I'm sorry there guy, that is a delusional piece of journalism!
You need to look at the real world and how you Iconic company you so odvously worship has fallen Way behind its competitors !! Take there half ass attempt at a larger screen !! Turn your I phone 5 sideways use it's own camera and you have a picture that doesn't even fit the screen! HUGE FAIL!!
A desperate attempt to release a candy colored interface that's using interface adaptations from everyone, filters , parallax a STILL Unfinished Maps , Siri that's so slow in its response makes it useless..
Oh and the public just can't wait for the brand new Plastic iPhone 5S. ( guess going green isn't that important anymore ) all with that same size Usless longer screen! Face the facts .. This is not your Steve Jobs Apple anymore ! This is a company that's clearly lost its way Again , Even ask The Waz.
The next time you decide to do a pice on Apple try to make it at lease sound like you don't kneel down before a framed picture of an Apple on a pedestal and chant , they'll see , they'll see !
Sorry but you just sounded bitter through that entire article it was tough not to feel sorry for you.
If DED "sounded bitter" what do you think you sound like?
Woz not "Waz." and iPhone, not "I Phone". But of course how would you know that...? Oh yes, because you're an "Apple fan" and you "care" so much about Apple. Hint: real Apple fans can detect feigned concern over Apple's competitiveness.
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Originally Posted by enature
Daniel Eran Dilger (DED) - a known cheerleader of Cook's misguided leadership - goes overboard in verbosity trying to hide the obvious - Cook's policies led to one of the largest shareholder losses in the history and.... And Cook is not done yet. Soon AAPL price will fall under $400 and will have $3XX prices tag.
DED uses every tactic under the sun - from the decade old failings of Wintel to the unquestionably gloried and revolutionary accomplishments of Apple during Job's era - to cover up Cook's recent losses and portray iOS as the best thing in mobile platforms.... Gimme a break!
Cook - an undisputed chain-supply guru and a spreadsheet genius - coasted on Job's vision for a year, which got AAPL above $700. Having no guts to make radical changes - like increasing iPhone screen size above 4" or fixing unreliable iCloud - Cook just continues to coast while AAPL tumbles to $600 to $500 to $400 to... over $250 billion lost and counting.... I guess the next DED piece will be even more prolix and defensive.
Is the Angry Pitchfork Brigade still calling for Cook's head? Please.
Your argument against Cook boils down to a highly selective grab bag of bad headlines and biased opinions:
1. Stock plummets! -- theory: it's Cook's fault, not Wall Street's bubble pricing of APPL
2. iOS is not the best thing in mobile platforms -- based on objective evidence or subjective opinion?
3. iPhone screen size -- too small? Theory: a bigger screen will fix AAPL prices.
4. iCloud "unreliable" -- based on objective metrics or subjective opinion?
DED doesn't have to be "defensive". Just positive.
The last thing they want to do is have their own developer conferences and APIs. It's still cheaper for them to let Google do most of the OS and API work and the manufacturers only provide a custom shell or launcher or skin
Cheaper yes, but also much less profitable. I don't know about you but I don't want Apple and Samsung to be Coke and Pepsi especially since I prefer RC Cola which I can no longer find.
Cheaper yes, but also much less profitable. I don't know about you but I don't want Apple and Samsung to be Coke and Pepsi especially since I prefer RC Cola which I can no longer find.
I don't understand. Why "also much less profitable"? How does it affect their profit?
It's almost as if Microsoft built it with this enterprise mindset; it reminds me a bit like a corporate dashboard for some operations manager. Also, how much time do people spend staring at their home screen/desktop. iOS has always been a springboard for apps. I think Apple has more work to do in terms of app organization and app curation but I don't see iOS changing its focus away from being a springboard to great apps.
You may be right about MS. The designs of Android and WP8 make more sense if you think of the OS as primarily an information hub and secondly a vehicle for launching apps. Widgets and live-tiles are not such absurd ideas if your first priority is to deliver relevant data to the user as efficiently as possible. For example, presenting the weather or the next appointment on the home screen saves the user from having to dig into dedicated apps for the information. Google seems to subscribe to this "information first" philosophy as evidenced by its effort on products like Google Now, and by its design of android, which reserves the homescreen mainly for information (in the form of widgets) while storing most apps in the app drawer.
I strenuously object to the description of the WinTel partnership as a "ball of greasy hair saturated in Drano". Hair at one time probably made someone feel better and Drano serves a useful purpose. I do not think WinTel ever did either.
iOS is pretty much dead with the release of the 7th version. They need to put Scott Forstall back in charge. The sooner they realize that , the better.
