, it would still be very difficult to access the data.
This is a case where a security feature does not fulfill its promise.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Now, that's a really strange one. Not only the fact that the bug exists, but the fact that someone was able to find it.
Not that strange.
This form of attack has been demonstrated as early as 2008 (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=655809) as a method to freeze the RAM of a laptop to uncover the whole disk encryption key in memory. A couple cans of liquid Air was enough to freeze the DRAM and capture the entered (at last boot) the key from memory (accessing the RAM as a raw data device).
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my wife often reaches these temperatures in bed.
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }Are you saying she is insecure?
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Originally Posted by malax
This sounds like bad science fiction. Impressive work by those Germans.
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }The Germans respond: ve have our vays...
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They could manufacture the phone to explode below a threshold temperature. Canadians would have to buy phone muffs to keep from blowing their hands off.
Of course, the freezing RAM method would work on any device... including iPhones.
OTOH, perhaps Apple has anti-freeze protection already built in by accident:
j/k
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