I just tried copying 20GB across the network to a Windows 8 machine, the only extra CPU my machine is using is the stupid virus software we use here, everything else if fine.
Nah, there is something wrong with TS setup (or setups). Not necessarily machines themselves but environment as well.
I'm handling licensing for the company I work for, and I also DL, copy and manage ISO files from MS web portal and locally, between my machine, server-side storage and USB HDDs. I also on occasion sort USB HDDs our engineers are taking onsite and use to copy VHD, backup images etc.
I've been doing that since Vista (I cannot recall if there were any issues with XP) and I never had any problems with any of PCs I've been using since.
Some of the ISO files are quite chubby:
And some of VHDs and backups are much chubbier:
And everything downloads, moves, copies without any interruption to my other daily tasks (Office, browsers, ConnectWise...). On average machine.
Of course, TS can continue blaming Windows for everything, or spend that energy in finding actual problem and make his Windows experience at least a bit more palatable. Because there is nothing wrong with Windows copy routines.
Also, I just have a couple drives left as FAT32 for r/w between OS X and other Windows machines I encounter. I can't futz around with OS X NTFS drivers right now, and it's just easier that way since not all Windows machines are running Apple's HFS+ read driver. On my Mac itself, I never copy to, only from. It's not really inconvenient; what's inconvenient is Windows locking up any time I copy anything.
Well maybe it would work better if you did fulz around. But if you prefer it this way, power to you.
I mean, the literal five plus minutes I have to leave it sit every single time it boots before it will reliably perform the commands I tell it to perform is one thing, since that has been the case with every version of Windows since 95, but something as simple as copying a file? Makes me feel as though Windows has never actually had OS multitasking.
So basically, looking into problem would save you a lot of 5-minute breaks. Are you smoker, by chance? Maybe you actually like those breaks
And don't get me started on how Windows 8 doesn't support the Radeon 4xxx series and boots to 640x480 every single time I start it.
Well, don't. Albeit first Radeon 4000 card, HD 4800 series, was released 5 years ago - on June 25, 2008, AMD could/should have supported that generation a bit longer. That being said, I know that driver included in Windows supports only WDDM 1.1 driver level features, but I haven't heard anywhere that it is THAT unstable. If it is, I'd take it to be AMD's responsibility, rather than Microsoft's.
Well maybe it would work better if you did fulz around. But if you prefer it this way, power to you.
All that would do is get me the ability to drag to my Windows partition from OS X. It solves nothing about how Windows can't copy a file.
So basically, looking into problem would save you a lot of 5-minute breaks.
Try reading the post. That's Windows starting up; not copying a file.
Well, don't. Albeit first Radeon 4000 card, HD 4800 series, was released 5 years ago - on June 25, 2008, AMD could/should have supported that generation a bit longer.
And somehow it's now my fault for buying a Mac Pro when I did? It's my fault that Apple's included driver doesn't work properly?
Of course, TS can continue blaming Windows for everything, or spend that energy in finding actual problem and make his Windows experience at least a bit more palatable. Because there is nothing wrong with Windows copy routines.
Given what we know of Microsoft's management structure I have no faith whatsoever in their ability to pick a successful replacement for Ballmer. I think it will be more failure from them, for the foreseeable future. They are a company that have selected "yes-men" in the management area; they would be more likely to find a visionary among the programmers than anywhere among the suits.
That would be Awesome! Microsoft Bob is like Forstall's skeuomorphic wet dream. He could bring back Bob, Clippy and that super cool animated doggy search companion. Just think how amazing Bob could be with 3D glasses! Like when you open the desk drawer to try to get the dog to find your document, the drawer could actually extend out of the computer monitor!
Wow. That would be poetic. Ballmer, wronged by the company he loves, gets even by giving Apple Microsoft's old secrets and lies. Heck, were he to give Apple the truth about all the evil Microsoft has done, I'd be okay with Apple hiring him to do… something non-critical to hardware or software. Since he's a businessman, maybe he could come under Tim Cook's wing, shadowing him for a few years.
I have an idea... Ballmer could help Apple deal with the DOJ
No, sorry. Three versions of Windows doing this across multiple computers tends to make me think otherwise.
