I'll bet a million dollars that it is legit and it's coming this autumn! There was also a video of this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44biradk84Y
If you think this is not legit...
Plastic iPhone is coming. I dont deny that. Contrary to some I think plastic have its place.
And I know a cheaper version of iPhone is coming, and it will properly be in plastic.
Has anyone noted the single speaker grille? I've always assumed that the two on current phones were right and left stereo. Is new one to be mono to lower cost?
When the first iPhone was released, a single page website showed up a few months later. The URL was "whyismyiphonesleftspeakerbroken.com" or something along those lines. The page was white, had a picture of an iPhone, and the text "IT'S A MICROPHONE, IDIOT." to combat the people whining about how one of their "speakers" was broken.
It's still cheap plastic and criticized by many on here of other manufacturers that use it. It's hypocrisy no matter what words you use.
Terrible to be called hypocritical by the most helpful and constructive professional poster around here. Since the word come from the Greek hupokrit?s, for stage actor, someone who pretends to be what he is not, I stand accused by the very person who is most acutely aware of this sort of pretense.
In my defense, I can only say that I have always, since this topic of plastic iPhone came up, pointed out that there are two ways of doing plastic, Samsung's and Apple's, as examples.
Samsung seems to find glossy and greasy-looking surfaces acceptable. Just go to a store and look at the ceiling lights reflected in the back of any recent Galaxy phone. Earlier ones were worse, though. Samsung's plastic engineers found a way to embed some crazy simulated woven texture underneath the polyurethane-looking glop layer. Later Galaxies are using the post-biege nightmare from the 90s, silver grey, again under a glossy-sticky layer.
Contrast with Apple's approach, like the white polycarbonate used on the 2nd generation iBooks and the basic MacBooks. I have one of these, and the look and feel of it never gets old. I'd compare it to the ivory-colored plastic that Mercedes used for their steering wheels in the 50s and 60s, but I don't know if anyone would know those. Still fewer would know the similar plastic used for the knobs and buttons used on 50s Grundig radios, but I imagine Jony Ive is aware of it. When you look at Bakelite and cellulose plastics of the past you see that resins and polymers have a long history of being beautiful, and Samsung seems to have no idea of it.
The new Fiat 500 has an ivory dashboard plastic that looks very tasty, particularly when combined with that light green paint color that they've resurrected from the 50s.
I doubt that Samsung's designers will be able to catch up with the retro celluloid look and feel that's going on in plastic right now, which I think Apple will be referencing for the European and Asians in particular. Just watch them sell tens of millions of their Bakelite and celluloid colored phones.
As for their commitment to machined aluminum, it's totally inappropriate for something that gets knocked and scraped around like a people's phone will. Save the art pieces for the customers with more comfortable lives.
whatever it's called, there is no way in hell it's something as asinine as "iphone lite" Why not add "as seen on TV" in an blurb while we are at it. More than likely it will just be the "New iPhone 5"
I'm sorry but the larger phone argument is nothing more than the weak adverting influence mind at work. People that see 5" Android phones just think that is a natural evolution because it EXISTS.
Remember, Dinosaurs kept getting bigger too, until about half through the Jurassic, when the herbivores had reached the largest-animal-ever plateau... nature said Size just isn't cutting it, and they moved to a new product line called the Cretaceous, where Herbivores evened out at an average size, and Carnivores kept getting bigger until they were too big to proliferate. Then the whole thing went tits up.
Honestly, I'm not crazy about the pastel colors Apple has been using these days. I'd like to see more solid colors, earth tones. When they produce a navy blue iPhone, I'll be all over it.
Are they pricing things in dollars in China, now? You do realise that Apple is not all contracts are American style contracts, and China is not growing share for Apple. Ergo, a same priced machine wouldn't work. Its pointless.
Heres the iPhone Lite with the internal of the 5 and its in plastic, and it's got the same price the 5 - which isn't plastic - would have been. Go wild.
Clearly they are going plastic for cheapness sake. Which means they may be making other compromises. Otherwise why not continue to make the 5?
I'm sure you're right. But I'm also sure that the base model iPhone Lite will not sell for less than $399 US.
I am taking from this that big phones will go tits up when a major asteroid hits destroying most flora, and fauna on Earth? Ok.....
/ walks away slowly
No, they'll go belly up when the "bigger" fad has had its day, and Apple is still selling the same 4" 1136 x 640 display on all its handhelds.
I've read up on this quite a bit and I do see the possibility of them going slightly larger than 4"...maybe.... I don't remember the exact measurements, but there was an example of how they could do it "Apple style" without compromising DPI, resolution, or developers. I think it was something like 4.2" diagonal. With the next option being 4.8", and at that point being way too big for one handed use.