Indeed. Doesn't prove the headline, doesn't even stick to one gist. In one paragraph it's a history of desktop computers, another it's a review of iOS 7, next name calling.
Saddest part is that this is typical DED writing. They all generally suck in terms of writing skill and yet no one on the staff has bothered to point this out to him
Apple isn't making a huge UI change because what they introduced in 2007 still works. No one has demonstrated that the grid of icons no longer works or something else is much better.
I agree that a static grid still works, but that's not saying much. It also worked for Windows Mobile when you clicked its Programs button. It also worked for the Palm Pilot. Heck, it worked for the original Mac.
I mildly disagree that no one has shown anything better, as I do think that a static grid of app icons is misusing the space. Active icons/widgets can be very handy as little windows into an app's info / status.
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With Windows 8 and its live tiles how much can you really glean staring at the screen?
Here, I'm in total agreement with you that the colors and arrangement (or lack of) of the Windows tiles are a mess to view. I think they had a good idea, but screwed up the artistic implementation.
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Btw, I kept meaning to find time to reply to a post you made a week or two ago. In it, you proposed something along the lines that perhaps Apple was trying to mature iOS slightly away from the even-a-baby-can-do-it style. (Please correct me if I got that wrong.)
I think that's very insightful, and yes, that would be a major move for Apple, relatively speaking. I think it has to be done... that the training wheels eventually have to come off... as people in general get more savvy about using smartphones.
I even think there's a good place for a switch between child - medium - expert modes. Most especially I think that tablets are way overdue for having multiple user profiles.
- Cook's policies led to one of the largest shareholder losses in the history and....
Hardly. If you go back and look at the actual facts you'll see that the drop was almost entirely to do with the so called expert bloggers and analysts putting out article after article about issues, delays, sales failures (based on not reaching the same analysts extremely overblown estimates)
For Steve Jobs, "the best" had a simple meaning - the best product is the one that takes the least effort to use. The Principle of Least Effort was inseparable from Steve Jobs.
Cook, on the other hand, complicates the definition of "the best" by adding considerations that he himself is good at - production logistics, cost/profit analysis, supply chain considerations.
Hunh? There are a lot of published sources out there from which one can reasonably deduce what Steve Jobs means by "the best" product. But how were you ever able to deduce what Tim Cook's thinking is on the matter? Did you ask him and that's what he told you? Were you able to glean some hidden meaning from the keynote presentations? Otherwise, this is all just a bunch of speculative B.S. about what motivates T.C.
Thanks. Yes, I think Steve put Ive in charge of the physical and Scott in charge of the virtual for a reason.
Yes but how much of that was due to Forstall's skill as a designer and programmer versus loyalty to another NeXT employee and the fact that Forstall had similar notions about skeuomorphic design etc
And remember that Steve allegedly told Tim not to ever ask What Would Steve Do? If this is true then it was a blessing to go in new directions etc. Including a less 'realistic' UI and a more collaborative work flow. Something that wouldn't have worked so great given the rumors that Forstall was a grade A jerk who refused to take feedback from anyone but Steve. So that would have added to reasons why Forstall and Apple weren't going to continue together.
Good comparison with the auto industry (surprisingly an industry that compares well with the computer industry on a number of levels). Also a reason why you'll see Samsung start making its own "engine" soon.
That's why deep in my heart, I am praying that Apple acquires Tesla. I sincerely believe that the Apple way could be applied at great benefit to industries other than tech. Jobs himself stated that if he had the time and opportunity, he would have wanted to get into the auto business and fix it. He also said that the auto companies used to do 'integrated' really well.
I also like to imagine what the airline industry would be like if Apple took over one of the carriers.
IMO, Scott simply had to go. Ios6 just plain stank (I feel it was the weakest release in ios history)
Given that the only UI change was a totally unneeded moving shadow trick and it released with a huge wifi bug that screwed a significant percent of folks for a couple of updates, I am inclined to agree
Well said. Steve Jobs was a genius at understanding that a well designed quality built product is functional, intuitive and thus easy to use. Thus Apple products generate a great deal of customer satisfaction and loyalty.
And for some reason, Microsoft still to this day believes they can just sit back and "MAINLY" only offer Windows OS, Office whatever, and backend Server OSes, over and over, and just keep raking cash in over and over, for recycled never redone code.
