People think Apple invented the smartphone period (no one here I don't think or on any tech site but out in the world), they think they invented capacitive screens, multi touch, installable apps, MP3 players, tablets, the mouse, the GUI, and that's all I can think of.
There would probably be a lot less resistance to giving credit where credit is due if people didn't try and give ALL credit where it isn't due.
Quite honestly the people I know spend very little time thinking about who invented what. They just use the devices they like and get on with their life. It's just the media and tech press that is obsessed with who was first at something. But if we're going to go down this path how many things has Google been first at? They might be the best at what they do but where were they first?
To be fair it's better to be safe than sorry. Even today people credit Apple with inventing things they didn't invent. Perfected? Refined? Evolved? Sure. But not invent.
You know, I've never heard a single person in real life, or read a single time on the internet, a claim from ANYONE that Apple invented anything that trolls who want to bash Apple and Apple users keep insisting is actually happening. It's just a cowardly straw man.
LOL APPLE FANBOYS THINK APPLE INVENTED EVERYTHING
Why the hell don't you provide some specific examples, or ONE specific example of what you state? Ina desperate attempt to bash Apple or pretend that anyone who uses an Apple product is ill informed and ignorant, the claim you make is repeated again, and again, and again- yet I've yet to hear or read a single instance that backs up that claim. You pretend that people are saying things that they're not. What is the meaning of "invent" anyway? Apple developed the first modern smartphone and the first modern tablet, which became the templates for pretty much all smartphones and tablets today. These products contained thousands of innovations, both software and hardware, so I'm not sure at what point you can put a stamp of "invent" on anything anymore. It is not possible at this point for a single company to create something COMPLETELY NEW in a vacuum, that has never ever been attempted in any way by anyone else, and the whole nothing of claiming "lol apple didn't invent anything" is so inherently childish. The word has become meaningless and irrelevant, used to dismiss and mock real innovations that are actually moving things forward. I can tell from your username you're going to be quite the tiresome troll.
You know, I've never heard a single person in real life, or read a single time on the internet, a claim from ANYONE that Apple invented anything that trolls who want to bash Apple and Apple users keep insisting is actually happening. It's just a cowardly straw man.
LOL APPLE FANBOYS THINK APPLE INVENTED EVERYTHING
Why the hell don't you provide some specific examples, or ONE specific example of what you state? Ina desperate attempt to bash Apple or pretend that anyone who uses an Apple product is ill informed and ignorant, the claim you make is repeated again, and again, and again- yet I've yet to hear or read a single instance that backs up that claim. You pretend that people are saying things that they're not. I can tell from your username you're going to be quite the tiresome troll.
You are being excessively hostile for no reason. Just don't talk to me and I won't talk to you. If you see me post assume it was directed at everyone but you. I don't have time for people who get so worked up over such a harmless comment to the point of calling me all sorts of names. What the hell is wrong with you?
One-third of the Galaxy S4 models don't come with LTE. This includes the International version with the big.LITTLE architecture. Can you image the backlash if Apple had LTE in a device one year and then removed it the next year?
What are you implying with this comment? Many parts of the world do not have LTE service, yet, therefore the S4 is tweaked for those markets. This is the same thing they did with the S3 - the international version did not have LTE.
Do all iPhone 5's sold in all markets have LTE? No. It doesn't in China (model ME039CH/A), and I hear the backlash has been horrible, Apple has only sold millions of the iPhone 5 to the Chinese.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Except it's kind of pointless to try and have a meaningful conversation such nitpickers....
Sigh. Not the first time, and it won't won't be the last, with your posts.
When someone is wrong they're wrong screw context. It shouldn't matter if it's pro-Apple or con-Apple. I've been wrong plenty on here, and have been corrected. I'm just paying it forward.
[QUOTE=runbuh]Do all iPhone 5's sold in all markets have LTE? No. It doesn't in China (model ME039CH/A), and I hear the backlash has been horrible, Apple has only sold millions of the iPhone 5 to the Chinese.[/QUOTE]
So Apple took LTE out of the iPhone 5 for China? Really?! Or are you improperly stating that LTE is not supported on China Telecom or China Unicom for the iPhone 5 as the LTE in the device is not compatible with the LTE options for those carriers in that country?
I think you are missing the point. Samsung's growth is smoke and mirrors. This became clear when they were forced to supply real sales numbers during trial. They shipped 10 Million in 30 days to stores. Apple sold half that many in three days with supply limitations but this same company claimed Apple's 1.7 Million per day was a failure, while Samsung's 333 thousand per day is a great success.
The court document revealed Samsung 2010 US sales only. *yawn*
Samsung is hurting HTC, Sony and other Android manufacturers the most making 94.7% of Android handset PROFITS last quarter, LG took 2.5% all the others share the rest between them.
