In general Id say if you use some ones feeds you should obay there terms, but this is google. They crawl sites for pictures, news etc and strip out your ads. Then the only way to stop them is for you to put a file on your server to say "please don't steel from me" and this is somehow fine.
As foe ad blocks, i don't see the issue. People should be able to use whatever they want to browse the web. If someone's website doesn't manage to show its ads then that's the sites fault. Plus so you ever think about how much you are paying in bandwidth for the ads?
If google wants Microsoft to take down the youtube app then google should make their own wp8 app. It is that simple.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Google has the right to protect the use of their property without being forced to provide a solution if they so desire.
Now, what I'm sure they can't do is disallow all access to YouTube via Microsoft products (have the site check for a version of Windows; if so, blank page, if not, YouTube), for example.
If google wants Microsoft to take down the youtube app then google should make their own wp8 app. It is that simple.
Microsoft should be perfectly capable of creating a YouTube app that respects the TOS. They try to blame it on not having access to the proper API's IIRC, yet somehow they worked it out for their XBox didn't they? AFAIK YouTube access works as it should there.
Microsoft should be perfectly capable of creating a YouTube app that respects the TOS. They try to blame it on not having access to the proper API's IIRC, yet somehow they worked it out for their XBox didn't they? AFAIK YouTube access works as it should there.
Bogus excuse IMHO.
Google should have been perfectly capable of creating a phone OS that respected Oracle's TOS for Java. Instead Google shafts Oracle and copies the Java headers. Google also doesn't respect copyrights on many other fronts (think books, copyrighted videos, music, etc.) yet they want their advertising money.
Earning money off the copyrighted products produced by others is pretty darn slimy!
Google should have been perfectly capable of creating a phone OS that respected Oracle's TOS for Java. Instead Google shafts Oracle and copies the Java headers. Google also doesn't respect copyrights on many other fronts (think books, copyrighted videos, music, etc.) yet they want their advertising money.
Earning money off the copyrighted products produced by others is pretty darn slimy!
And whether or not any of that is true doesn't change a thing about Microsoft's YouTube app for Wind Phone8. If MS can do it properly for the XBox why do you think they chose not to for the phones? If they're benefiting a MS product and blocking someone else's ability to monetize their own content it would be equally as slimy if not worse, would it not?
You're assuming that Microsoft made the app for the Xbox. It is possible that either Google made it for the Xbox, or that Microsoft made it for the Xbox and the APIs are under NDA.
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As foe ad blocks, i don't see the issue. People should be able to use whatever they want to browse the web. If someone's website doesn't manage to show its ads then that's the sites fault. Plus so you ever think about how much you are paying in bandwidth for the ads?
Originally Posted by majortom1981
If google wants Microsoft to take down the youtube app then google should make their own wp8 app. It is that simple.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Google has the right to protect the use of their property without being forced to provide a solution if they so desire.
Now, what I'm sure they can't do is disallow all access to YouTube via Microsoft products (have the site check for a version of Windows; if so, blank page, if not, YouTube), for example.
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Originally Posted by majortom1981
If google wants Microsoft to take down the youtube app then google should make their own wp8 app. It is that simple.
Microsoft should be perfectly capable of creating a YouTube app that respects the TOS. They try to blame it on not having access to the proper API's IIRC, yet somehow they worked it out for their XBox didn't they? AFAIK YouTube access works as it should there.
Bogus excuse IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Microsoft should be perfectly capable of creating a YouTube app that respects the TOS. They try to blame it on not having access to the proper API's IIRC, yet somehow they worked it out for their XBox didn't they? AFAIK YouTube access works as it should there.
Bogus excuse IMHO.
Google should have been perfectly capable of creating a phone OS that respected Oracle's TOS for Java. Instead Google shafts Oracle and copies the Java headers. Google also doesn't respect copyrights on many other fronts (think books, copyrighted videos, music, etc.) yet they want their advertising money.
Earning money off the copyrighted products produced by others is pretty darn slimy!
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Originally Posted by DaveN
Google should have been perfectly capable of creating a phone OS that respected Oracle's TOS for Java. Instead Google shafts Oracle and copies the Java headers. Google also doesn't respect copyrights on many other fronts (think books, copyrighted videos, music, etc.) yet they want their advertising money.
Earning money off the copyrighted products produced by others is pretty darn slimy!
And whether or not any of that is true doesn't change a thing about Microsoft's YouTube app for Wind Phone8. If MS can do it properly for the XBox why do you think they chose not to for the phones? If they're benefiting a MS product and blocking someone else's ability to monetize their own content it would be equally as slimy if not worse, would it not?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
If they did that on TV an hour long show would be 30 minutes or less. It's already pretty outrageous that it's only 50 minutes now.
44, actually.
You're assuming that Microsoft made the app for the Xbox. It is possible that either Google made it for the Xbox, or that Microsoft made it for the Xbox and the APIs are under NDA.