So it never occurred to you to have a retina display on the MBA? You do not think having a retina display on the MBA is worth doing?
The Samsung ATIV 9 is the same weight as the MBA and has a high DPI 13" touch display (3200x1800) with 12 hour battery and Haswell.
I will agree Apple pushed high DPI displays first and the MBA was first in powerful portability. Which is why it is surprising Apple has not combined those while Samsung has. Given Apple's refresh rate on the MBA, that means at least a full year before we can expect Apple to do the same.
Sometimes old is just old. Doesn't mean it's bad, just been around so long people see it differently compared to what's perceived as new. No matter how many facelifts you give Zsa-Zsa, she's still old. Windows Whatever is still Windows. Apple was smart in not making its mobile OS another cat. iOS is seen as the fresh face.
Yeah iOS is the fresh face....lol. parralax effect and pastel colors....so different from the grid of icons from the first iPhone! I'll take my WP8 look and feel over iOS anyday thank you. (although iOS is getting closer after copying some of the style of WP and Android!)
So it never occurred to you to have a retina display on the MBA? You do not think having a retina display on the MBA is worth doing?
The Samsung ATIV 9 is the same weight as the MBA and has a high DPI 13" touch display (3200x1800) with 12 hour battery and Haswell.
I will agree Apple pushed high DPI displays first and the MBA was first in powerful portability. Which is why it is surprising Apple has not combined those while Samsung has. Given Apple's refresh rate on the MBA, that means at least a full year before we can expect Apple to do the same.
Not true, the ATIV 9 is heavier than the 13" MBA.
13" MacBook air : 2.96 pounds ($1099)
Samsung ATIV 9 : 3.17 pounds (estimated to be $1500-$1900)
13" Retina MacBook Pro : 3.57 pounds ($1499) - is about to be updated to Haswell.
By the time the ATIV 9 actually reaches customers, the rMBP will have been updated to Haswell with vast improvements to battery life (even more so with Mavericks), and it would not be surprising that Apple will shave off some weight and thickness on the rMBP to the point where the difference with the ATIV 9 will be negligible (except that the ATIV 9 may be more expensive).
<span style="line-height:1.231;">Samsung's new ultrabook does what everyone had hoped the just refreshed Macbook Air would do, so that is a better comparison. We will have to wait another year to see if Apple can catch up to where Samsung is now.</span>
come back, Samsung fanboy, when (1) you can actually buy the ATVI 9, and (2) there has been independent testing of its claims. right now, all you got is pure hype.
I'm glad MSFT finally updated Favorites functionality and syncing in IE 11. Welcome to 2010 Microsoft
Let me try to recap the "BIG" announcements today:
- Addition of a Start button
- Ability to launch Windows 8.1 in desktop mode
- Bing enhancements
Did I get this right? Did I miss anything else significant? Please help me understand better, because I don't know why this POS continues to get so much attention
come back, Samsung fanboy, when (1) you can actually buy the ATVI 9, and (2) there has been independent testing of its claims. right now, all you got is pure hype.
It's sad when expressing a basic desire like having a retina display on the MBA (to replace my current MBA) gets me labeled a Samsung fanboy. That won't stop me from upgrading my Windows laptop to an ATIV 9 when it is released with Windows 8.1 this fall and enjoying what I had hoped to enjoy with a MBA upgrade. I still hold hope that Apple will eventually follow Samsung with a retina MBA. I guess that sort of devotion makes me an Apple fanboy.
They just did their 2nd developer conference in 9 months. And, they had almost nothing to say about mobile devices and smartphones. Zero announcements regarding their mobile operating systems, hardware or new services
I don't see how this will end well for Microsoft. Even in their core PC business. It's very subjective and anecdotal, but easily 50% of everyone around me buying notebooks and desktops now is buying Apple
Also, if it's a Samsung device, it's probably using a pen-tile display, and thus the pixel count is basically just a lie.
I'm yet to see laptop with pen-tile screen. Regardless resolution, on 13" screen it is still around 270 dpi "only", which would hurt much more with pen-tile than it does on higher density phone screens. Not to mention that Samsung was/is doing screens for Apple as well, so they obviously can create hi-res non-pen-tile screen. Your "probably" is at best "maybe", a bit too early to call it a lie.
It's sad when expressing a basic desire like having a retina display on the MBA (to replace my current MBA) gets me labeled a Samsung fanboy. That won't stop me from upgrading my Windows laptop to an ATIV 9 when it is released with Windows 8.1 this fall and enjoying what I had hoped to enjoy with a MBA upgrade. I still hold hope that Apple will eventually follow Samsung with a retina MBA. I guess that sort of devotion makes me an Apple fanboy.
