Apart that shareholder-thieves (like some we all know names of, from reading Ai) will demand that this cash is given to them. That suddenly makes it way less than 20 years.
Anyway, I never understood why, in America, companies go private when they get in trouble, instead of when they get the money to do so and operate fine. Seems that insulating yourself from the whims of the market is strategically essential, if I look at other big companies such as Yahoo...
Then again, I guess that Tim Cook knows what he's doing, so we can trust him ^^
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
Yes I know, but isn't the best time to be free from outside influence the time where you rock, rather than when you're dying anyway? No pressure to launch a cheap iPhone, an iWatch, an iTV, an iWhatever, just what you THINK you should make?
The God you're referring to is a very bad example.
Not like he's the only God around, after all.
By fiat, he is. If you check out Merlin Stone's The Paradise Papers, published in the U.S. as When God Was a Woman, you can acquaint yourself with a virtually unassailable hypothesis that the god of the Indo-European steppe nomads became the god worshipped as the only god by Jews, Christians and Moslems, by conquest and by the spread of patriarchy and the suppression of feminine "Nature spirituality."
The I-E nomads knew him as the "sky-father," Dyaus Pitar in Sanskrit, Jupiter in Latin, Zeus in Greek. I think the Semitic connection happened in Syria where Indo-Europeans (Hittites and Luvians) became the contolling class over Hurrians and Semites (represented by Abraham). Later the genitive case of Jupiter, Jove, became the name Yaweh.
Almost no one has picked up on this hypothesis, for obvious reasons. Did you have other gods in mind? They belonged to an earlier stratum. Some, like Odin and Thor, can be traced to the I-E sky-father as well.
Yes I know, but isn't the best time to be free from outside influence the time where you rock, rather than when you're dying anyway? No pressure to launch a cheap iPhone, an iWatch, an iTV, an iWhatever, just what you THINK you should make?
Well if you're rocking or about to rock, you would need money. The easiest way to get a lot of money is to go public.
"The" IGZO? It's never "the" IGZO, like with "the Pope." There are many popes.
There is only one IGZO, so it's just "IGZO." Like with "God." You never say "the" God.
Nobody will be "spitting out" these panels in the millions until the required billions are spent on production R&D, by either a Samsung or an Apple, and/or a Foxconn. I just mention the technology so these guys will do their homework before toying with IGZOism.
The point is, we are at a threshold point with displays, like that which existed right before CRTs would be obsolesced by LCDs. It was the LCD display combined with the touchscreen that gave Apple its impetus starting in the late 90s, and culminating in the iPhone and iPad only six and three years ago, respectively. Development of solid state memory also contributed, of course. You could say that mobile computing was first made both powerful and humane by Apple, based on the LCD touchscreen. Not by HP, or Palm, or Microsoft or Samsung, but by Apple, and they're still riding this wave, which is about to hit the beach.
The next wave is the deep LCD screen, and as a sideshow till it matures, the deep OLED screen. These will depend on the doubling (at least) of pixel density made possible by higher-energy substrates like IGZO. I'm way out of my element here, and so leave it for others to finish the thought. But I think I know a big wave when I see one forming out there, and I think Steve Jobs and Apple were on to this one years ago.
I would say that Larry Ellison is eyeing Apple like he does Malibu real estate.
well, judging from the various Press Releases Sharp has been releasing, their new IGZO technology is in the process of being released into physical form for which companies like Apple can potentially use to replace the existing LCD's they currently use. IGZO panels are supposed to be able to reach high resolution, require less power than the current panels typically being used for tablets, smartphones, monitors, TVs, etc., etc. The type of screens Apple currently uses for the iPhones/iPads requires more power than AMOLED, which what most of the others use, but AMOLED tends not to have as good color accuracy and there have been burn in problems where over a period of time, the color gets faded or burn in from white images can sometimes be seen.
What we are reading is that Apple made a huge investment in Sharp for the use of IGZO technology as Sharp got away from obviously plasma. So, we might start to see new products from Apple deploying IGZO based screens. Obviously, the technology you were discussing isn't even close to being ready for production.
well, judging from the various Press Releases Sharp has been releasing, their new IGZO technology is in the process of being released into physical form for which companies like Apple can potentially use to replace the existing LCD's they currently use.
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
Well, there are different reasons to go private, some are to prevent an unfriendly buyout. That's the case with Dell, at least from what I read in the first articles regarding why Dell is going private.