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
The issue I have is I have experience copying large amounts of data on Windows machines, and I know what you are describing is not a common experience, so I would guess it is the result of one of three things, a poor machine, a poor operator, or a someone making up a story
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
The issue I have is I have experience copying large amounts of data on Windows machines, and I know what you are describing is not a common experience, so I would guess it is the result of one of three things, a poor machine, a poor operator, or a someone making up a story
But it's still a guess. Given a choice between Windows being insufficiently good and TS having bad memory, I'd guess on the former...
Let's start a guess club. We could even have merchandise, like I don't know, Guess belts, Guess tshirts...
But it's still a guess. Given a choice between Windows being insufficiently good and TS having bad memory, I'd guess on the former...
Let's start a guess club. We could even have merchandise, like I don't know, Guess belts, Guess tshirts...
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
I agree with most of things you said... except for one little thing.
Sitting in his comfy chair (and telling how iPad will bring everyone whole web), hasn't Steve Jobs opened a web page or two with big ugly holes where Flash animation was supposed to be?
Granted not as bad as tablet crashing on you, but still a mistake in planning and execution. But it's live event. These things happen. Even to Steve Jobs.
The question stands: was it planned, or not.
I wouldn't put it past Steve to actually wave the fact iPad shunned Flash in the face of Adobe...
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
Well, I haven't actually ran Windows 8 myself, I was "kind of" happy with Windows 7 on my mac though (hey, you gotta play those Windows games on a Windows).
What Microsoft needs is someone with a passion for 'user experience'. They started with someone with a passion for bits&bytes (and with many misses, let's not forget how much energy was spent on hopeless AI-like ventures and promises of cool stuff that was only vapour), Ballmer is a 'passion for money' type; user experience as just a way to make money. But it doesn't work purely like that. Most Microsoft's stuff isn't used for the experience, but because people have to. Maybe Xbox is the exception.
I mostly agree with you, but sadly "passion" never was within Microsoft DNA. I think SJ got the best overview of M$
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
Nope.
Originally Posted by jfanning
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
It happens daily; I'm bad, but I can remember daily.
""...One Microsoft" realignment that views the company's product lineup "holistically, not as a set of islands." Ballmer said that the new Microsoft structure will allow "a more coherent message and family of product offerings."
That would be Awesome! Microsoft Bob is like Forstall's skeuomorphic wet dream. He could bring back Bob, Clippy and that super cool animated doggy search companion. Just think how amazing Bob could be with 3D glasses! Like when you open the desk drawer to try to get the dog to find your document, the drawer could actually extend out of the computer monitor!
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Nah, there is something wrong with TS setup (or setups). Not necessarily machines themselves but environment as well.
I'm handling licensing for the company I work for, and I also DL, copy and manage ISO files from MS web portal and locally, between my machine, server-side storage and USB HDDs. I also on occasion sort USB HDDs our engineers are taking onsite and use to copy VHD, backup images etc.
I've been doing that since Vista (I cannot recall if there were any issues with XP) and I never had any problems with any of PCs I've been using since.
Some of the ISO files are quite chubby:
And some of VHDs and backups are much chubbier:
And everything downloads, moves, copies without any interruption to my other daily tasks (Office, browsers, ConnectWise...). On average machine.
Of course, TS can continue blaming Windows for everything, or spend that energy in finding actual problem and make his Windows experience at least a bit more palatable. Because there is nothing wrong with Windows copy routines.
Well maybe it would work better if you did fulz around. But if you prefer it this way, power to you.
So basically, looking into problem would save you a lot of 5-minute breaks. Are you smoker, by chance? Maybe you actually like those breaks
Well, don't. Albeit first Radeon 4000 card, HD 4800 series, was released 5 years ago - on June 25, 2008, AMD could/should have supported that generation a bit longer. That being said, I know that driver included in Windows supports only WDDM 1.1 driver level features, but I haven't heard anywhere that it is THAT unstable. If it is, I'd take it to be AMD's responsibility, rather than Microsoft's.
He can sit in la la land with his Zune and surface and be attended by the nurses.
Originally Posted by nikon133
Well maybe it would work better if you did fulz around. But if you prefer it this way, power to you.
All that would do is get me the ability to drag to my Windows partition from OS X. It solves nothing about how Windows can't copy a file.