Sad part is, there will seem always be people who shell out that $100 a year for Windows, and now $100 a year for Office. Damn, sickening.
Think about this they have 20,000,000+ people giving them $4,000,000,000 or more a year? For recycled code with barely any improvements and this is just in America (US). Free money, for LIFE, for Microsoft. They don't even have to DO ANYTHING. Just call it Windows 9, Office 2015, 4 billion in the US that year... GEES. for nothin. It's insane and then what do they do with that money? Just pay there 5,000+ employees to sit around and do nothing.
Here in Portugal (and Spain) Android is much more mainstream than iPhones, for a variety of reasons. One of them is that the nearest Apple Store is in another country (Spain), and the second is that Samsung and their ads are everywhere.
One of those things that every android user knows (and must know, really) is how to switch Wifi, 3g, bluetooth, etc. on and off. It's actually easy, and they have to do it... you will realize why, soon enough.
A few days ago, a few americans arrived here to study during the semester. iPhones everywhere! Since I own a mac and am a good-looking son of a b*cth, the girls (and the boys lol) approached me and asked if I knew how to set the internet on their iPhones. On iPhones, the process is very easy because you don't even need to configure the network, it's only username and password.
First question (by me):
-Ok, I know how to do it. Can you please go to settings and Wifi? They answered...
-"How do you do that?!".
After a brief conversation, they (all of them!) said that they never got that deep into the settings app (lol). The bluetooth was always on. The Wifi was always on. GPS was on. 3G was on. One of them was really hot so I was turned on too. Everything was on.
For an Android user, it is unthinkable to have the phone in those same conditions and have more than 2h battery life, even on "high end" devices. Things like that are only a privilege to iPhone users, so when they complain that their phones only hold a charge during 8h, I laugh.
It's like people saying that the S4 and the note have much bigger batteries, so they have a much better battery life... Meanwhile the iPhone and iPad wins every test when both screens are on, and on extensive tasks there is no contest.
Apple is doing a great job with their mobile processors and batteries. The a6 was a marvel, the things that they manage to do with small batteries are great. Can't wait for the end of the year...
Very well described. However, I think here is an advantage that Apple should exploit. Instead of making the 5S as thin as 5, Apple should increase its battery life to 12 hours. Then Apple will silence a lot of the bashings from the media I truly believe.
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Wasn't Apple also a major part of that PowerPC initiative?
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Originally Posted by kelsocolt
I'm sorry there guy, that is a delusional piece of journalism!
You need to look at the real world and how you Iconic company you so odvously worship has fallen Way behind its competitors !! Take there half ass attempt at a larger screen !! Turn your I phone 5 sideways use it's own camera and you have a picture that doesn't even fit the screen! HUGE FAIL!!
A desperate attempt to release a candy colored interface that's using interface adaptations from everyone, filters , parallax a STILL Unfinished Maps , Siri that's so slow in its response makes it useless..
Oh and the public just can't wait for the brand new Plastic iPhone 5S. ( guess going green isn't that important anymore ) all with that same size Usless longer screen! Face the facts .. This is not your Steve Jobs Apple anymore ! This is a company that's clearly lost its way Again , Even ask The Waz.
The next time you decide to do a pice on Apple try to make it at lease sound like you don't kneel down before a framed picture of an Apple on a pedestal and chant , they'll see , they'll see !
Sorry but you just sounded bitter through that entire article it was tough not to feel sorry for you.
If DED "sounded bitter" what do you think you sound like?
Woz not "Waz." and iPhone, not "I Phone". But of course how would you know that...? Oh yes, because you're an "Apple fan" and you "care" so much about Apple. Hint: real Apple fans can detect feigned concern over Apple's competitiveness.
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Originally Posted by enature
Daniel Eran Dilger (DED) - a known cheerleader of Cook's misguided leadership - goes overboard in verbosity trying to hide the obvious - Cook's policies led to one of the largest shareholder losses in the history and.... And Cook is not done yet. Soon AAPL price will fall under $400 and will have $3XX prices tag.
DED uses every tactic under the sun - from the decade old failings of Wintel to the unquestionably gloried and revolutionary accomplishments of Apple during Job's era - to cover up Cook's recent losses and portray iOS as the best thing in mobile platforms.... Gimme a break!
Cook - an undisputed chain-supply guru and a spreadsheet genius - coasted on Job's vision for a year, which got AAPL above $700. Having no guts to make radical changes - like increasing iPhone screen size above 4" or fixing unreliable iCloud - Cook just continues to coast while AAPL tumbles to $600 to $500 to $400 to... over $250 billion lost and counting.... I guess the next DED piece will be even more prolix and defensive.
