Apple's fingerprint sensor encapsulation tech could be headed for future iPhone

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  • Reply 21 of 41
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,673member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by droslovinia View Post



    While this sounds exciting, and I'm planning to buy the next iPhone, I can't help but wonder whether the new "follow your eyes" features in the new Samsung phone aren't a precursor to retina-scanning technology that may trump this fingerprinting idea.


     


    That feature has proven to be nothing more than a gimmick. It doesn't work very well, because it's not very practical on a mobile device; a device that's constantly moving around and people are constantly looking away for other reasons.


     


     


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geekdad View Post


    I wonder if they can use the fingerprint scanner as part of a payment authentication?


    They bought a whole company just for this technology....so we know they are going to use fingerprint scanning somehow....



     


    I'm pretty sure, this is exactly why they bought the company.


     


    When you hold your iPhone up to an NFC terminal, the iPhone will ask you to authenticate by using your finger. Once cleared, it will transmit the credit card info you have saved in your iTunes account.

  • Reply 22 of 41
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,673member

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    Originally Posted by Joe Mecca View Post



    Question: If married and you don't want your spouse to look at your iPhone, what happens when one spouse is sleeping and the other is awake and the spouse takes the finger of the sleeping person and places is it on the iPhone? Will it unlock? Hope there is a secondary backup when authorized.


     


    If this is an issue for you, you have too many other problems with your marriage to worry about how your phone is unlocked.

  • Reply 23 of 41
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
    While cool and interesting, it's only useful TO ME if I can use it as a digital wallet. Otherwise, I can use my pin just fine.

    Wonder if this will eventually extend to iPod touch as well. Assuming it isn't vapor ware.
  • Reply 24 of 41
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTR View Post

     

    Use your penis as the authentication digit instead.

     

    lol....that leads to support issues about 9 months later.....
  • Reply 25 of 41
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    Apple never disappoints: they ALWAYS draw the freakiest fingers.
  • Reply 26 of 41
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    <div align="center"><img src="http://photos.appleinsidercdn.com/13.06.20-Fingerprint-2.jpg" alt="Fingerprint" width="660" height="245" border="0"><br><span class="minor2 small gray">Cutaway of assembly with finger.</span></div>

    I was confused; I thought this was a wooden bowl at first.
  • Reply 27 of 41
    I think it's pretty clear that we will see fingerprint scanning in a future iPhone. Entering a numerical code is a pain and not super secure. Android has tried swiping patterns, MS has tried drawing on photos. As our phones do so much now and hold so much information, security is becoming more and more important. I expect a fingerprint scanner under the home button to be used to unlock your phone (swipe the screen then press the home button).
  • Reply 28 of 41
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    markbriton wrote: »
    I expect a fingerprint scanner under the home button to be used to unlock your phone (swipe the screen then press the home button).

    I don't think,you need to swipe anymore. Just put your thumb on the home button it will turn on your screen and check your fingerprint at the same time. If you're good it'll open the phone. Maybe that's why in iOS 7 you have Slide to Unlock graphic on the home screen just barely.
  • Reply 29 of 41
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member


    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    In addition to the above embodiments, the filing notes that the bezels can be provided with visual indicators and possibly a light source.


     


    Maybe Apple could put the sensor off-screen in the iPhone / iPad bezel, next to the home button.


    When it's necessary to scan your thumb / finger print, an outline could light up around the sensor.


    I seem to recall an Apple patent from several years ago about sensors outside the touchscreen.

  • Reply 30 of 41
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member


    Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post





    I don't think,you need to swipe anymore. Just put your thumb on the home button it will turn on your screen and check your fingerprint at the same time. If you're good it'll open the phone. Maybe that's why in iOS 7 you have Slide to Unlock graphic on the home screen just barely.


     


    That's what I'm hoping.  Putting the sensor directly in the touchscreen or behind the home button


    would be better than putting it in the bezel (as I mentioned earlier.)  And yes, that could explain why the


    up-arrow on the lock screen graphic is right at the bottom edge of the display.

  • Reply 31 of 41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe Mecca View Post



    Question: If married and you don't want your spouse to look at your iPhone, what happens when one spouse is sleeping and the other is awake and the spouse takes the finger of the sleeping person and places is it on the iPhone? Will it unlock? Hope there is a secondary backup when authorized.


    The problem may lye elsewhwere than the technology in this situation. 

  • Reply 32 of 41
    gmhutgmhut Posts: 242member
    Figure 6 makes it look like the iPhone will be able to cook Jiffy Pop Popcorn.
  • Reply 33 of 41
    am8449am8449 Posts: 392member
    The announcement of the iCloud Keychains feature in iOS 7 makes me think this fingerprint sensor tech will not be ready anytime soon. Fingerprint authentication would obviate the need for the Keychains feature.
  • Reply 34 of 41
    timmydaxtimmydax Posts: 284member
    Fingerprint auth. allows Apple to have true Triple Factor Auhentication:

    1) Something you know: Passcode or Apple ID Password

    2) Something you have: iPhone...

    3) Something you are: Thumbprint scan

    This combination would be a very strong combo with the banks, Paypal, Visa/MC etc. Get these fus on board, and you've got yourself a payment platform. Getting EPOS systems compliant, now that's a giant hurdle. If the above guys are suitably impressed, they can really help roll out some hardware if necessary, or with pci compliance software-side.

    I'm flogging a dead horse, but Apple really need to sort out multiple accounts on iOS devices. That is, multiple admin and basic users of the same Apple ID/iTunes/iCloud account. They can have their own contacts, duplicates with different names (Dad, nicknames etc.) but have the same music, shared calendars (as Steve tried to show with his and his wife's at iCloud intro... never really materialised), and linked to their Game Center IDs (which one Apple ID can currently have many of, with different friends). Basic users would be great for your kids and allow admin auth. for restrictions.
  • Reply 35 of 41
    So typing on your computer or using your iDevice is now going to capture your fingerprints to please their psychopathic friends at the NSA.
  • Reply 36 of 41
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    geekdad wrote: »
    lol....that leads to support issues about 9 months later.....

    Only if you hold it wrong.
  • Reply 37 of 41
    lostkiwilostkiwi Posts: 639member
    ireland wrote: »
    The 4S got Siri.
    That is a good point. In my defence, I forgot about Siri as I almost never use it - my strange foreign NZ accent is almost indecipherable to Siri, making it useless to me.
  • Reply 38 of 41
    lostkiwilostkiwi Posts: 639member
    gtr wrote: »
    Use your penis as the authentication digit instead.
    Might make your meetings at work more interesting when you need to check something on your phone.
    Of course it depends what you do for work - but that is another conversation entirely.
  • Reply 39 of 41
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lostkiwi View Post



    Might make your meetings at work more interesting when you need to check something on your phone.

    Of course it depends what you do for work - but that is another conversation entirely.


     


    I can see the blurb when it's released:


     


    The New iPhone - Not Work Approved

  • Reply 40 of 41
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