Inside iOS 7: Calendar app comes with sterilized UI, few feature changes

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  • Reply 61 of 102
    freediverxfreediverx Posts: 1,423member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poksi View Post


     


    I don't need to google to know about roots of Ive's design style, however, you are showing the boxes and Jony makes them the most beautiful. Design of the software should not necessary "match" the box that is confined within and frankly, I believe it is misconception. While the box interacts with surrounding in confined space, software interacts with people. Users should not be required first to finish jump course to understand basic of modern design to like it. The design is not something for people to learn, it is pure sense of esthetic and usability. While I find many things that comply with the esthetic part (except for calendar, there is very little esthetic there. There is very little of anything...) I also find many elements of design lacking of previous usability. I also don't find anything minimalistic in parallax scrolling and snow and storm animation in Weather app.


     


    To cut the long story short: I like what Jony does to boxes, i don't like very much what he does to what is inside. For now. I hope it changes.



     


    Don't just look at the boxes. Look at the interfaces: the buttons, dials and switches. Look at the labels for the controls. For each device, consider how many controls and labels were left out (that might arguably have provided additional utility) in order to provide the cleanest interface to the primary functions. That's what they're doing in iOS 7.


     


    Just remember...


     


    1) You don't have to like the aesthetics - that's a matter of taste.


    2) Everything can't be perfect at first - this is version 1.0 of a new GUI, and it just entered Beta.


    3) Everything will get better - look back at the UI iterations since the first version of OSX.

  • Reply 62 of 102
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

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    Originally Posted by enature View Post


    Are you starting to like Cook's products more than Steve's too? 


     


    Just a classic underestimation of Steve Jobs. It was Jobs who singlehandedly guided Apple toward one and only one purpose - to make Apple devices easiest to use. Tim Cook? A spreadsheet guru utterly clueless about products. Cook has no guts to make radical changes  - even when such changes will make Apple products easier to use.


     


    When the last Fall I warned about upcoming Apple demise, largely based on the reasons outlined above, local Apple zealots - like Tallest Skil - either dismissed them or outright blocked my posts. You can continue to live in the la-la-Cook-is-the-best land, but time will show that Cook's inability to understand what makes consumers tick will do more and more damage to Apple. 



     


    What has liking to do with underestimation? Steve Jobs has proven himself to be god of personal computing world. Nothing less. But it doesn't mean I should like him over Cook, does it?


     


    I had a lot of negative sentiments about Cook in the past, but I realize now, how much have some of the things improve during his time. Availability of the products and clearer messages to market, for example. Steve was god of PC, but not god of everything. Tim could do some things better, but he is very far from screwing everything as you almost claim.

  • Reply 63 of 102
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freediverx View Post


     


    Don't just look at the boxes. Look at the interfaces: the buttons, dials and switches. Look at the labels for the controls. For each device, consider how many controls and labels were left out (that might arguably have provided additional utility) in order to provide the cleanest interface to the primary functions. That's what they're doing in iOS 7.


     


    Just remember...


     


    1) You don't have to like the aesthetics - that's a matter of taste.


    2) Everything can't be perfect at first - this is version 1.0 of a new GUI, and it just entered Beta.


    3) Everything will get better - look back at the UI iterations since the first version of OSX.



     


    I have no doubt about improvements to come. I'm just expressing my view on current design steps and missteps (by my humble opinion).

  • Reply 64 of 102
    apple's best inside man, Jim Dalrymple already said Apple stopped making changes and adding features in order to have a usable build at WWDC. The intentionally leaked article to TheNextWeb stated that iOS 7 is in "mid stride" in terms of development. Relax. If you're just a consumer, it's not even your business yet whether you decide to upgrade or not. Relax.
  • Reply 65 of 102
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member

    Double troll post!



    Wow, the mods take one day off and the trolls completely take over every thread. I'm not sure who's more pathetic, the trolls or the companies paying them to troll.* And the one genuine comment (the latter) actually sounds like a troll post!

    FWIW I like the slick, minimalist look of iOS 7 and the calendar app. That said, I'm not really a power user so maybe there're some things I'm missing.

    [SIZE=10px]*Samsung has been caught paying trolls, but I'm sure they're not the only ones doing it.[/SIZE]

    The app itself looks very nice but a warmer shade of white would've been great.
  • Reply 66 of 102
    rogernrogern Posts: 2member


    Who cares about this calendar app...if Apple wants to keep all of the developers who created the majority of the 900,000 IOS apps they brag about...why would they want to make a full-featured "free" operating system app?  There are so many cheap personal information managers apps to choose from that anyone serious about managing their calendar or to-do list wouldn't even consider using the "free" OS app!  The selection and low cost of the alternatives is what it is all about.  Looking back to the PC days, when it costs $70-$500 to buy "full-featured" alternatives to free OS apps, as users, we are in heaven now!

