I'm not surprised at all. These figures aren't shocking, they merely show the sad reality and the current pathetic state of Android. As Samsung recently found out, there's a big difference between manufacturing and paying for false hype versus the genuine enthusiasm and excitement that happens with many Apple product releases.
Besides the geekiest and the most mentally disturbed of Fandroids, those few people who are chained in their basements and likes to spend their nights updating to the newest ROM, and the few people who like to spend their days trolling Apple forums which they have no business being on, the average person does not care much about Android. The average Android user is using a phone that is running a very old, outdated and poor performing OS which is barely better than a feature phone.
Fandroids think that innovation is releasing a phone that is .5 inches bigger than the last one. Android has done virtually nothing to advance tech. On the contrary, Android is a hinder to tech advancement, as Android has helped to usher in the era of "the race to the bottom". Most Android tablets are nothing but pollution, cheap pieces of crap that will very soon end up in a huge pile of scrap. If I were one of those bat shit insane environmentalists, I would be very concerned.
Also, the average person buys his phone with no idea what he buys, and that average person buys an Android phone because that's what the carrier guys suggest to him. You're not helping the Apple cause, as usual, by sounding like a raging AAPL-owner looking at stock prices. Not that I can blame you on the latter point.
Edit: Also, please keep in mind that _some_ people cannot afford an iPhone and are pretty happy to have a cheaper solution. Android is, contrary to what you say, a pretty good system, that can run on pretty good hardware, especially in the pure Google iterations ( I don't personally own one of these, but some colleagues do, and they're far from stupid, to say the least).
Comparing bad Android phones to the iPhone and ignoring the good Android phones only show your bias, not a failure in Android, you know?
The problems are the possible infringements, the lack of quality (imho) of the Samsung phones, GSn comprised, the lack of security (balanced with the freedom it enables... and that is pretty important, especially if you take into account that the general public prefers a secure place with lots of policemen and militia to a dangerously free place... history shows that the general public is wrong about that particular point), but Samsung is not Android, and Android is an innovative and interesting system.
Also, the average person buys his phone with no idea what he buys, and that average person buys an Android phone because that's what the carrier guys suggest to him. You're not helping the Apple cause, as usual, by sounding like a raging AAPL-owner looking at stock prices. Not that I can blame you on the latter point.
I'm not holding any AAPL at the moment, so that is of no concern to me. And I'm not here to help anybody or to help any particular cause. I just come here to speak my mind, regardless if it's helping somebody or not.
Anybody cooool enough knows that Galaxy S4 owners are raving about their new device in mini-broadway shows instead of on Twitter. Duh. Twitter and the iPhone are soooo off-Broadway.
Self quoting myself, but I just realized that the solution Apple uses on Mountain Lion could work out on Android: having only curated, signed software run on Android, unless the user specifically allows it, which means he knows what he's doing.
Another idea would be to have a self-reinstalling copy of the system and all the data "in the cloud". Not a solution I'd want for myself, but I'm not "the average guy"... Also, I have an iPhone
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the lack of security (balanced with the freedom it enables... and that is pretty important, especially if you take into account that the general public prefers a secure place with lots of policemen and militia to a dangerously free place... history shows that the general public is wrong about that particular point)
I'm not holding any AAPL at the moment, so that is of no concern to me. And I'm not here to help anybody or to help any particular cause. I just come here to speak my mind, regardless if it's helping somebody or not.
Yeah those 14 to 17 year old pubs can skew some data. My daughter does text/tweet between 60K and 75 thousand a month on her IP5. Me, on the other hand, would have kept my pager if I was into that. When I have a phone, I want to talk to somebody. No lols or OMG, etc. ever 2 seconds.
Fortunately Google's stock was down more than Apple's today, so for all those people who give a crap about things that shouldn't matter, that should make them feel a little better.
Self quoting myself, but I just realized that the solution Apple uses on Mountain Lion could work out on Android: having only curated, signed software run on Android, unless the user specifically allows it, which means he knows what he's doing.
Another idea would be to have a self-reinstalling copy of the system and all the data "in the cloud". Not a solution I'd want for myself, but I'm not "the average guy"... Also, I have an iPhone
The Apps in Google Play are still being found to be compromised, so until they vet the Apps it still won't fix the problem.
Anybody cooool enough knows that Galaxy S4 owners are raving about their new device in mini-broadway shows instead of on Twitter. Duh. Twitter and the iPhone are soooo off-Broadway.
I'm going to venture that "launch" in the case of both the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S4 refers to their launch events - not the sale release date
That's like saying the manned rocket mission to Mars has already been launched simply by announcing plans for one. At any rate, it's poor wording.
If poor wording were an issue, many stories on AI would qualify.
You seem to be taking it way too literally. I think it just meant announcement date. The article also uses the word 'debut' -- what do you reckon that means?
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I'm not surprised at all. These figures aren't shocking, they merely show the sad reality and the current pathetic state of Android. As Samsung recently found out, there's a big difference between manufacturing and paying for false hype versus the genuine enthusiasm and excitement that happens with many Apple product releases.