Worst part related to Apple, for me, is rabidity and hysteria of so many Apple followers. There are fanatics on every platform, but somehow it seems Apple has more. Is it result of Apple elitist marketing approach earlier on, or some sort of inferiority complex rooted during Apple's struggling years - or something completely different - I cannot say; but number of rude smartasses I am encountering here is, in general, higher than any other forum I frequent.
What's the difference with this start menu vs the 8.0 start menu where you mouse over to the bottom left corner and click? Your software can be found on the right screen edge inside the Search charm, is the start menu all that important anymore for desktop? Anyway the web search feature here looks quite nice, the one within the modern UI. See this is the confusing part, you have search and then you also have search.
AI correct your headline. They didn't bring back the Start Menu. It is just Start button with right click to access Settings.
+1
I thought we'd see the start menu. But really there's no difference. Lower left hand corner still brings up the start screen - it's just now there's a 'button' to show the user how to do that. What a mess.
The author has misinterpreted what Microsoft has added to this update. For Windows 8.1, Microsoft essentially added lipstick to a pig expecting users to be ignorant enough to believe they have incorporated what the majority of users want which is providing the option to have both the Start Button and Start Menu.
8.1 is essentially having a Start Button (Short Cut) which takes you back to the Metro GUI which is the Start Screen showing all the pretty App Icons that you have to scroll horizontally. It does not have a Start Menu which is what everyone has been requesting and still have to relay on purchasing a third party app to display the Start Menu.
If Microsoft can only provide the 'option' to enable/disable this feature, this will be a huge step in the right direction however the approach there taking is nothing more than smoke and mirrors as the end of the day you are forced to go back to Metro to open any of your apps unless you manually add a short cut your self on the desktop.
This is Microsoft's game to lose. They do have a compelling ecosystem, have great support, and develop good programs to train armies of support techs/engineers. They stumble but recover. Their migration to Office 365 and Azure are widely praised.
Few individuals have to buy Windows directly and most will just use what comes on their new PCs or what the IT department gives them. (Even if they bring their own they're likely logging onto a Windows network or connecting to a Microsoft mail server). Microsoft is going to be able to recover from the really poor migration to Windows 8 with revenue intact.
Anyway, Windows 8.1 isn't going to correct all the mistakes of Windows 8 but IMO they really don't have to. They really, really should but they don't have to.
I want whatever YOU'RE drinking! Apparently you have no idea that enterprise, Institutional, and government buyers are not adopting Windows 8. And thanks for the news flash on Office 365 being "widely praised." Last I heard laptop users (and that's the growing segment of computers) don't like to be somewhere they can't access or edit their documents due to poor or no Internet.
And thanks for the news flash on Office 365 being "widely praised." Last I heard laptop users (and that's the growing segment of computers) don't like to be somewhere they can't access or edit their documents due to poor or no Internet.
Yeah because large companies still use dial up to access the internet and have never heard of LTE.
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Funny, but my MBP can have a zillion windows open on multiple virtual desktops.
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Not sure I understand this line of thought.
So it never occurred to you to have a retina display on the MBA? You do not think having a retina display on the MBA is worth doing?
The Samsung ATIV 9 is the same weight as the MBA and has a high DPI 13" touch display (3200x1800) with 12 hour battery and Haswell.
I will agree Apple pushed high DPI displays first and the MBA was first in powerful portability. Which is why it is surprising Apple has not combined those while Samsung has. Given Apple's refresh rate on the MBA, that means at least a full year before we can expect Apple to do the same.
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Sometimes old is just old. Doesn't mean it's bad, just been around so long people see it differently compared to what's perceived as new. No matter how many facelifts you give Zsa-Zsa, she's still old. Windows Whatever is still Windows. Apple was smart in not making its mobile OS another cat. iOS is seen as the fresh face.
Yeah iOS is the fresh face....lol. parralax effect and pastel colors....so different from the grid of icons from the first iPhone! I'll take my WP8 look and feel over iOS anyday thank you. (although iOS is getting closer after copying some of the style of WP and Android!)
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Originally Posted by JollyPaul
So it never occurred to you to have a retina display on the MBA? You do not think having a retina display on the MBA is worth doing?
The Samsung ATIV 9 is the same weight as the MBA and has a high DPI 13" touch display (3200x1800) with 12 hour battery and Haswell.
I will agree Apple pushed high DPI displays first and the MBA was first in powerful portability. Which is why it is surprising Apple has not combined those while Samsung has. Given Apple's refresh rate on the MBA, that means at least a full year before we can expect Apple to do the same.
Not true, the ATIV 9 is heavier than the 13" MBA.
13" MacBook air : 2.96 pounds ($1099)
Samsung ATIV 9 : 3.17 pounds (estimated to be $1500-$1900)
13" Retina MacBook Pro : 3.57 pounds ($1499) - is about to be updated to Haswell.
