I don't think Netflix buisness is tenable longterm because it simply acts as a middle man between the content creators and the consumer. Content providers are limiting what is available on Netflix. Just look at the movie line up on Netflix streaming its really limited. The only reason I have a netflix subscription is to get a few episodes of BBC series and a some from American netwokrs. It would not take much for Netflix's biz to go away as soon as the content prviders terminate the contracts they have with Netflix. Add to this the bill about to go thru congress forcing cable to provide a la cart pricing and Netflix will tank really fast imho. There are rumors that ESPN is negotiating with Apple to bring ESPN to Apple TV which isn't far fetched since Disney owns ESPN and Disney has deep links with Apple. Netflix has zero live sporting events. Need I go on? Netflix is serving a niche market right now , one which I think developments will soon overtake. Bottom line Netflix is not a first run medium and content providers are starting to use it as a bait and switch model by baiting us into watching new shows then not giving us new seasons hoping to tempt us back to cable. I can only get Scandle, Once upon a time on ABC's app not on Netflix. yeah I can watch old Season 1's on Netflix, which was okay but nothing recent. what format is my ABC app, MPEG4, html? what is that other 22% traffic share? What about NFL and baseball I have MLB AtBat. I really hope the NFL brings something to the table streaming soon
Definitely a stat that Netflix can use to get favorable deals for content.
huh, I don't understand how Netflix can use subscriber base as a bargaining chip unless it allows content providers to add commercials. One big advantage Netflix has is commercial free to attract subscribers. No the only thing that matters is how much money they can pony up on the table to add content and they dont have much money now do they
But then you go on to say that Apple should do the same thing.
I didn't say they should do anything, you are putting words in my mouth, I only said there are rumors, but anyways Apple doesn't just do business selling content it has Computers, iPhones, Ipads, Ipods and music. So my original statement stands Apple is more tenable company plus not reliant on one revenue stream. Cook said after all something like they will go into other new businesses. Netflix business model is only one revenue stream sort of like a Value Added Retailer. oh and just as an example of broadcast network fighting back : Tuesday saw the launch of a new version of broadcaster ABC's iOS app, one that for the first time will allow users in select markets to watch live television from a U.S. broadcaster. I imagine that very soon we will be able to subscribe to individual broadcast and cable channels via Apps, oh dear RIP Netflix
I don't think Netflix buisness is tenable longterm because it simply acts as a middle man between the content creators and the consumer. Content providers are limiting what is available on Netflix. Just look at the movie line up on Netflix streaming its really limited. The only reason I have a netflix subscription is to get a few episodes of BBC series and a some from American netwokrs. It would not take much for Netflix's biz to go away as soon as the content prviders terminate the contracts they have with Netflix. Add to this the bill about to go thru congress forcing cable to provide a la cart pricing and Netflix will tank really fast imho. There are rumors that ESPN is negotiating with Apple to bring ESPN to Apple TV which isn't far fetched since Disney owns ESPN and Disney has deep links with Apple. Netflix has zero live sporting events. Need I go on? Netflix is serving a niche market right now , one which I think developments will soon overtake. Bottom line Netflix is not a first run medium and content providers are starting to use it as a bait and switch model by baiting us into watching new shows then not giving us new seasons hoping to tempt us back to cable. I can only get Scandle, Once upon a time on ABC's app not on Netflix. yeah I can watch old Season 1's on Netflix, which was okay but nothing recent. what format is my ABC app, MPEG4, html? what is that other 22% traffic share? What about NFL and baseball I have MLB AtBat. I really hope the NFL brings something to the table streaming soon
Maybe that's why they've started making their own content.
Why even compare iTunes versus Netflix? They're different services entirely.
Yes, one is a subscription service and the other one a pay per view/item. It shows that in raw data consumed a subscription service pulls in an order of magnitude more than a pay/rent approach.
I'm a huge fan of Netflix. The $8/mo is such a small price to pay to keep my kids in line. "I'm cancelling Netfix" is a way more serious threat than any other punishment I could impose!
The downside is, I can now recite every episode of iCarly line for line.