Besides the geekiest and the most mentally disturbed of Fandroids, those few people who are chained in their basements and likes to spend their nights updating to the newest ROM, and the few people who like to spend their days trolling Apple forums which they have no business being on, the average person does not care much about Android. The average Android user is using a phone that is running a very old, outdated and poor performing OS which is barely better than a feature phone.
Fandroids think that innovation is releasing a phone that is .5 inches bigger than the last one. Android has done virtually nothing to advance tech. On the contrary, Android is a hinder to tech advancement, as Android has helped to usher in the era of "the race to the bottom". Most Android tablets are nothing but pollution, cheap pieces of crap that will very soon end up in a huge pile of scrap. If I were one of those bat shit insane environmentalists, I would be very concerned.
Also, the average person buys his phone with no idea what he buys, and that average person buys an Android phone because that's what the carrier guys suggest to him. You're not helping the Apple cause, as usual, by sounding like a raging AAPL-owner looking at stock prices. Not that I can blame you on the latter point.
Edit: Also, please keep in mind that _some_ people cannot afford an iPhone and are pretty happy to have a cheaper solution. Android is, contrary to what you say, a pretty good system, that can run on pretty good hardware, especially in the pure Google iterations ( I don't personally own one of these, but some colleagues do, and they're far from stupid, to say the least).
Comparing bad Android phones to the iPhone and ignoring the good Android phones only show your bias, not a failure in Android, you know?
The problems are the possible infringements, the lack of quality (imho) of the Samsung phones, GSn comprised, the lack of security (balanced with the freedom it enables... and that is pretty important, especially if you take into account that the general public prefers a secure place with lots of policemen and militia to a dangerously free place... history shows that the general public is wrong about that particular point), but Samsung is not Android, and Android is an innovative and interesting system.
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But the source is PiperJaffray. I think that image says it's from Investing Analysis, not AI, which includes the word launch.
Well, Ai says it's Investing Analytics: http://www.investinganalytics.net/ but I don't quite know who they are
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Originally Posted by lightknight
Also, the average person buys his phone with no idea what he buys, and that average person buys an Android phone because that's what the carrier guys suggest to him. You're not helping the Apple cause, as usual, by sounding like a raging AAPL-owner looking at stock prices. Not that I can blame you on the latter point.
I'm not holding any AAPL at the moment, so that is of no concern to me. And I'm not here to help anybody or to help any particular cause. I just come here to speak my mind, regardless if it's helping somebody or not.
Self quoting myself, but I just realized that the solution Apple uses on Mountain Lion could work out on Android: having only curated, signed software run on Android, unless the user specifically allows it, which means he knows what he's doing.
Another idea would be to have a self-reinstalling copy of the system and all the data "in the cloud". Not a solution I'd want for myself, but I'm not "the average guy"... Also, I have an iPhone
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Originally Posted by lightknight
the lack of security (balanced with the freedom it enables... and that is pretty important, especially if you take into account that the general public prefers a secure place with lots of policemen and militia to a dangerously free place... history shows that the general public is wrong about that particular point)
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What I don't get is why this is being compared now when the launch date isn't until April 26th, 2013.
I'm going to venture that "launch" in the case of both the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S4 refers to their launch events - not the sale release date
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Meanwhile stock of Apple is still going down...
Hey, maybe I can buy some of it soon? Hopefully Apple][ will throw his away? Gimme?
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I'm not holding any AAPL at the moment, so that is of no concern to me. And I'm not here to help anybody or to help any particular cause. I just come here to speak my mind, regardless if it's helping somebody or not.
Good! So do we
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Android is, contrary to what you say, a pretty good system...
Well, it was the second best system Apple ever created...
That's like saying the manned rocket mission to Mars has already been launched simply by announcing plans for one. At any rate, it's poor wording.
Yeah those 14 to 17 year old pubs can skew some data. My daughter does text/tweet between 60K and 75 thousand a month on her IP5. Me, on the other hand, would have kept my pager if I was into that. When I have a phone, I want to talk to somebody. No lols or OMG, etc. ever 2 seconds.
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That's like saying the manned rocket mission to Mars has already been launched simply by announcing plans for one. At any rate, it's poor wording.
If it works, it will solve a lot of NASA's funding problems
Because it is not comparing launch date data but announcement day data.
Originally Posted by ElFig2012
Meanwhile stock of Apple is still going down...
Fortunately Google's stock was down more than Apple's today, so for all those people who give a crap about things that shouldn't matter, that should make them feel a little better.
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Anybody cooool enough knows that Galaxy S4 owners are raving about their new device in mini-broadway shows instead of on Twitter. Duh. Twitter and the iPhone are soooo off-Broadway.
Which Galaxy S4 owners would that be?
Geez fail
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cachet
If poor wording were an issue, many stories on AI would qualify.
You seem to be taking it way too literally. I think it just meant announcement date. The article also uses the word 'debut' -- what do you reckon that means?