By the time the ATIV 9 actually reaches customers, the rMBP will have been updated to Haswell with vast improvements to battery life (even more so with Mavericks), and it would not be surprising that Apple will shave off some weight and thickness on the rMBP to the point where the difference with the ATIV 9 will be negligible (except that the ATIV 9 may be more expensive).
Oh my God...I need some Dramamine after watching that absolutely horrid, confusing, and stupidly unhelpful video.
I'm glad MSFT finally updated Favorites functionality and syncing in IE 11. Welcome to 2010 Microsoft
Let me try to recap the "BIG" announcements today:
- Addition of a Start button
- Ability to launch Windows 8.1 in desktop mode
- Bing enhancements
Did I get this right? Did I miss anything else significant? Please help me understand better, because I don't know why this POS continues to get so much attention
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr
come back, Samsung fanboy, when (1) you can actually buy the ATVI 9, and (2) there has been independent testing of its claims. right now, all you got is pure hype.
It's sad when expressing a basic desire like having a retina display on the MBA (to replace my current MBA) gets me labeled a Samsung fanboy. That won't stop me from upgrading my Windows laptop to an ATIV 9 when it is released with Windows 8.1 this fall and enjoying what I had hoped to enjoy with a MBA upgrade. I still hold hope that Apple will eventually follow Samsung with a retina MBA. I guess that sort of devotion makes me an Apple fanboy.
They just did their 2nd developer conference in 9 months. And, they had almost nothing to say about mobile devices and smartphones. Zero announcements regarding their mobile operating systems, hardware or new services
I don't see how this will end well for Microsoft. Even in their core PC business. It's very subjective and anecdotal, but easily 50% of everyone around me buying notebooks and desktops now is buying Apple
BA HA HA HA HA!
I'm yet to see laptop with pen-tile screen. Regardless resolution, on 13" screen it is still around 270 dpi "only", which would hurt much more with pen-tile than it does on higher density phone screens. Not to mention that Samsung was/is doing screens for Apple as well, so they obviously can create hi-res non-pen-tile screen. Your "probably" is at best "maybe", a bit too early to call it a lie.
Worst part related to Apple, for me, is rabidity and hysteria of so many Apple followers. There are fanatics on every platform, but somehow it seems Apple has more. Is it result of Apple elitist marketing approach earlier on, or some sort of inferiority complex rooted during Apple's struggling years - or something completely different - I cannot say; but number of rude smartasses I am encountering here is, in general, higher than any other forum I frequent.
I thought we'd see the start menu. But really there's no difference. Lower left hand corner still brings up the start screen - it's just now there's a 'button' to show the user how to do that. What a mess.
The author has misinterpreted what Microsoft has added to this update. For Windows 8.1, Microsoft essentially added lipstick to a pig expecting users to be ignorant enough to believe they have incorporated what the majority of users want which is providing the option to have both the Start Button and Start Menu.
8.1 is essentially having a Start Button (Short Cut) which takes you back to the Metro GUI which is the Start Screen showing all the pretty App Icons that you have to scroll horizontally. It does not have a Start Menu which is what everyone has been requesting and still have to relay on purchasing a third party app to display the Start Menu.
If Microsoft can only provide the 'option' to enable/disable this feature, this will be a huge step in the right direction however the approach there taking is nothing more than smoke and mirrors as the end of the day you are forced to go back to Metro to open any of your apps unless you manually add a short cut your self on the desktop.
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Originally Posted by ddawson100
This is Microsoft's game to lose. They do have a compelling ecosystem, have great support, and develop good programs to train armies of support techs/engineers. They stumble but recover. Their migration to Office 365 and Azure are widely praised.
Few individuals have to buy Windows directly and most will just use what comes on their new PCs or what the IT department gives them. (Even if they bring their own they're likely logging onto a Windows network or connecting to a Microsoft mail server). Microsoft is going to be able to recover from the really poor migration to Windows 8 with revenue intact.
Anyway, Windows 8.1 isn't going to correct all the mistakes of Windows 8 but IMO they really don't have to. They really, really should but they don't have to.
I want whatever YOU'RE drinking! Apparently you have no idea that enterprise, Institutional, and government buyers are not adopting Windows 8. And thanks for the news flash on Office 365 being "widely praised." Last I heard laptop users (and that's the growing segment of computers) don't like to be somewhere they can't access or edit their documents due to poor or no Internet.
Look at Uncle Fester's grim expression as he doles out the "giant leap back."
I wonder how many of the executives hanging around Fester will be soon cut due to reorganization.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
And thanks for the news flash on Office 365 being "widely praised." Last I heard laptop users (and that's the growing segment of computers) don't like to be somewhere they can't access or edit their documents due to poor or no Internet.
Yeah because large companies still use dial up to access the internet and have never heard of LTE.