I still would like to know what constitutes an "activation". It seems to me that a device can be reactivated multiple times. I have a lot of friends that have had to take their crappy Android phone back to the store and get a replacement. Each one of those is an activation, but all that means is that a device was activated onto a network. Those devices could (and probably are) sitting in a freaking landfill or drawer somewhere and not being used. It's a useless metric. It sounds great, but has no bearing on the health of the ecosystem. What types of Android devices. ANY. That's another problem. That means that any craptastic piece of crap that anyone could possible sell with a bit of Android code on it counts as an activation then?
I'm just saying it's a bullshit number.
You are incorrect in thinking that a device can be activated multiple times. It's one activation per physical device. In the event of your "lots of friends" who have recieved replacement phones, those would count as additional activations.
You are incorrect in thinking that an activation means a device was activated onto a network. Activating on a network is not what Google counts. Google counts when a new physical device connects to their services.
You are incorrect in thinking that any "craptastic piece of crap that anyone could possible sell with a bit of Android code on it counts as an activation." As stated above, Google can only count what they know about (connecting to Google's services). The Kindle Fire, for example, is a forked version of Android and doesn't count towards Google's activation numbers. The only way they'd be able to count those is if Amazon shared their numbers with Google, which is possible, but just because something uses some Android code doesn't mean it automatically counts.
As a very satisfied repeat customer of Android products, I account for three of those activations as I've had three different Android devices (never had to get a replacement for any of them). That may help you to support your argument for it being a "bullshit number" as your current reasoning isn't very good.
Why would anyone use the trademark Kit Kat? It was an English anti-Catholic / anti French / pro Monarchist political organisation with it's roots in the 18th century.
Wow! An absolutely glowing article about how Android rules the world. And on a so-called Apple centric web site too. Well, that's it I guess. Time for Apple to just pack it in. They lost again. I guess my next phone will run Android seeing that AppleInsider now recommends it.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
However, most of those activation are in a landfill these days. It like FORD or GM saying that have a Billion cars on the road just because they is how many cars they shipped.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
how true, the fanboys will be all jump up and down about the new version even though it might not run on their phone, but they will be all giggly about it.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.</p>
I didn't understand how Google was addressing "fragmentation" until the past few days. It now looks as tho the specific version of Android isn't nearly as important as it once was. They've come up with really a brilliant way of making sure the latest OS features & improvements are available to 98% of current users while still allowing the OEM's to customize the shell or 3rd parties to "fork" the OS for specific uses.
How is that possible? Google Play Services. Read up on it if you're curious.
1B activations! Wow that's impressive. I prefer Android than my Iphone. Day and night in speed screen estate. My Iphone 5 can't compete with my nexus 4 quad core 2 gigs of ram. Plus I find it is really smart to use KitKat as a name. My next tablet will be also an android LG G tablet. I also prefer the look of Jelly bean over iOS 7. I would love if Apple could make a 4.7 Iphone quad or octa core. Maybe iPhone 6 let's hope.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
I didn't understand how Google was addressing "fragmentation" until the past few days. It now looks as tho the specific version of Android isn't nearly as important as it once was. They've come up with really a brilliant way of making sure the latest OS features & improvements are available to 98% of current users while still allowing the OEM's to customize the shell or 3rd parties to "fork" the OS for specific uses.
How is that possible? Google Play Services. Read up on it if you're curious.
It's very simple, actually.
Basically android development stopped with jelly bean 4.1. Other versions bring nothing.
I do not blame them. Maybe they are focussing on bug fixing and bringing everyone to 4.x?
That's a problem they choosed to have by allowing OEMs to use android.
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So Google are now in bed with Nestle? Are they still claiming not to be evil?
Or did they do this just to mess with everyone who was convinced it was going to be Key Lime Pie?
