Samsung breaks smartphone sales record in China for Q1, doubles Apple's iPhone

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  • Reply 21 of 111
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Seems like AI has become a Samsung PR site these days. What gives?

    Remember, Apple is in the midst of a share buy-back program, long-term investors benefit if Apple stock price is talked down during the duration of that buy-back.

    They can talk the company, as long as they don't talk down the products. All the more of a rally when the negative expectations are proven wrong, and Americans love a come-back more than an eternal winner.
  • Reply 22 of 111
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,005member
    Ok. Is there a way to filter out articles by category?
    Well...you could read the title and decide if you want to read it...
    :P
  • Reply 23 of 111
    festerfeetfesterfeet Posts: 108member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dlux View Post



    What's missing from this report is which carriers the companies are available on. The largest carrier in China uses a proprietary radio technology which Apple does not (yet) support, whereas Samsung might. There is talk that the next generation of Qualcomm chips will enable this, and that Apple will use the chip in the next iPhone revision.



    I'd like to see these numbers with a breakdown by carrier.





    Also bear in mind that China has over a BILLION (Dr. Evil) people, so tens of millions of sales is still small in comparison. As Tim Cook has said, it's a long game.





    (And to those complaining that this is a positive article for Samsung, well, that's reality. The information portion is to provide perspective of what kind of market Apple is competing in. Stop being so defensive.)


    The issue is not really a radio one, it is just about two of the biggest companies in the world who are both used to getting what they want not being able to compromise. China Mobile want a better financial deal and Apple won't set up supporting telecoms (China Telecom and China Unicom) for a fall. Apple could have produced a unit that would work on China Mobile ages ago and it would have been worth it given the numbers they would instantly sell. Apple does not want to offer a different financial package to CM or they will open the door to all the other telecom companies coming back and trying to renegotiate terms.


     


    A compromise deal would also open up competition issues that could land Apple in court again.


     


    Samsung really want to do well in this market and are doing all sorts of discount deals for their medium range of smartphones. Also it seems to be impossible to stand anywhere in the city without being in sight of a Samsung advertisment.


     


    This is also a good market for Samsung to do well with it's app store as there is no Google Play in China.


     


    There are a lot of big screen phones being bought here and both the note and the S3 were very popular although I can't see the appeal of a phone so large and will stick with my 5 very happily. This may be a case of usage. A lot of people watch videos on their phones here and play a lot of games which suits a big screen.


     


    Also there is little self-conciousness about holding up a device so large to there ear. 

  • Reply 24 of 111
    dadoria2dadoria2 Posts: 16member
    I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.
  • Reply 25 of 111
    Really without knowing the average selling price of the phones, there is no comparison to be made. If Apple's was$400 and Samsung's was $60 well so what?! Does the report give the ASPs?
  • Reply 26 of 111
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,824member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dadoria2 View Post



    I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.


     


    ...and every one of your 200+ family members who was there with a Galaxy is a product that Google is selling. Be a part of that and feel smug, criticise boring old Apple all you like even while professing your love but don't be ignorant of Google's goal, which isn't your liberation.

  • Reply 27 of 111
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,824member


    AI... more click bait. This is becoming such a pain. This site was once a bastion for those of us who cared about Apple but is now just money-grubbing.

  • Reply 28 of 111
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,481member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dadoria2 View Post



    I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.


    That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.

  • Reply 29 of 111
    normmnormm Posts: 653member


    Could you please stop reporting smart phone sales and just report phone sales?  Did Samsung sell more phones, or did it just replace a bunch of cheap "feature" phone sales with cheap "smart" phone sales? Is the rapid trend in the world towards smartphones helping or hurting Samsung's overall phone sales in China?

  • Reply 30 of 111
    dadoria2dadoria2 Posts: 16member
    Let's not be an a-hole now please. I've been an iPhone user since the original and have loved apple products since first using a mac back in 1996, I was only 14 then. I also hold some shares in AAPL, so I think I have the right to voice my own opinions about their products. I'm only sharing the changes I've noticed within a year. Don't be fooled. Every company uses our information as they wish. How about you re-read the T. O. S for every company on the planet. Google doesn't hide that they're an advertising company that relies on your information for their business. They do give the option to opt in or out. I chose to opt in by using their products and I can only imagine that even iPhone users use some Google services. I chose to switch to the gs3 because things integrate better with android than they do with iPhone. Apple's sandboxing implementation in ios5 broke Alot of seamless integration of some of my apps. My user experience has only gotten worse
    iqatedo wrote: »
    ...and every one of your 200+ family members who was there with a Galaxy is a product that Google is selling. Be a part of that and feel smug, criticise boring old Apple all you like even while professing your love but don't be ignorant of Google's goal, which isn't your liberation.
    , so I tried something new and liked it. It works better for my particular needs.
  • Reply 31 of 111
    dadoria2dadoria2 Posts: 16member
    I also have seen many people who don't know how to use iPhone, so your point is moot. No need for antiviral software if you download from the play store or from reliable sources. It's the equivalent of ha information a jailbroken iPhone. Just be careful. The only ly difference is if I want to Down load from another store, I just check a box that gives me the ability. I had to always jailbreak and play the cat and mouse game just to be able to do that. I'm not here to argue with anyone. I'm an apple fan that chose to use a different device. I don't understand the blind love for a company here. I can now understand why people tease and call some people fan boys. Geez! I can't even safely share an opinion, preference,
    genovelle wrote: »
    That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.
    or observation without getting attacked.
  • Reply 32 of 111
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    dadoria2 wrote: »
    I'm one of 37 grandkids, with 12 aunts and uncles from my mom's side alone. We have an annual reunion each year and this year there were only 3 iPhone out of the 200+ family members that were present. A majority of my family and some friends had mostly galaxy s3s. Last year there were no android phones there at all. I'm a huge apple fan, but since last June, I switched to the gs3 and never looked back. I'm still a huge apple fan but can't help the feeling that they're seriously lacking as of late. Honestly, I've even become frustrated with my ipad. With such a larger screen compared to my old iPhone, why can't I run 2 apps onscreen at once? I hope they make a good change soon so I could come back, I do miss the seamless sync between all my devices. DISCLAINER : THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION AND MINE ALONE. I don't claim to represent the majority.