[...] at that point being way too big for one handed use.
I don't understand that objective. Why is it so critical that one be able to operate their phone with one hand? What are they doing with the other one?
If that's important to you, don't buy the bigger one. If, like me, you use both hands anyway, what difference does it make?
I don't understand that objective. Why is it so critical that one be able to operate their phone with one hand? What are they doing with the other one?
If that's important to you, don't buy the bigger one. If, like me, you use both hands anyway, what difference does it make?
??? Because the entire device is designed around one-handed use? Go back to design/engineering school.
How about you pull your head out of that cavern, go outside, and find people with smartphones. Take note of how many hands they use.
Your snarky, selfish remark is meaningless and does not apply to the real world.
Samsung and the other category are producing devices too large for one-handed use. They are not doing especially well, and they will NOT stand the test of time, and they will NOT see widespread adoption.
If you're under the impression that 5" phones are going to the new 'standard' at any point in time, you are terribly mistaken.
My guess iPhone lite gets 1/2 generation behind newest iPhone internals & is quicker, easier, cheaper, faster to assemble
You guess right.
You can expect this device to be an iPhone 5 in every way. There may a compromise or component difference here or there, but nothing that will take away from it being a solid iPhone 5. Because of this, I want one, as this design is vastly superior than the crap I carry around right now called iPhone 5.
These are daily-use devices. Data pads. They do not need to be prettier than they are practical, which is exactly what the iPhone 5 is.
I don't understand that objective. Why is it so critical that one be able to operate their phone with one hand? What are they doing with the other one?
If that's important to you, don't buy the bigger one. If, like me, you use both hands anyway, what difference does it make?
Porn? My fearless prediction, phablets will replace petite smart phones & mini tablets
??? Because the entire device is designed around one-handed use?
Obviously. I get that. What I don't understand is why?
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How about you pull your head out of that cavern, go outside, and find people with smartphones. Take note of how many hands they use.
I have, actually. I work in the middle of downtown Vancouver. Hipster Central. Everyone is texting, and they're all using two thumbs. That's part of what made me wonder who Apple is trying to satisfy with this one-handed design.
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Originally Posted by pmz
Your snarky, selfish remark is meaningless and does not apply to the real world.
I'm not sure how you got the impression that I'm being snarky. I didn't intend it that way. Sorry if I was unclear. I don't think it WAS "meaningless" though. I said, and meant, that I don't think one-handed use is as pervasive as those who do it believe. Perhaps it once was, but not anymore.
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Originally Posted by pmz
Samsung and the other category are producing devices too large for one-handed use. They are not doing especially well, and they will NOT stand the test of time, and they will NOT see widespread adoption.
In MY neighborhood they already have. I don't have one myself because I very much prefer to stay with iOS, but they're everywhere. I don't mean I see one every so often, I mean the streets are littered with them. I still see more 4-series iPhones than big phones, but surprisingly, very few iPhone 5.
Note that I'm simply making an observation and make no endorsement or value judgement. Obviously the sample is too small to be meaningful on a global scale, but it does suggest (to me, anyway) that consumer demand is there, at least here.
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Plastic iPhone is coming. I dont deny that. Contrary to some I think plastic have its place.
And I know a cheaper version of iPhone is coming, and it will properly be in plastic.
But that doesn't mean it is legit.
Let's wait and see.
Sales Figures of What? US?
Bigger iPhone will come, likely in the iPhone 6 era.
Nope.
"Quit trolling."?
Also, "It's cheap plastic."
When the first iPhone was released, a single page website showed up a few months later. The URL was "whyismyiphonesleftspeakerbroken.com" or something along those lines. The page was white, had a picture of an iPhone, and the text "IT'S A MICROPHONE, IDIOT." to combat the people whining about how one of their "speakers" was broken.
I'm surprised it's still needed.
Terrible to be called hypocritical by the most helpful and constructive professional poster around here. Since the word come from the Greek hupokrit?s, for stage actor, someone who pretends to be what he is not, I stand accused by the very person who is most acutely aware of this sort of pretense.
In my defense, I can only say that I have always, since this topic of plastic iPhone came up, pointed out that there are two ways of doing plastic, Samsung's and Apple's, as examples.
Samsung seems to find glossy and greasy-looking surfaces acceptable. Just go to a store and look at the ceiling lights reflected in the back of any recent Galaxy phone. Earlier ones were worse, though. Samsung's plastic engineers found a way to embed some crazy simulated woven texture underneath the polyurethane-looking glop layer. Later Galaxies are using the post-biege nightmare from the 90s, silver grey, again under a glossy-sticky layer.
