Were they Apple apps? Because this is talking about Google apps here. So that means built-in stuff that comes with the OS. If you're comparing third party apps on the iPad, you're not doing a proper comparison.
Maps app from Apple which was made by apple was buggy and you know how they it went on to create a bad impression on Apple right? if not I hope you see the world out of Apple insider with Biased posts like this..
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No, I was asking a question that you can't seem to answer, is all. At least back up your statement with an example of why it's crap or don't expect your "opinion" to be taken seriously.
I think I made it pretty clear with my previous answer..
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Utter nonsense.
Yup you are right, itunes is clearly...
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Show where anyone claimed that or stop with the strawmen.
May be read the article once again? That guy really seems to think that way.. Apple had many problems in its software and hardware as well and there are lots of articles similar to this one which complains on Apple products, I do not mean to condemn either, I do not use android, I use apple products myself, I am just not in favor of biased opinions which this article clearly is. Android over the past few years had made wonderful improvements and perfecting it in the recent days.
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You want to get into a battle of ludicrously unnecessary acronyms, this won't end well for you.
I don't want to battle anyone but I did not liked the way you treated my opinion, you do not know how to respond to someone's opinion without pushing their emotional buttons? If I found your response to be made in the right respectful way It would be unnecessary for me to use those unnecessary acronyms which was made necessary by you.
You get what you give to others.. This is what you gave me
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How many times, trolls; LEAD with this so we know to ignore your posts.
and you expect me to be polite to you? You better learn how to respond to people..
Still not clear. Maps as in APPLE MAPS, released with iOS 6, or Maps as in MAPS the application, in iPhone OS since the beginning?
…was buggy…
And again, whether you mean Apple Maps or Maps in general, you're wrong, insofar as you have stated the repercussions.
…and you know how they it went on to create a bad impression on Apple right?
No, because we're a year out from even the last time that could have happened and no one gives a frick about the lies spewed by competitors anymore. In the meantime, Apple Maps has grown to surpass Google's mapping in quite a few ways.
I think I made it pretty clear with my previous answer..
No, you didn't answer in the first place. You said nothing. You said "it's buggy". You didn't explain how, why, or in what capacity.
Yup you are right, itunes is clearly...
No. See, again, you have to actually give an example for anyone to give a crap about what you're pretending to say. Otherwise why would we listen to you? Answer that question, please.
May be read the article once again? That guy really seems to think that way.
Please link directly to the sentence where this is said. Please link directly to any sentence where it is even implied.
…I did not liked the way you treated my opinion…
Be able to back it up (or even explain it in the first place) and you certainly won't be attacked. Explain why you get to say anything you want without providing proof, please.
Like I said, the iPad mini lasted 10 hours with this "the worst possible battery life test" you mentioned. It's already "in regard" to Apple product. The test you linked who knows how long it will last? 20 hours maybe?
By the way, Walt Mossberg called the battery life of new Nexus 7 "LOUSY". I wonder what it means. Do you know?
So what did extensive battery testing of the new Nexus 7 with a smaller battery :err: and much higher res display than last years model reveal?
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The new Nexus 7 moves to a slightly smaller battery compared to its predecessor (15Wh vs. 16Wh). The result however is anything but a reduction in battery life. ASUS and Google worked hard to reduce platform power consumption as much as possible. I instrumented both Nexus 7s and measured total platform power, excluding display, to look at the impact of the silicon platform (SoC, PMIC, DRAM, eMMC, WiFi, etc...). The results are beyond impressive.
Idle power is cut in half compared to last year's model. This is by far the most important improvement as most mobile usage models tend to have long periods of idle time. We'll see these power gains reflected in our web browsing test which does have significant periods of simulated reading time between web page loads. The power reduction while running Kraken grows to just over 20%, and even while running Geekbench 3 we see a 16% drop with the new Nexus 7. Only our offscreen 3D test manages to draw more power on the new Nexus 7 than the old one, and that isn't taking into account the nearly 5x increase in performance on the new Nexus. In fact, as impressive as these numbers are - they are even more impressive when you take into account performance. To make a long story short, don't worry about the ~7% decrease in battery capacity as there are enough improvements in platform power and performance (and thus perf per watt) to more than make up for the smaller battery."
Web browsing life : 12.2 hr, about 25% better than iPad Mini (or iPad 4 for that matter)
Video playback: 11.5 hr, slightly better than iPad Mini
3D time. - just 4.0, far short of the Mini's 6+.
Full recharge in 3.5 hours.
So hardly the miserable battery performance that many here wanted to claim as fact and serving as evidence that a retina-quality display doesn't mean battery times have to suffer.
the correct way to measure is to actually measure the light - candlepower? - emitted by the screens and then set both tablets to the same level before running the battery test. a few tech sites do this, but i don't have a link.
We'll start out with our WiFi web browsing test. Like all of our battery life benchmarks we run this test with all devices calibrated to 200 nits and connected to 5GHz 802.11 WiFi (if supported). The test itself cycles through a bunch of desktop websites at a very aggressive frequency.
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Our video playback test involves looping the playback of a 4Mbps 720p High Profile H.264 transcode of the last Harry Potter Blu-ray. All displays are calibrated to 200 nits.
It is not uncommon that bugs come out with mass use. Even with Apple products. It should not take away from the fact it is a great product and it blows by the mini. This is from most all reviewers. And dont give me grief about being an Android fan. I have a IPad 4 and the 7. The 7 is without a doubt the best tablet I have used. I am sure this won't be popular on a Pro Apple site but from my perspective it is the truth.
It is not uncommon that bugs come out with mass use. Even with Apple products. It should not take away from the fact it is a great product and it blows by the mini. This is from most all reviewers. And dont give me grief about being an Android fan. I have a IPad 4 and the 7. The 7 is without a doubt the best tablet I have used. I am sure this won't be popular on a Pro Apple site but from my perspective it is the truth.
