I don't know why people are questioning 1 billion activations - it's totally believable. Apple has 600 million iOS devices, and that's from only a single company. And Apple has never stooped to the low end like so many Android vendors have.
The real issue is how come there are so many Android devices yet the App Store generates more revenue than Google Play does, iTunes generates far more (6X) revenue for digital content and iOS devices comprise more of mobile internet traffic. How embarrassing for Google to have so many users yet they just can't seem to monetize them.
As to Google Play Services - everyone is missing the point. Yes Google is going to deal with fragmentation by moving more of Android into Services. At the same time they are locking down Android and making it like iOS (a closed-source, walled garden). Google Play Services ARE NOT open source and are 100% locked down by Google. So the more Google moves to Services to reduce fragmentation the more closed Android gets.
This also makes it useless for companies like Amazon to fork. If Android is nothing but a bare-bones OS where all the functionality is in Services, then what's the point of someone like Amazon using it for anything?
This is something all the haters/Android shills are not talking about, either because they aren't yet aware that's what's happening or they don't want to talk about Google going closed-source when they've been bragging about Android being open-source for years now.
This thread is truly the zenith of pointlessness. Don't you lot have anything better to do all day than whine about Google on the internet?
I thought this was supposed to be an Apple news site rather than the home of the Google hate mob?
Your comment is the pinnacle of pointlessness, served up with an added dash of extreme ignorance.
If you had read the full article and seen the video, then you would have been aware that this topic is directly related to Apple, since they chose to parody/attack Apple in the video.
If somebody's going to dish it out, then they had damn well better be prepared to take it too.
1B activations! Wow that's impressive. I prefer Android than my Iphone. Day and night in speed screen estate. My Iphone 5 can't compete with my nexus 4 quad core 2 gigs of ram. Plus I find it is really smart to use KitKat as a name. My next tablet will be also an android LG G tablet. I also prefer the look of Jelly bean over iOS 7. I would love if Apple could make a 4.7 Iphone quad or octa core. Maybe iPhone 6 let's hope.
This can't be a post from a real person. It's not that they are commenting about how great Android is in an Apple forum but the way they hit every marketing point that is supposed to make Apple customers think ,"Hmmm, I wonder if there's anything to this big screen and quad core processor that I'm missing."
If you're not getting paid for is drivel ad, you're dumber than your ad copy.
The problem is that Android devices have an incredibly short lifespan, especially when compared to Apple devices. Many Android devices from 2013 are probably already obsolete. I'm constantly reading about certain Android phones which will not be getting OS updates that they were supposed to get or promised to get.
How many of those supposed one billion Android activations are actually still in use? What is the true figure of actual Android phones out there still in use? I'd wager that that figure is significantly lower than 1 billion, assuming that the 1 billion figure is true and accurate to begin with.
What's the point in bragging about activations? I'd like to know the number of dead, the Android phones that are already in a land fill. When you look up the population of a country, the answer doesn't include the number of dead people, because the dead don't count.
Evidence suggests that the death rate in Androidville is far greater than for Apple iOS devices. Android devices are dying like flies, and I don't see many people wanting to own or use an Android device that's even slightly old. Meanwhile in Apple land, plenty of people are still using older iPhones, iPads and iPod Touches, with many of them having been updated to the latest OS with the devices running as smoothly as ever.
I'm not impressed by one billion activations, especially when a great deal of those activations are comprised of people getting some junky Android phone for free or very little money, usually to go along with some super cheap cell plan. Quantity is not a substitute for quality. And obsolete, dead devices don't impress me either.
You're gonna be shocked by this, but I agree with most of what you wrote. There is no reason at all to be impressed by a billion activations. At this point it's obvious that Android is here to stay and that it's on a whole lot of devices. As for obsolescence of Android devices, I would say that is true except for the Nexus line and the flagships for each manufacturer. If someone, God forbid, decides to buy a Galaxy Fame, then they are using a device that would have been considered obsolete in 2011. I'm not worried about that person. I don't buy junk, but it's none of my business if someone else does.