Is the Angry Pitchfork Brigade still calling for Cook's head? Please.
Your argument against Cook boils down to a highly selective grab bag of bad headlines and biased opinions:
1. Stock plummets! -- theory: it's Cook's fault, not Wall Street's bubble pricing of APPL
2. iOS is not the best thing in mobile platforms -- based on objective evidence or subjective opinion?
3. iPhone screen size -- too small? Theory: a bigger screen will fix AAPL prices.
4. iCloud "unreliable" -- based on objective metrics or subjective opinion?
DED doesn't have to be "defensive". Just positive.
Cheaper yes, but also much less profitable. I don't know about you but I don't want Apple and Samsung to be Coke and Pepsi especially since I prefer RC Cola which I can no longer find.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Cheaper yes, but also much less profitable. I don't know about you but I don't want Apple and Samsung to be Coke and Pepsi especially since I prefer RC Cola which I can no longer find.
I don't understand. Why "also much less profitable"? How does it affect their profit?
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
It's almost as if Microsoft built it with this enterprise mindset; it reminds me a bit like a corporate dashboard for some operations manager. Also, how much time do people spend staring at their home screen/desktop. iOS has always been a springboard for apps. I think Apple has more work to do in terms of app organization and app curation but I don't see iOS changing its focus away from being a springboard to great apps.
You may be right about MS. The designs of Android and WP8 make more sense if you think of the OS as primarily an information hub and secondly a vehicle for launching apps. Widgets and live-tiles are not such absurd ideas if your first priority is to deliver relevant data to the user as efficiently as possible. For example, presenting the weather or the next appointment on the home screen saves the user from having to dig into dedicated apps for the information. Google seems to subscribe to this "information first" philosophy as evidenced by its effort on products like Google Now, and by its design of android, which reserves the homescreen mainly for information (in the form of widgets) while storing most apps in the app drawer.
iOS is pretty much dead with the release of the 7th version. They need to put Scott Forstall back in charge. The sooner they realize that , the better.
Indeed. Doesn't prove the headline, doesn't even stick to one gist. In one paragraph it's a history of desktop computers, another it's a review of iOS 7, next name calling.
Saddest part is that this is typical DED writing. They all generally suck in terms of writing skill and yet no one on the staff has bothered to point this out to him
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Apple isn't making a huge UI change because what they introduced in 2007 still works. No one has demonstrated that the grid of icons no longer works or something else is much better.
I agree that a static grid still works, but that's not saying much. It also worked for Windows Mobile when you clicked its Programs button. It also worked for the Palm Pilot. Heck, it worked for the original Mac.
I mildly disagree that no one has shown anything better, as I do think that a static grid of app icons is misusing the space. Active icons/widgets can be very handy as little windows into an app's info / status.
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With Windows 8 and its live tiles how much can you really glean staring at the screen?
Here, I'm in total agreement with you that the colors and arrangement (or lack of) of the Windows tiles are a mess to view. I think they had a good idea, but screwed up the artistic implementation.
--
Btw, I kept meaning to find time to reply to a post you made a week or two ago. In it, you proposed something along the lines that perhaps Apple was trying to mature iOS slightly away from the even-a-baby-can-do-it style. (Please correct me if I got that wrong.)
I think that's very insightful, and yes, that would be a major move for Apple, relatively speaking. I think it has to be done... that the training wheels eventually have to come off... as people in general get more savvy about using smartphones.
I even think there's a good place for a switch between child - medium - expert modes. Most especially I think that tablets are way overdue for having multiple user profiles.
Hardly. If you go back and look at the actual facts you'll see that the drop was almost entirely to do with the so called expert bloggers and analysts putting out article after article about issues, delays, sales failures (based on not reaching the same analysts extremely overblown estimates)
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Originally Posted by enature
For Steve Jobs, "the best" had a simple meaning - the best product is the one that takes the least effort to use. The Principle of Least Effort was inseparable from Steve Jobs.
Cook, on the other hand, complicates the definition of "the best" by adding considerations that he himself is good at - production logistics, cost/profit analysis, supply chain considerations.
Hunh? There are a lot of published sources out there from which one can reasonably deduce what Steve Jobs means by "the best" product. But how were you ever able to deduce what Tim Cook's thinking is on the matter? Did you ask him and that's what he told you? Were you able to glean some hidden meaning from the keynote presentations? Otherwise, this is all just a bunch of speculative B.S. about what motivates T.C.
