Can Apple appeal? I argue they should be able to get this case thrown out. The judge already gave her opinion before the trial started.
Of course, to the Supreme court which I expect they will do as soon as this judge finds them guilty, as she already publicly pronounced Apple to be, prior to the trial.
Doj is acting like a lowlife.... Trying to spin facts and context. by presenting a draft that was never sent . Yet avoiding the real e-mail that was sent...
Doj is acting like a lowlife....
Trying to spin facts and context. by presenting a draft that was never sent . Yet avoiding the real e-mail that was sent...
this is the department of Justic of USA?
WOW !!!
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LEO and prosecutors are allowed to lie to you; permitted to deceive for the suspected greater good. The Justice Department - even their name is deceiving.
You mean the government is reading Mr. Jobs email.....isn't that illegal..isn't that a violation of his 2nd amendent rights.
You're suggesting this occurred prior to this email surfacing as a part of the investigation? It's highly unlikely that they obtained that by illegal means. Also what does it have to do with the second amendment? Somehow I'm guessing it's a reference to some topic from political outsider. I don't read that section, but it's obvious you didn't mean for that to be interpreted literally. I'm guessing it's a joke about recent second amendment press?
I think I'm starting to understand the Government program here:
10 US Government (DoJ) wastes taxpayer money going after Apple
20 US Government Spending Spree (which contributes to Financial Crisis)
30 US Government (Senate) pressures Apple to pay additional tax
40 Goto 10
You left out "Apple hires former cabinet secretary"
So this email wasn't even sent...and the sent version was nothing like it.So they want to burn Apple because of an opinion that Steve Jobs had, which he never even ended up communicating? I gave the DOJ too much credit in my previous post.
This 'email' was never sent so it never was an email
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email |?i?me?l|(also e-mail )noun [ mass noun ]messages distributed by electronic means from one computer user to one or more recipients via a network: reading email has become the first task of the morning | [ count noun ] : we received thousands of emails.• the system of sending messages by electronic means: a contract communicated by email.
As this was never send but purely a draft it doesn't even qualify under the dictionary definition.
If this is the best the DOJ can do they are going to be seriously embarrassed.
Sorry, was reported here at AI. Hiring for influence peddling is part of the game. Perhaps Al's star is fading.
Gotcha.
Considering the amount of criticism that they've copped recently regarding environmental issues by Google/Samsung shills...sorry...I mean genuine, caring members of the environment-loving public, then hiring an experienced individual from the EPA doesn't first strike me as attempting to exert influence over the government.
If Apple have finally decided to play the same way as many other companies then I wish them nothing but the best.
Fill a quarter of 'The Mothership' with lobbyists for all I care.
Who are these clowns? Jobs was replying to Cue's email, which states quite clearly: "The other point I want to get is lowering the price while the book is on the NYT Bestseller List. This will be hard to get because they will be losing an additional $1.40, but we should try."
In other words, for those with poor English comprehension skills, Eddy was trying to get the publishers to lower their price. Which is the smoking gun that defeats the DOJ's antitrust case.
I will be deploying additional encryption methods very soon in order to protect myself from unwanted intrusion by hostile forces.
I commend you for this and would encourage everyone to do the same, but keep in mind that the who's who of our communications are highly informative by themselves and even encrypted e-mail still includes the addresses of the sender and recipient(s) in clear text within the message header. Similarly, the call logs obtained by the NSA reveal the networks of people we all communicate with and yield important information about our individual activities without the need to intercept the actual conversations.
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Originally Posted by starbird73
Can Apple appeal? I argue they should be able to get this case thrown out. The judge already gave her opinion before the trial started.
Of course, to the Supreme court which I expect they will do as soon as this judge finds them guilty, as she already publicly pronounced Apple to be, prior to the trial.
Mistrial and a gross miscarriage of justice.
Very discouraging that the judge sustained the objection.
Trying to spin facts and context. by presenting a draft that was never sent . Yet avoiding the real e-mail that was sent...
this is the department of Justic of USA?
WOW !!!