Contrast with Apple's approach, like the white polycarbonate used on the 2nd generation iBooks and the basic MacBooks. I have one of these, and the look and feel of it never gets old. I'd compare it to the ivory-colored plastic that Mercedes used for their steering wheels in the 50s and 60s, but I don't know if anyone would know those. Still fewer would know the similar plastic used for the knobs and buttons used on 50s Grundig radios, but I imagine Jony Ive is aware of it. When you look at Bakelite and cellulose plastics of the past you see that resins and polymers have a long history of being beautiful, and Samsung seems to have no idea of it.
The new Fiat 500 has an ivory dashboard plastic that looks very tasty, particularly when combined with that light green paint color that they've resurrected from the 50s.
I doubt that Samsung's designers will be able to catch up with the retro celluloid look and feel that's going on in plastic right now, which I think Apple will be referencing for the European and Asians in particular. Just watch them sell tens of millions of their Bakelite and celluloid colored phones.
As for their commitment to machined aluminum, it's totally inappropriate for something that gets knocked and scraped around like a people's phone will. Save the art pieces for the customers with more comfortable lives.
Edit: afterthoughts.
whatever it's called, there is no way in hell it's something as asinine as "iphone lite" Why not add "as seen on TV" in an blurb while we are at it. More than likely it will just be the "New iPhone 5"
And these don't look glossy and greasy looking, or are you so mesmerized by the Apple insignia that you don't see it?
I'm sure you're right. But I'm also sure that the base model iPhone Lite will not sell for less than $399 US.
No, they'll go belly up when the "bigger" fad has had its day, and Apple is still selling the same 4" 1136 x 640 display on all its handhelds.
I've read up on this quite a bit and I do see the possibility of them going slightly larger than 4"...maybe.... I don't remember the exact measurements, but there was an example of how they could do it "Apple style" without compromising DPI, resolution, or developers. I think it was something like 4.2" diagonal. With the next option being 4.8", and at that point being way too big for one handed use.
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Originally Posted by pmz
[...] at that point being way too big for one handed use.
I don't understand that objective. Why is it so critical that one be able to operate their phone with one hand? What are they doing with the other one?
If that's important to you, don't buy the bigger one. If, like me, you use both hands anyway, what difference does it make?
You do see the plastic cover don't you? Those can make anything look like crap.
??? Because the entire device is designed around one-handed use? Go back to design/engineering school.
How about you pull your head out of that cavern, go outside, and find people with smartphones. Take note of how many hands they use.
Your snarky, selfish remark is meaningless and does not apply to the real world.
Samsung and the other category are producing devices too large for one-handed use. They are not doing especially well, and they will NOT stand the test of time, and they will NOT see widespread adoption.
If you're under the impression that 5" phones are going to the new 'standard' at any point in time, you are terribly mistaken.
You guess right.
You can expect this device to be an iPhone 5 in every way. There may a compromise or component difference here or there, but nothing that will take away from it being a solid iPhone 5. Because of this, I want one, as this design is vastly superior than the crap I carry around right now called iPhone 5.
These are daily-use devices. Data pads. They do not need to be prettier than they are practical, which is exactly what the iPhone 5 is.
Thank you. I'm not sure he "does nuance" like plastic covers, though.
Porn? My fearless prediction, phablets will replace petite smart phones & mini tablets
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Originally Posted by pmz
??? Because the entire device is designed around one-handed use?
Obviously. I get that. What I don't understand is why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmz
How about you pull your head out of that cavern, go outside, and find people with smartphones. Take note of how many hands they use.
I have, actually. I work in the middle of downtown Vancouver. Hipster Central. Everyone is texting, and they're all using two thumbs. That's part of what made me wonder who Apple is trying to satisfy with this one-handed design.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmz
Your snarky, selfish remark is meaningless and does not apply to the real world.
I'm not sure how you got the impression that I'm being snarky. I didn't intend it that way. Sorry if I was unclear. I don't think it WAS "meaningless" though. I said, and meant, that I don't think one-handed use is as pervasive as those who do it believe. Perhaps it once was, but not anymore.
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Originally Posted by pmz
Samsung and the other category are producing devices too large for one-handed use. They are not doing especially well, and they will NOT stand the test of time, and they will NOT see widespread adoption.
In MY neighborhood they already have. I don't have one myself because I very much prefer to stay with iOS, but they're everywhere. I don't mean I see one every so often, I mean the streets are littered with them. I still see more 4-series iPhones than big phones, but surprisingly, very few iPhone 5.
Note that I'm simply making an observation and make no endorsement or value judgement. Obviously the sample is too small to be meaningful on a global scale, but it does suggest (to me, anyway) that consumer demand is there, at least here.