It seems the American press favours foreign companies over their own, do they want a world which is 100% Samsung?
Will the world be happy when Google's "freedom of choice" boils down to which Samsung handset to buy?
Not really.. HTC, Sony and other Android manufacturer's achieved the level of sales / profit Samsung did.
Sure, how can the American press favor a US company that funnels' most of its profit to oversea subsidiaries and employee slave-wage laborers (cough*)?
People think Apple invented the smartphone period (no one here I don't think or on any tech site but out in the world), they think they invented capacitive screens, multi touch, installable apps, MP3 players, tablets, the mouse, the GUI, and that's all I can think of.
There would probably be a lot less resistance to giving credit where credit is due if people didn't try and give ALL credit where it isn't due.
Apple invented multi-touch smartphone. Your logic is very twisted. According to your logic a great artist did not create a great painting. He just used different colors of paints and put them on a canvas. And all software developers did not create anything. They just type the ASIC characters into files.
That thing on which you can't even put apps? YEP! Ha!
Originally Posted by realitychecks
Perfected? Refined? Evolved? Sure. But not invent.
Like what? Nonsense.
Originally Posted by pedromartins
Nobody invented anything. Everything is evolution from something. Even the wheel is an evolution from a square, for practical uses.
Ha! That's a great one.
Originally Posted by realitychecks
You are being excessively hostile for no reason. Just don't talk to me and I won't talk to you. If you see me post assume it was directed at everyone but you. I don't have time for people who get so worked up over such a harmless comment to the point of calling me all sorts of names. What the hell is wrong with you?
Then don't post on a public forum. What's wrong with YOU?!
So Apple took LTE out of the iPhone 5 for China? Really?! Or are you improperly stating that LTE is not supported on China Telecom or China Unicom for the iPhone 5 as the LTE in the device is not compatible with the LTE options for those carriers in that country?
LTE can be activated by a carrier update, like my one did last week as my network prepares to roll out LTE.
Apple invented multi-touch smartphone. Your logic is very twisted. According to your logic a great artist did not create a great painting. He just used different colors of paints and put them on a canvas. And all software developers did not create anything. They just type the ASIC characters into files.
What? I know they created the whole. Some people credit them with making the parts. A capacitive screen is useless if improperly implemented. But even if you implemented it properly (perhaps even perfectly as I've yet to see a superior) doesn't mean you invented it. Stop looking for a fight where none exists.
Yes, there was an option to get LTE in the International model HENCE MY FUCKING POST!!!
WHAT FUCKING INTERNATIONAL MODEL HAD A FUCKING OPTION TO GET FUCKING LTE AS MENTIONED IN YOUR FUCKING POST THAT IS NOW FUCKING NO LONGER AVAILABLE WITH FUCKING LTE?
International variants:
The S3 GT-I9300 has no LTE. The S3 GT-I9305 has LTE.
The S4 GT-I9500 has no LTE. The S4 GT-I9505 has LTE.
WHAT FUCKING INTERNATIONAL MODEL HAD A FUCKING OPTION TO GET FUCKING LTE AS MENTIONED IN YOUR FUCKING POST THAT IS NOW FUCKING NO LONGER AVAILABLE AS WITH FUCKING LTE?
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Originally Posted by realitychecks
To be fair it's better to be safe than sorry. Even today people credit Apple with inventing things they didn't invent. Perfected? Refined? Evolved? Sure. But not invent.
You know, I've never heard a single person in real life, or read a single time on the internet, a claim from ANYONE that Apple invented anything that trolls who want to bash Apple and Apple users keep insisting is actually happening. It's just a cowardly straw man.
LOL APPLE FANBOYS THINK APPLE INVENTED EVERYTHING
Why the hell don't you provide some specific examples, or ONE specific example of what you state? Ina desperate attempt to bash Apple or pretend that anyone who uses an Apple product is ill informed and ignorant, the claim you make is repeated again, and again, and again- yet I've yet to hear or read a single instance that backs up that claim. You pretend that people are saying things that they're not. What is the meaning of "invent" anyway? Apple developed the first modern smartphone and the first modern tablet, which became the templates for pretty much all smartphones and tablets today. These products contained thousands of innovations, both software and hardware, so I'm not sure at what point you can put a stamp of "invent" on anything anymore. It is not possible at this point for a single company to create something COMPLETELY NEW in a vacuum, that has never ever been attempted in any way by anyone else, and the whole nothing of claiming "lol apple didn't invent anything" is so inherently childish. The word has become meaningless and irrelevant, used to dismiss and mock real innovations that are actually moving things forward. I can tell from your username you're going to be quite the tiresome troll.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
It wouldn't be apt which is my point.
You obviously have trouble understanding context.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Except it's kind of pointless to try and have a meaningful conversation such nitpickers....
Sigh. Not the first time, and it won't won't be the last, with your posts.