The problem publicly traded companies face is not only having to report their financials (which is good if you are doing well and trying to attract business or shareholders buying stock). The down side of going public is that it actually costs the company money when due to the excessive amount of reporting that's required, plus if you want to buy another publicly traded company, you have to get SEC approval and sometimes they won't allow certain companies to buy certain other companies. Example. it might be a cold day in Hell for Microsoft to buy certain publicly traded companies as the SEC wouldn't allow Microsoft to buy certain companies. Microsoft couldn't buy Apple, for instance (even if they had the money).
I've heard that Microsoft might be looking at acquiring PC hardware mfg because that might be the only way for them to increase revenues because Windows certainly isn't doing it on it's own. Plus, it would be much easier for Microsoft to enter the PC box business if they just bought existing companies with existing customers, and infrastructure. We'll see what happens with Dell.
Could Microsoft buy Dell if Dell was a publicly traded company? That might not fly with the SEC, but if Dell were a privately held company, the SEC has absolutely no say so. So, maybe Dell is trying to prevent certain types of buyouts, so they can better decide who to sell the company to? It's anyone's guess. The bottom line is that sometimes it's a necessary thing to do, but it's not common. It's usually done when the company isn't doing so well and they want to prevent certain buyouts that they don't want.
The Sharp Aquos smartphone with IGZO display was supposedly released last year. I've never seen one so I don't know how widely it was distributed nor whether the IGZO display delivered the benefits it promises.
I think that was just for the Japanese market. Do you live in Japan?
I thought IGZO was released this year, but maybe that was just Press Releases for their TVs and other OEM panels. God only knows. Some of these Asian companies do weird things where they market the product in their country first and everyone else doesn't see the product until a year or two down the road.
Obviously, we have to wait until the Apple announcement to see what panels they'll be using, but right now it's just speculation.
I think that was just for the Japanese market. Do you live in Japan?
I thought IGZO was released this year, but maybe that was just Press Releases for their TVs and other OEM panels. God only knows. Some of these Asian companies do weird things where they market the product in their country first and everyone else doesn't see the product until a year or two down the road.
Obviously, we have to wait until the Apple announcement to see what panels they'll be using, but right now it's just speculation.
Looks like it's available (or at least was) on eBay. There's also a few reviews from folks using one unlocked here in North America. The battery life gets props, but the display not so much. Comments about the quality of blacks and an overall yellowish cast. If accurate then perhaps that could be the delay on Apple's uptake if it's even in the plans in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Flaneur
"The" IGZO? It's never "the" IGZO, like with "the Pope." There are many popes.
But IGZO is a state of mind. You must embrace the IGZO.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
But IGZO is a state of mind. You must embrace the IGZO.
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
Yes I know, but isn't the best time to be free from outside influence the time where you rock, rather than when you're dying anyway? No pressure to launch a cheap iPhone, an iWatch, an iTV, an iWhatever, just what you THINK you should make?
By fiat, he is. If you check out Merlin Stone's The Paradise Papers, published in the U.S. as When God Was a Woman, you can acquaint yourself with a virtually unassailable hypothesis that the god of the Indo-European steppe nomads became the god worshipped as the only god by Jews, Christians and Moslems, by conquest and by the spread of patriarchy and the suppression of feminine "Nature spirituality."
The I-E nomads knew him as the "sky-father," Dyaus Pitar in Sanskrit, Jupiter in Latin, Zeus in Greek. I think the Semitic connection happened in Syria where Indo-Europeans (Hittites and Luvians) became the contolling class over Hurrians and Semites (represented by Abraham). Later the genitive case of Jupiter, Jove, became the name Yaweh.
Almost no one has picked up on this hypothesis, for obvious reasons. Did you have other gods in mind? They belonged to an earlier stratum. Some, like Odin and Thor, can be traced to the I-E sky-father as well.
Ok, I give up. For now. But be careful.
Well if you're rocking or about to rock, you would need money. The easiest way to get a lot of money is to go public.
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Originally Posted by Flaneur
"The" IGZO? It's never "the" IGZO, like with "the Pope." There are many popes.
There is only one IGZO, so it's just "IGZO." Like with "God." You never say "the" God.
Nobody will be "spitting out" these panels in the millions until the required billions are spent on production R&D, by either a Samsung or an Apple, and/or a Foxconn. I just mention the technology so these guys will do their homework before toying with IGZOism.