And from my perspective you're Troll! Why else would you come here to write this BS...
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Let me start from the first
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Were they Apple apps? Because this is talking about Google apps here. So that means built-in stuff that comes with the OS. If you're comparing third party apps on the iPad, you're not doing a proper comparison.
Maps app from Apple which was made by apple was buggy and you know how they it went on to create a bad impression on Apple right? if not I hope you see the world out of Apple insider with Biased posts like this..
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No, I was asking a question that you can't seem to answer, is all. At least back up your statement with an example of why it's crap or don't expect your "opinion" to be taken seriously.
I think I made it pretty clear with my previous answer..
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Utter nonsense.
Yup you are right, itunes is clearly...
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Show where anyone claimed that or stop with the strawmen.
May be read the article once again? That guy really seems to think that way.. Apple had many problems in its software and hardware as well and there are lots of articles similar to this one which complains on Apple products, I do not mean to condemn either, I do not use android, I use apple products myself, I am just not in favor of biased opinions which this article clearly is. Android over the past few years had made wonderful improvements and perfecting it in the recent days.
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You want to get into a battle of ludicrously unnecessary acronyms, this won't end well for you.
I don't want to battle anyone but I did not liked the way you treated my opinion, you do not know how to respond to someone's opinion without pushing their emotional buttons? If I found your response to be made in the right respectful way It would be unnecessary for me to use those unnecessary acronyms which was made necessary by you.
You get what you give to others.. This is what you gave me
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How many times, trolls; LEAD with this so we know to ignore your posts.
and you expect me to be polite to you? You better learn how to respond to people..
Originally Posted by Chakkravarthy
Maps app from Apple which was made by apple…
Still not clear. Maps as in APPLE MAPS, released with iOS 6, or Maps as in MAPS the application, in iPhone OS since the beginning?
…was buggy…
And again, whether you mean Apple Maps or Maps in general, you're wrong, insofar as you have stated the repercussions.
…and you know how they it went on to create a bad impression on Apple right?
No, because we're a year out from even the last time that could have happened and no one gives a frick about the lies spewed by competitors anymore. In the meantime, Apple Maps has grown to surpass Google's mapping in quite a few ways.
I think I made it pretty clear with my previous answer..
No, you didn't answer in the first place. You said nothing. You said "it's buggy". You didn't explain how, why, or in what capacity.
Yup you are right, itunes is clearly...
No. See, again, you have to actually give an example for anyone to give a crap about what you're pretending to say. Otherwise why would we listen to you? Answer that question, please.
May be read the article once again? That guy really seems to think that way.
Please link directly to the sentence where this is said. Please link directly to any sentence where it is even implied.
…I did not liked the way you treated my opinion…
Be able to back it up (or even explain it in the first place) and you certainly won't be attacked. Explain why you get to say anything you want without providing proof, please.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review
So what did extensive battery testing of the new Nexus 7 with a smaller battery :err: and much higher res display than last years model reveal?
Quote:
The new Nexus 7 moves to a slightly smaller battery compared to its predecessor (15Wh vs. 16Wh). The result however is anything but a reduction in battery life. ASUS and Google worked hard to reduce platform power consumption as much as possible. I instrumented both Nexus 7s and measured total platform power, excluding display, to look at the impact of the silicon platform (SoC, PMIC, DRAM, eMMC, WiFi, etc...). The results are beyond impressive.
Idle power is cut in half compared to last year's model. This is by far the most important improvement as most mobile usage models tend to have long periods of idle time. We'll see these power gains reflected in our web browsing test which does have significant periods of simulated reading time between web page loads. The power reduction while running Kraken grows to just over 20%, and even while running Geekbench 3 we see a 16% drop with the new Nexus 7. Only our offscreen 3D test manages to draw more power on the new Nexus 7 than the old one, and that isn't taking into account the nearly 5x increase in performance on the new Nexus. In fact, as impressive as these numbers are - they are even more impressive when you take into account performance. To make a long story short, don't worry about the ~7% decrease in battery capacity as there are enough improvements in platform power and performance (and thus perf per watt) to more than make up for the smaller battery."
Web browsing life : 12.2 hr, about 25% better than iPad Mini (or iPad 4 for that matter)
Video playback: 11.5 hr, slightly better than iPad Mini
3D time. - just 4.0, far short of the Mini's 6+.
Full recharge in 3.5 hours.
So hardly the miserable battery performance that many here wanted to claim as fact and serving as evidence that a retina-quality display doesn't mean battery times have to suffer.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
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Originally Posted by jungmark
It's a little fuzzy, but did they run the tests with the screen on? I see mentions of "off screen" testing and "excluding display".
Yes. From the review (http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2):
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We'll start out with our WiFi web browsing test. Like all of our battery life benchmarks we run this test with all devices calibrated to 200 nits and connected to 5GHz 802.11 WiFi (if supported). The test itself cycles through a bunch of desktop websites at a very aggressive frequency.
[...]
Our video playback test involves looping the playback of a 4Mbps 720p High Profile H.264 transcode of the last Harry Potter Blu-ray. All displays are calibrated to 200 nits.
[...]
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Originally Posted by idogwireless
It is not uncommon that bugs come out with mass use. Even with Apple products. It should not take away from the fact it is a great product and it blows by the mini. This is from most all reviewers. And dont give me grief about being an Android fan. I have a IPad 4 and the 7. The 7 is without a doubt the best tablet I have used. I am sure this won't be popular on a Pro Apple site but from my perspective it is the truth.
And from my perspective you're Troll! Why else would you come here to write this BS...