You are being excessively hostile for no reason. Just don't talk to me and I won't talk to you. If you see me post assume it was directed at everyone but you. I don't have time for people who get so worked up over such a harmless comment to the point of calling me all sorts of names. What the hell is wrong with you?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
One-third of the Galaxy S4 models don't come with LTE. This includes the International version with the big.LITTLE architecture. Can you image the backlash if Apple had LTE in a device one year and then removed it the next year?
What are you implying with this comment? Many parts of the world do not have LTE service, yet, therefore the S4 is tweaked for those markets. This is the same thing they did with the S3 - the international version did not have LTE.
Do all iPhone 5's sold in all markets have LTE? No. It doesn't in China (model ME039CH/A), and I hear the backlash has been horrible, Apple has only sold millions of the iPhone 5 to the Chinese.
When someone is wrong they're wrong screw context. It shouldn't matter if it's pro-Apple or con-Apple. I've been wrong plenty on here, and have been corrected. I'm just paying it forward.
Yes, there was an option to get LTE in the International model HENCE MY FUCKING POST!!!
So Apple took LTE out of the iPhone 5 for China? Really?! Or are you improperly stating that LTE is not supported on China Telecom or China Unicom for the iPhone 5 as the LTE in the device is not compatible with the LTE options for those carriers in that country?
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Originally Posted by genovelle
I think you are missing the point. Samsung's growth is smoke and mirrors. This became clear when they were forced to supply real sales numbers during trial. They shipped 10 Million in 30 days to stores. Apple sold half that many in three days with supply limitations but this same company claimed Apple's 1.7 Million per day was a failure, while Samsung's 333 thousand per day is a great success.
The court document revealed Samsung 2010 US sales only. *yawn*
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Originally Posted by hill60
Samsung is hurting HTC, Sony and other Android manufacturers the most making 94.7% of Android handset PROFITS last quarter, LG took 2.5% all the others share the rest between them.
It seems the American press favours foreign companies over their own, do they want a world which is 100% Samsung?
Will the world be happy when Google's "freedom of choice" boils down to which Samsung handset to buy?
Not really.. HTC, Sony and other Android manufacturer's achieved the level of sales / profit Samsung did.
Sure, how can the American press favor a US company that funnels' most of its profit to oversea subsidiaries and employee slave-wage laborers (cough*)?
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Originally Posted by realitychecks
People think Apple invented the smartphone period (no one here I don't think or on any tech site but out in the world), they think they invented capacitive screens, multi touch, installable apps, MP3 players, tablets, the mouse, the GUI, and that's all I can think of.
There would probably be a lot less resistance to giving credit where credit is due if people didn't try and give ALL credit where it isn't due.
Apple invented multi-touch smartphone. Your logic is very twisted. According to your logic a great artist did not create a great painting. He just used different colors of paints and put them on a canvas. And all software developers did not create anything. They just type the ASIC characters into files.
Originally Posted by Loptimist
Have you ever heard of a thing called Micro SD?
That thing on which you can't even put apps? YEP! Ha!
Originally Posted by realitychecks
Perfected? Refined? Evolved? Sure. But not invent.
Like what? Nonsense.
Originally Posted by pedromartins
Nobody invented anything. Everything is evolution from something. Even the wheel is an evolution from a square, for practical uses.
Ha! That's a great one.
Originally Posted by realitychecks
You are being excessively hostile for no reason. Just don't talk to me and I won't talk to you. If you see me post assume it was directed at everyone but you. I don't have time for people who get so worked up over such a harmless comment to the point of calling me all sorts of names. What the hell is wrong with you?
Then don't post on a public forum. What's wrong with YOU?!
LTE can be activated by a carrier update, like my one did last week as my network prepares to roll out LTE.
See, Mother Teresa, I told you (you should have seen HER in a foul mood).... ;-)
He gets his mothers mixed up, one minute Mother Teresa the next Mother F'er. Either a Gemini or bipolar, maybe both.
What? I know they created the whole. Some people credit them with making the parts. A capacitive screen is useless if improperly implemented. But even if you implemented it properly (perhaps even perfectly as I've yet to see a superior) doesn't mean you invented it. Stop looking for a fight where none exists.
You are a needlessly confrontational moderator.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Yes, there was an option to get LTE in the International model HENCE MY FUCKING POST!!!
WHAT FUCKING INTERNATIONAL MODEL HAD A FUCKING OPTION TO GET FUCKING LTE AS MENTIONED IN YOUR FUCKING POST THAT IS NOW FUCKING NO LONGER AVAILABLE WITH FUCKING LTE?
International variants:
The S3 GT-I9300 has no LTE. The S3 GT-I9305 has LTE.
The S4 GT-I9500 has no LTE. The S4 GT-I9505 has LTE.
The Galaxy SIII 4G.