     

  • Reply 67 of 102


    Would someone be kind enough to confirm if you can set the calendar app to start the week on a Monday if you have North American (Canada or US) location settings.


     


    Greatly appreciated.


     


    One work around is to set the location (International) to the UK but then all the phone numbers in Contacts are formatted the European way (xx-xxxx-xxxx), not the North American way (xxx-xxx-xxxx).


     


    Thanks.

  • Reply 68 of 102
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    I love to have a function we have on OSX. The "Plus" button where you can just type naturally. I use it all the time on ML and miss it dearly on my iPad.
  • Reply 69 of 102


    All I know is these white UI's will drain the battery faster and force you to upgrade your phone every year instead of every two years.... : /

  • Reply 70 of 102
    websnapwebsnap Posts: 224member
    Love it. clean, beautiful. They can add more features in upcoming releases but I'm really feeling this look. I think iOS needed new functions AND a new look but it couldn't do both without completely confusing current customers. Letting customers get used to UX changes first then adding features later is kind of what apple does. They waited a couple of versions to add copy and paste, added tones of features to FCP X after redesigning and stripping it at initial release. Luckily, there are other apps that if power users aren't pleased with what apple has at present, quality options exist. Apples apps will always be on the phone so as they get better, we can try them out again with little to no hassle.
  • Reply 71 of 102
    I liked nearly everything about it except that it doesn't display a symbol or dot that shows that you have an event for a particular day in month view. That's ludicrous! And it would be more intuitive to click on a day to add event. I have to click the sign at the top. Not user-friendly.
  • Reply 72 of 102

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    Double troll post!


     


     


     


    Wow, the mods take one day off and the trolls completely take over every thread. I'm not sure who's more pathetic, the trolls or the companies paying them to troll.* And the one genuine comment (the latter) actually sounds like a troll post!


     


    FWIW I like the slick, minimalist look of iOS 7 and the calendar app. That said, I'm not really a power user so maybe there're some things I'm missing.


     


    *Samsung has been caught paying trolls, but I'm sure they're not the only ones doing it.



     


    One day, when you have more items on your calendar other than "Wake up at noon. Get mom to make sandwich. Play xbox", you'll understand.

  • Reply 73 of 102
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Does anyone know if they added week numbers to the new Calendar? We Europeans use it, and were frustratingly waiting for it to be implemented in OSX, which took like forever, just gotten it with 10.8. Which seems odd, as they sell more iOS devices abroad than Macs.

    Yes yes, I left feedback. Every. Single. Year. I just haven't seen it in the keynote, or online afterwards.
  • Reply 74 of 102
    One day, when you have more items on your calendar other than "Wake up at noon. Get mom to make sandwich. Play xbox", you'll understand.

    Haha, that's actually pretty funny. But I can assure you, after two bachelor degrees, an advanced post graduate degree, and 3 years of post graduate training, my schedule is far from empty ;)
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    The app itself looks very nice but a warmer shade of white would've been great.

    Interesting point, but that would probably interfere with the overall coherence of iOS. While the lighter color is more lively (I think I'll like it this way), it might be nice to have a dark mode and a medium (warmer) mode as well (a la android, as mentioned in a recent AI article), perhaps in iOS 8, once people digest these new changes.
  • Reply 75 of 102
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    [SIZE=20px]*Samsung has been caught paying trolls, but I'm sure they're not the only ones doing it.[/SIZE]

    This is an interesting quote.

    Obviously, if you are 'sure' about this, then you have some information about Apple that most of us are not aware of.

    Care to share?
  • Reply 76 of 102
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    gtr wrote: »
    This is an interesting quote.

    Obviously, if you are 'sure' about this, then you have some information about Apple that most of us are not aware of.

    Care to share?


    I don't have any evidence, just an educated guess.

    For anyone who may be interested, here's an article about Samsung specifically.

    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/20/apple-samsung-dirty-tricks/?utm_source=loopinsight.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed


    edit: Unnecessary sarcastic comment removed.
  • Reply 77 of 102
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    That entire article is about Samsung paying trolls.

    Where does it mention anybody else?

    Your quote gives the impression that Apple is also paying trolls, etc...
  • Reply 78 of 102
    gtr wrote: »
    That entire article is about Samsung paying trolls.

    Where does it mention anybody else?

    Your quote gives the impression that Apple is also paying trolls, etc...

    That wasn't the impression I was trying to make. Maybe it's my pro apple bias, but I don't see Apple ever paying people to trash competitors on websites. I was more referring to other Apple competitors paying trolls, given the vast amount of inane and vapid criticism of apple on an Apple fan site such as this one.

    Cheers
  • Reply 79 of 102
    Wow. All that red sure is hostile. Sterile and hostile, what great design aesthetic! There's no way I can look at something like this day in and day out. Just. No. Way.
  • Reply 80 of 102
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    I agree.

    There's been no evidence, that I am aware of, of Apple knowingly engaging in the kind of rubbish that Samsung has been caught practicing.
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