LEO and prosecutors are allowed to lie to you; permitted to deceive for the suspected greater good. The Justice Department - even their name is deceiving.
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Originally Posted by Fast Fred
You mean the government is reading Mr. Jobs email.....isn't that illegal..isn't that a violation of his 2nd amendent rights.
You're suggesting this occurred prior to this email surfacing as a part of the investigation? It's highly unlikely that they obtained that by illegal means. Also what does it have to do with the second amendment? Somehow I'm guessing it's a reference to some topic from political outsider. I don't read that section, but it's obvious you didn't mean for that to be interpreted literally. I'm guessing it's a joke about recent second amendment press?
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Quite thin. And ridiculous.
What a waste of taxpayer resources.
I would agree with that.
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Originally Posted by hill60
"Thought crimes" are here, it looks like Orwell was out by three decades.
It's time to send in Tom Cruise from the PreCrime Police Force...
I think I'm starting to understand the Government program here:
10 US Government (DoJ) wastes taxpayer money going after Apple
20 US Government Spending Spree (which contributes to Financial Crisis)
30 US Government (Senate) pressures Apple to pay additional tax
40 Goto 10
You left out "Apple hires former cabinet secretary"
So this email wasn't even sent...and the sent version was nothing like it.So they want to burn Apple because of an opinion that Steve Jobs had, which he never even ended up communicating? I gave the DOJ too much credit in my previous post.
Unbelievable.
I do have a tendency to leave out points of data that I am not aware of.
Are you able to provide more information on this, and what you are inferring?
How can a gun smoke when it hasn't been fired?
This 'email' was never sent so it never was an email
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email |?i?me?l|(also e-mail )noun [ mass noun ]messages distributed by electronic means from one computer user to one or more recipients via a network: reading email has become the first task of the morning | [ count noun ] : we received thousands of emails.• the system of sending messages by electronic means: a contract communicated by email.
As this was never send but purely a draft it doesn't even qualify under the dictionary definition.
If this is the best the DOJ can do they are going to be seriously embarrassed.
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Originally Posted by ChristophB
You left out "Apple hires former cabinet secretary"
I do have a tendency to leave out points of data that I am not aware of.
Are you able to provide more information on this, and what you are inferring?
He is referring to Apple's recent hiring of Lisa Jackson, former head of Obama's EPA.
Sorry, was reported here at AI. Hiring for influence peddling is part of the game. Perhaps Al's [Gore] star is fading.
Edit: Realized Al could look like AI.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
He is referring to Apple's recent hiring of Lisa Jackson, former head of Obama's EPA.
AKA - "Richard Windsor", who was even awarded a certificate, go figure.
Gotcha.
Considering the amount of criticism that they've copped recently regarding environmental issues by Google/Samsung shills...sorry...I mean genuine, caring members of the environment-loving public, then hiring an experienced individual from the EPA doesn't first strike me as attempting to exert influence over the government.
If Apple have finally decided to play the same way as many other companies then I wish them nothing but the best.
Fill a quarter of 'The Mothership' with lobbyists for all I care.
Yep. Play the game until the game changes. Perhaps Holder is bucking for a chief counsel position. Oh the irony.
Edit: GTR updated his thoughts.
Personally my drafts are prior to the sent, not after.... just saying...
and why is there a received date, when something wasn't "sent"?
Who are these clowns? Jobs was replying to Cue's email, which states quite clearly: "The other point I want to get is lowering the price while the book is on the NYT Bestseller List. This will be hard to get because they will be losing an additional $1.40, but we should try."
In other words, for those with poor English comprehension skills, Eddy was trying to get the publishers to lower their price. Which is the smoking gun that defeats the DOJ's antitrust case.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
I will be deploying additional encryption methods very soon in order to protect myself from unwanted intrusion by hostile forces.
I commend you for this and would encourage everyone to do the same, but keep in mind that the who's who of our communications are highly informative by themselves and even encrypted e-mail still includes the addresses of the sender and recipient(s) in clear text within the message header. Similarly, the call logs obtained by the NSA reveal the networks of people we all communicate with and yield important information about our individual activities without the need to intercept the actual conversations.