The point is, we are at a threshold point with displays, like that which existed right before CRTs would be obsolesced by LCDs. It was the LCD display combined with the touchscreen that gave Apple its impetus starting in the late 90s, and culminating in the iPhone and iPad only six and three years ago, respectively. Development of solid state memory also contributed, of course. You could say that mobile computing was first made both powerful and humane by Apple, based on the LCD touchscreen. Not by HP, or Palm, or Microsoft or Samsung, but by Apple, and they're still riding this wave, which is about to hit the beach.
The next wave is the deep LCD screen, and as a sideshow till it matures, the deep OLED screen. These will depend on the doubling (at least) of pixel density made possible by higher-energy substrates like IGZO. I'm way out of my element here, and so leave it for others to finish the thought. But I think I know a big wave when I see one forming out there, and I think Steve Jobs and Apple were on to this one years ago.
I would say that Larry Ellison is eyeing Apple like he does Malibu real estate.
well, judging from the various Press Releases Sharp has been releasing, their new IGZO technology is in the process of being released into physical form for which companies like Apple can potentially use to replace the existing LCD's they currently use. IGZO panels are supposed to be able to reach high resolution, require less power than the current panels typically being used for tablets, smartphones, monitors, TVs, etc., etc. The type of screens Apple currently uses for the iPhones/iPads requires more power than AMOLED, which what most of the others use, but AMOLED tends not to have as good color accuracy and there have been burn in problems where over a period of time, the color gets faded or burn in from white images can sometimes be seen.
What we are reading is that Apple made a huge investment in Sharp for the use of IGZO technology as Sharp got away from obviously plasma. So, we might start to see new products from Apple deploying IGZO based screens. Obviously, the technology you were discussing isn't even close to being ready for production.
The Sharp Aquos smartphone with IGZO display was supposedly released last year. I've never seen one so I don't know how widely it was distributed nor whether the IGZO display delivered the benefits it promises.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/11/sharp-aquos-phone-zeta-igzo-display/
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Companies go private to remove outside influences. They also don't need to report financial information.
Well, there are different reasons to go private, some are to prevent an unfriendly buyout. That's the case with Dell, at least from what I read in the first articles regarding why Dell is going private.
The problem publicly traded companies face is not only having to report their financials (which is good if you are doing well and trying to attract business or shareholders buying stock). The down side of going public is that it actually costs the company money when due to the excessive amount of reporting that's required, plus if you want to buy another publicly traded company, you have to get SEC approval and sometimes they won't allow certain companies to buy certain other companies. Example. it might be a cold day in Hell for Microsoft to buy certain publicly traded companies as the SEC wouldn't allow Microsoft to buy certain companies. Microsoft couldn't buy Apple, for instance (even if they had the money).
I've heard that Microsoft might be looking at acquiring PC hardware mfg because that might be the only way for them to increase revenues because Windows certainly isn't doing it on it's own. Plus, it would be much easier for Microsoft to enter the PC box business if they just bought existing companies with existing customers, and infrastructure. We'll see what happens with Dell.
Could Microsoft buy Dell if Dell was a publicly traded company? That might not fly with the SEC, but if Dell were a privately held company, the SEC has absolutely no say so. So, maybe Dell is trying to prevent certain types of buyouts, so they can better decide who to sell the company to? It's anyone's guess. The bottom line is that sometimes it's a necessary thing to do, but it's not common. It's usually done when the company isn't doing so well and they want to prevent certain buyouts that they don't want.
I was making funny with them, as the Isrealis say. Sorry I caught you up in it.
But there is a very interesting post here on performance per watt, linked to by Gruber, which bears on this display question:
http://stevecheney.com/on-the-future-of-ios-and-android/
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
The Sharp Aquos smartphone with IGZO display was supposedly released last year. I've never seen one so I don't know how widely it was distributed nor whether the IGZO display delivered the benefits it promises.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/11/sharp-aquos-phone-zeta-igzo-display/
I think that was just for the Japanese market. Do you live in Japan?
I thought IGZO was released this year, but maybe that was just Press Releases for their TVs and other OEM panels. God only knows. Some of these Asian companies do weird things where they market the product in their country first and everyone else doesn't see the product until a year or two down the road.
Obviously, we have to wait until the Apple announcement to see what panels they'll be using, but right now it's just speculation.
Looks like it's available (or at least was) on eBay. There's also a few reviews from folks using one unlocked here in North America. The battery life gets props, but the display not so much. Comments about the quality of blacks and an overall yellowish cast. If accurate then perhaps that could be the delay on Apple's uptake if it's even in the plans in the first place.
There's a fairly long discussion thread here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1785248-Sharp-Docomo-SH-02E-Aquos-Phone-Zeta-reviewed!