So basically, looking into problem would save you a lot of 5-minute breaks.
Try reading the post. That's Windows starting up; not copying a file.
Well, don't. Albeit first Radeon 4000 card, HD 4800 series, was released 5 years ago - on June 25, 2008, AMD could/should have supported that generation a bit longer.
And somehow it's now my fault for buying a Mac Pro when I did? It's my fault that Apple's included driver doesn't work properly?
Same here, I do similar things and don't have an issue
Exactly...
Given what we know of Microsoft's management structure I have no faith whatsoever in their ability to pick a successful replacement for Ballmer. I think it will be more failure from them, for the foreseeable future. They are a company that have selected "yes-men" in the management area; they would be more likely to find a visionary among the programmers than anywhere among the suits.
Originally Posted by jfanning
Exactly...
No, sorry. Three versions of Windows doing this across multiple computers tends to make me think otherwise.
Balmer could use the extra time on his hands lining up for the iPhone 5S and one of the new Macbook Pros.
The Manchurian Candidate ?
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Originally Posted by Esteban
Scott Forstall, CEO Microsoft.
Discuss.
That would be Awesome! Microsoft Bob is like Forstall's skeuomorphic wet dream. He could bring back Bob, Clippy and that super cool animated doggy search companion. Just think how amazing Bob could be with 3D glasses! Like when you open the desk drawer to try to get the dog to find your document, the drawer could actually extend out of the computer monitor!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Wow. That would be poetic. Ballmer, wronged by the company he loves, gets even by giving Apple Microsoft's old secrets and lies. Heck, were he to give Apple the truth about all the evil Microsoft has done, I'd be okay with Apple hiring him to do… something non-critical to hardware or software. Since he's a businessman, maybe he could come under Tim Cook's wing, shadowing him for a few years.
I have an idea... Ballmer could help Apple deal with the DOJ
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
The issue I have is I have experience copying large amounts of data on Windows machines, and I know what you are describing is not a common experience, so I would guess it is the result of one of three things, a poor machine, a poor operator, or a someone making up a story
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfanning
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
The issue I have is I have experience copying large amounts of data on Windows machines, and I know what you are describing is not a common experience, so I would guess it is the result of one of three things, a poor machine, a poor operator, or a someone making up a story
But it's still a guess. Given a choice between Windows being insufficiently good and TS having bad memory, I'd guess on the former...
Let's start a guess club. We could even have merchandise, like I don't know, Guess belts, Guess tshirts...
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
I agree with most of things you said... except for one little thing.
Sitting in his comfy chair (and telling how iPad will bring everyone whole web), hasn't Steve Jobs opened a web page or two with big ugly holes where Flash animation was supposed to be?
Granted not as bad as tablet crashing on you, but still a mistake in planning and execution. But it's live event. These things happen. Even to Steve Jobs.
The question stands: was it planned, or not.
I wouldn't put it past Steve to actually wave the fact iPad shunned Flash in the face of Adobe...
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfanning
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
Well, I haven't actually ran Windows 8 myself, I was "kind of" happy with Windows 7 on my mac though (hey, you gotta play those Windows games on a Windows).
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Originally Posted by gctwnl
What Microsoft needs is someone with a passion for 'user experience'. They started with someone with a passion for bits&bytes (and with many misses, let's not forget how much energy was spent on hopeless AI-like ventures and promises of cool stuff that was only vapour), Ballmer is a 'passion for money' type; user experience as just a way to make money. But it doesn't work purely like that. Most Microsoft's stuff isn't used for the experience, but because people have to. Maybe Xbox is the exception.
I mostly agree with you, but sadly "passion" never was within Microsoft DNA. I think SJ got the best overview of M$
Originally Posted by jfanning
Multiple computers now? Different story than before...
Nope.
Originally Posted by jfanning
If we were talking about Windows ME, or Windows 98, I might be able to agree, but this is 2013, Windows 7, and Windows 8 perform fine, so I will have to go with him having a bad memory.
It happens daily; I'm bad, but I can remember daily.
You mean like Apple, you buffoon?
LOL. Looks like a point and click adventure game from the CD-ROM days.
I believe that dog is one of the Microsoft Office assistants...