    My core group of friends number to 10 and 8 of us have iPhones. Maybe instead of watching your 200+ family members phone choices, you'll actually talk to them.
  • Reply 33 of 111
    dadoria2dadoria2 Posts: 16member
    I do speak to my family and most of them had iPhones last year and have switched because they wanted a bigger screen. The ones who are techies like myself, said they got tired of chasing jailbreaks and wanted more freedom to change their experience with the phone. My core group of friends numbering 8, 7 of them have iPhones. 3of them
    jungmark wrote: »
    My core group of friends number to 10 and 8 of us have iPhones. Maybe instead of watching your 200+ family members phone choices, you'll actually talk to them.
    are waiting for their contracts to end in June before getting the HTC one.
  • Reply 34 of 111
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,824member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dadoria2 View Post



    Let's not be an a-hole now please...


     


    Perhaps I was, which wasn't my intention. Neither though your statements such as 'things integrate better with android than they do with iPhone'. Breathtaking rubbish. You want to post with impunity and then call those out who offer a counter experience. Have the last word then, no doubt you will.

  • Reply 35 of 111
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.



     


    Agreed. If I actually want inside information I just talk to fellow alumni. If I want interesting speculation I no longer visit here. If I want to watch pointless bitch sessions I definitely stop by.

  • Reply 36 of 111
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,824member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Sadly, AppleInsider is becoming less relevant to me as a source of Apple news.  Keep it up AI.  You're going to start bleeding long-term members if you continue transforming yourself to AndroidInsider/SamsungInsider.  You can try spinning it however you wish, but the reality is you're grabbing your ankles and letting the iHaters and trolls guide your direction.



     


    Self-edit - removed my unnecessary rant... but I agree!

  • Reply 37 of 111
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by genovelle View Post


    That's really odd.  I attend a major university and work for a hospital and I see far more iPhones that android devices. The people I know that have android phones annoy me because they are always asking me to help them figure it out and I honestly have no desire to deal with that.  I hope you made sure all of the 200 family members had some kind of virus protection running on their phones.



     


    Dadoria2 sounds just about right. I also attend the largest private university the US and work for a large city agency in NYC. There used to be a lot of iPhones and MacBook's until last year -- when I spotted fewer than half a dozen S2's in wilderness -- but so much changed since about the same time Dadoria2 noticed the Galaxy invasion. At work, it used to be all Blackberries; now our new CIO is a Apple fan and IT supports Apple iDevices only. 


     


    I also get asked a lot by complete strangers, mostly in their 50's and 60's, when I'm off-campus or in the parks. Perhaps it's my big phone, the Note 2, or my beguiling youth -- while I do my best to be helpful, it gets a bit annoying at times.


     


    I just wish there were more blatant security exploits like Comex's jailbreakme.com (remember from 2010?) in Android -- which expoloited iOS safari security hole to jailbreak your phone directly from web browser. no cables! no shady firmware uploader, all done in less than 2 mins?  Heimdall and Samsung's flash counters in Android world are very annoying..

  • Reply 38 of 111
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


     


    Agreed. If I actually want inside information I just talk to fellow alumni. If I want interesting speculation I no longer visit here. If I want to watch pointless bitch sessions I definitely stop by.



     


    speaking of insider information, is Apple still on with Global Foundry in update NY?

  • Reply 39 of 111
    mattbookairmattbookair Posts: 172member
    This means Samsung is plateauing, while Apple has room for growth in China. Good news for Apple and Samsung is doomed (well, this is literally how it would have been spun against Apple, were the numbers reversed :-).
  • Reply 40 of 111
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member


    Samsung sold twice as many phones from its product portfolio than Apple's iPhone? I'll be damn worried if I were Samsung...

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