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I still would like to know what constitutes an "activation". It seems to me that a device can be reactivated multiple times. I have a lot of friends that have had to take their crappy Android phone back to the store and get a replacement. Each one of those is an activation, but all that means is that a device was activated onto a network. Those devices could (and probably are) sitting in a freaking landfill or drawer somewhere and not being used. It's a useless metric. It sounds great, but has no bearing on the health of the ecosystem. What types of Android devices. ANY. That's another problem. That means that any craptastic piece of crap that anyone could possible sell with a bit of Android code on it counts as an activation then?
I'm just saying it's a bullshit number.
You are incorrect in thinking that a device can be activated multiple times. It's one activation per physical device. In the event of your "lots of friends" who have recieved replacement phones, those would count as additional activations.
You are incorrect in thinking that an activation means a device was activated onto a network. Activating on a network is not what Google counts. Google counts when a new physical device connects to their services.
You are incorrect in thinking that any "craptastic piece of crap that anyone could possible sell with a bit of Android code on it counts as an activation." As stated above, Google can only count what they know about (connecting to Google's services). The Kindle Fire, for example, is a forked version of Android and doesn't count towards Google's activation numbers. The only way they'd be able to count those is if Amazon shared their numbers with Google, which is possible, but just because something uses some Android code doesn't mean it automatically counts.
As a very satisfied repeat customer of Android products, I account for three of those activations as I've had three different Android devices (never had to get a replacement for any of them). That may help you to support your argument for it being a "bullshit number" as your current reasoning isn't very good.
Google is now a chocolate candy bar.
iOS 7 and iPhone 5c look like Candy Crush meets Skittles.
Is candy the new cool motif for tech?
Next up, Android Crack. We'll take you on high's you've never thought possible**.
**warning, Android is not responsible for the ultimate crash you will experience once your new high wears off
Why would anyone use the trademark Kit Kat? It was an English anti-Catholic / anti French / pro Monarchist political organisation with it's roots in the 18th century.
Wow! An absolutely glowing article about how Android rules the world. And on a so-called Apple centric web site too. Well, that's it I guess. Time for Apple to just pack it in. They lost again. I guess my next phone will run Android seeing that AppleInsider now recommends it.
I definitely heard some snickers.
They'd have taken it anyway and then bought a cocoa bean supplier to use against them when it went to court.
For F*** sake! I used to love Kitkat ... until today! DAMN!
Here comes KitKat Ads all over next Android dumbphones!
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
First thing I thought of:
why doesn't any Android partners release audited phone sales numbers each Quarter like Apple? Why hide? Because the numbers are BS thats why.
If I change to another rom, does it counts as an activation?
However, most of those activation are in a landfill these days. It like FORD or GM saying that have a Billion cars on the road just because they is how many cars they shipped.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
how true, the fanboys will be all jump up and down about the new version even though it might not run on their phone, but they will be all giggly about it.
I didn't understand how Google was addressing "fragmentation" until the past few days. It now looks as tho the specific version of Android isn't nearly as important as it once was. They've come up with really a brilliant way of making sure the latest OS features & improvements are available to 98% of current users while still allowing the OEM's to customize the shell or 3rd parties to "fork" the OS for specific uses.
How is that possible? Google Play Services. Read up on it if you're curious.
The newest Android OS Kit Kat will only serve to further fragment the mess that is called Android, and the majority of devices sold will probably not even include the newest OS, and many older devices and even many current devices will probably never ever get it. Fandroids are suckers.
I didn't understand how Google was addressing "fragmentation" until the past few days. It now looks as tho the specific version of Android isn't nearly as important as it once was. They've come up with really a brilliant way of making sure the latest OS features & improvements are available to 98% of current users while still allowing the OEM's to customize the shell or 3rd parties to "fork" the OS for specific uses.
How is that possible? Google Play Services. Read up on it if you're curious.
It's very simple, actually.
Basically android development stopped with jelly bean 4.1. Other versions bring nothing.
I do not blame them. Maybe they are focussing on bug fixing and bringing everyone to 4.x?
That's a problem they choosed to have by allowing OEMs to use android.