Tuesday saw the launch of a new version of broadcaster ABC's iOS app, one that for the first time will allow users in select markets to watch live television from a U.S. broadcaster. I imagine that very soon we will be able to subscribe to individual broadcast and cable channels via Apps, oh dear RIP Netflix
What does live TV have to do with Netflix? Netflix has NEVER been a first run service. You will always be at least a season behind, but for $8 a month who can complain? When you start with faulty logic, you're going to come to faulty conclusions.
What does live TV have to do with Netflix? Netflix has NEVER been a first run service. You will always be at least a season behind, but for $8 a month who can complain? When you start with faulty logic, you're going to come to faulty conclusions.
That's not true anymore. Netflix is creating content so that's first run. Lillehammer is hilarious.
We're a Mac'd out household, four people, five Macs, but no one gets TV or Movies from Apple. We have a Roku with the cheapest Netflix deal and when someone wants something that's not on Netflix or the other Roku channels, like a current movie, we do a one-shot Amazon. Works great for our needs and the bill is small.
[...] Apple's iTunes is responsible for nearly 2 percent of all Internet traffic at those hours. That places the storefront ahead of websites like Facebook, which accounts for 1.48 percent, and Amazon, which takes 1.31 percent.
What an utterly ridiculous, meaningless statement!
One guy downloading one movie will use up as much bandwidth as 10,000 people surfing Facebook all night! Duh, movies are big, web pages are small. It's a comparison of bandwidth consumption, not popularity!
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Originally Posted by Paul94544
I don't think Netflix buisness is tenable longterm because it simply acts as a middle man between the content creators and the consumer.
But then you go on to say that Apple should do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Definitely a stat that Netflix can use to get favorable deals for content.
huh, I don't understand how Netflix can use subscriber base as a bargaining chip unless it allows content providers to add commercials. One big advantage Netflix has is commercial free to attract subscribers. No the only thing that matters is how much money they can pony up on the table to add content and they dont have much money now do they
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
But then you go on to say that Apple should do the same thing.
I didn't say they should do anything, you are putting words in my mouth, I only said there are rumors, but anyways Apple doesn't just do business selling content it has Computers, iPhones, Ipads, Ipods and music. So my original statement stands Apple is more tenable company plus not reliant on one revenue stream. Cook said after all something like they will go into other new businesses. Netflix business model is only one revenue stream sort of like a Value Added Retailer. oh and just as an example of broadcast network fighting back : Tuesday saw the launch of a new version of broadcaster ABC's iOS app, one that for the first time will allow users in select markets to watch live television from a U.S. broadcaster. I imagine that very soon we will be able to subscribe to individual broadcast and cable channels via Apps, oh dear RIP Netflix
Maybe that's why they've started making their own content.
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Originally Posted by MJ1970
And is "erotica" a clever way of saying porn?
It is one way of describing that, yes. But I was not seeking to be clever, I just didn't know if AppleInsider would censor that word in the forums.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Maybe that's why they've started making their own content.
Love your quotes
Here's another in the same vain:
"Convention is not Morality" from Jane Eyre
No.
The video owners were worried that Apple would dictate the terms, which is why so many studios held back on their deals with Apple.
Thanks, I'll see if I can add it.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Why even compare iTunes versus Netflix? They're different services entirely.
Yes, one is a subscription service and the other one a pay per view/item. It shows that in raw data consumed a subscription service pulls in an order of magnitude more than a pay/rent approach.
The downside is, I can now recite every episode of iCarly line for line.
What does live TV have to do with Netflix? Netflix has NEVER been a first run service. You will always be at least a season behind, but for $8 a month who can complain? When you start with faulty logic, you're going to come to faulty conclusions.
That's not true anymore. Netflix is creating content so that's first run. Lillehammer is hilarious.
We're a Mac'd out household, four people, five Macs, but no one gets TV or Movies from Apple. We have a Roku with the cheapest Netflix deal and when someone wants something that's not on Netflix or the other Roku channels, like a current movie, we do a one-shot Amazon. Works great for our needs and the bill is small.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
[...] Apple's iTunes is responsible for nearly 2 percent of all Internet traffic at those hours. That places the storefront ahead of websites like Facebook, which accounts for 1.48 percent, and Amazon, which takes 1.31 percent.
What an utterly ridiculous, meaningless statement!
One guy downloading one movie will use up as much bandwidth as 10,000 people surfing Facebook all night! Duh, movies are big, web pages are small. It's a comparison of bandwidth consumption, not popularity!