Yes but how much of that was due to Forstall's skill as a designer and programmer versus loyalty to another NeXT employee and the fact that Forstall had similar notions about skeuomorphic design etc
And remember that Steve allegedly told Tim not to ever ask What Would Steve Do? If this is true then it was a blessing to go in new directions etc. Including a less 'realistic' UI and a more collaborative work flow. Something that wouldn't have worked so great given the rumors that Forstall was a grade A jerk who refused to take feedback from anyone but Steve. So that would have added to reasons why Forstall and Apple weren't going to continue together.
What profit? My point is that they're not making any. Yes it's cheaper to use Android but hasn't benefited anyone except Samsung.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Good comparison with the auto industry (surprisingly an industry that compares well with the computer industry on a number of levels). Also a reason why you'll see Samsung start making its own "engine" soon.
That's why deep in my heart, I am praying that Apple acquires Tesla. I sincerely believe that the Apple way could be applied at great benefit to industries other than tech. Jobs himself stated that if he had the time and opportunity, he would have wanted to get into the auto business and fix it. He also said that the auto companies used to do 'integrated' really well.
I also like to imagine what the airline industry would be like if Apple took over one of the carriers.
Given that the only UI change was a totally unneeded moving shadow trick and it released with a huge wifi bug that screwed a significant percent of folks for a couple of updates, I am inclined to agree
Well said. Steve Jobs was a genius at understanding that a well designed quality built product is functional, intuitive and thus easy to use. Thus Apple products generate a great deal of customer satisfaction and loyalty.
So true,
And for some reason, Microsoft still to this day believes they can just sit back and "MAINLY" only offer Windows OS, Office whatever, and backend Server OSes, over and over, and just keep raking cash in over and over, for recycled never redone code.
Sad part is, there will seem always be people who shell out that $100 a year for Windows, and now $100 a year for Office. Damn, sickening.
Think about this they have 20,000,000+ people giving them $4,000,000,000 or more a year? For recycled code with barely any improvements and this is just in America (US). Free money, for LIFE, for Microsoft. They don't even have to DO ANYTHING. Just call it Windows 9, Office 2015, 4 billion in the US that year... GEES. for nothin. It's insane and then what do they do with that money? Just pay there 5,000+ employees to sit around and do nothing.
Silly-ness
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Originally Posted by Povilas
No difference. Since it's the same hardware everywhere i think "runs fine" by your standards is f'ed up by mine.
Turning off background app updating helped my 4s immensely. With battery drain.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
I will tell you a story.
Here in Portugal (and Spain) Android is much more mainstream than iPhones, for a variety of reasons. One of them is that the nearest Apple Store is in another country (Spain), and the second is that Samsung and their ads are everywhere.
One of those things that every android user knows (and must know, really) is how to switch Wifi, 3g, bluetooth, etc. on and off. It's actually easy, and they have to do it... you will realize why, soon enough.
A few days ago, a few americans arrived here to study during the semester. iPhones everywhere! Since I own a mac and am a good-looking son of a b*cth, the girls (and the boys lol) approached me and asked if I knew how to set the internet on their iPhones. On iPhones, the process is very easy because you don't even need to configure the network, it's only username and password.
First question (by me):
-Ok, I know how to do it. Can you please go to settings and Wifi? They answered...
-"How do you do that?!".
After a brief conversation, they (all of them!) said that they never got that deep into the settings app (lol). The bluetooth was always on. The Wifi was always on. GPS was on. 3G was on. One of them was really hot so I was turned on too. Everything was on.
For an Android user, it is unthinkable to have the phone in those same conditions and have more than 2h battery life, even on "high end" devices. Things like that are only a privilege to iPhone users, so when they complain that their phones only hold a charge during 8h, I laugh.
It's like people saying that the S4 and the note have much bigger batteries, so they have a much better battery life... Meanwhile the iPhone and iPad wins every test when both screens are on, and on extensive tasks there is no contest.
Apple is doing a great job with their mobile processors and batteries. The a6 was a marvel, the things that they manage to do with small batteries are great. Can't wait for the end of the year...
Very well described. However, I think here is an advantage that Apple should exploit. Instead of making the 5S as thin as 5, Apple should increase its battery life to 12 hours. Then Apple will silence a lot of the bashings from the media I truly believe.
What, via battery life? I don't think so.