Just as google strives for full domination w.r.t. All your data, nestle pretty much wants the same relative to your nutrition. Their products have little in common with food, all lab engineered stuff without any nutritious value other than sugar and fat. Its basically junk. They try to imprint preferences for their artificial "food" into young people so they stick with them later. From a manufacturer standpoint they have enormous leverage and you are welcomed to google where and under what conditions they get their ingredients from.
The more I write the better I feel these two make a match...
Edit: a Good starting point for reading is the documentary "bottled life" that shows how through something as simple yet mandatory as water this company is ruthlessly exploiting resources and deliberately trying to strive for dominating as the worlds number one source of drinking water.
It's a parody of the "design description" videos featuring Jony Ive that Apple puts out. Kind of a dig at it, really, and yet, like everyone else (Samsung?), they are seeking to derive some benefit by copying (or perhaps mocking in this case) Apple's style.
Pretty bad though. And by the way? Post-Pocket KitKat is just so not edible.
Yeah, "co-branding" as it's often referred to, is typically a non-compensated 'strategic marketing partnership' type of arrangement. They both derive some benefit, preferably as equally as possible, and mitigate whatever costs by sharing them. The "contest" helps to sell KitKats to people hoping to win a free Android device, and Google gets more awareness build. The more "everyday and ubiquitous" Android become to the general perception, the more entrenched they become.
I see KitKat is out with an Apple Jony Ive parody video. Apple execs must just laugh their asses off when they see these. Most of the time these parodies are worse than what they're making fun of. Also more and more tech companies are doing these kinds of videos (and usually with some bald guy or someone with an English accent), so really they're not just making fun of Apple but making fun of everyone who rips off Apple. And once again we see the focus on Apple even though everyone claims Apple is doomed, no longer hip and cool, etc. Why would anyone waste their time on a company that was supposedly doomed?
I have to say that the video does remind me of Jony Ive's way of talking and presenting a product. Which I believe is kind of embarrassing for them.
I'm sure they would call it a parody, but one could argue parody is a form of flattery. Lets face it, Ive's videos work which is why Apple keeps doing them. Go on twitter after a product announcement and you'll see tweets about how Ive could sell someone dirty socks and they'd buy them. Or women (and men) swooning over his English accent.
I like the name KitKat better than Key Lime Pie. It also looks like 4.4 will try to fix fragmentation even more since it says this on there site: "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
I feel like Android has caught up with iOS and surpassed it in many areas. It isn't that crappy OS that so many iSheep say it is. It's advanced and easier to use IMO. iOS7 has improved iOS quite a bit. One thing iOS has over Android is smoothness. It's just that much smoother. Though I do notice stutters from time to time on my iPad 3 running iOS7 beta 6. Probably because it's not the latest hardware. Before all you sheep freak out this is all my opinion.
About that video. It's just Google/KitKat having fun. Everyone makes parodies about Ive's videos. No need to get buthurt and defensive about it just because Google does it.
Actually, in Germany we have a word called "fremdschämen" which basically means you're embarrassed on behalf of some else's behavior. Like in this case.
"fremdschämen", I like it, a bit like a step brother to 'schadenfreude', you have to hand it to Germans, who else but them could have a name for these concepts. My all time favourite though is the german word for 'tank'... die shutzgrabenvernichtungspanzerkraftwagen, it's easy to see why 'tank' caught on.
I like the name KitKat better than Key Lime Pie. It also looks like 4.4 will try to fix fragmentation even more since it says this on there site: "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
I feel like Android has caught up with iOS and surpassed it in many areas. It isn't that crappy OS that so many iSheep say it is. It's advanced and easier to use IMO. iOS7 has improved iOS quite a bit. One thing iOS has over Android is smoothness. It's just that much smoother. Though I do notice stutters from time to time on my iPad 3 running iOS7 beta 6. Probably because it's not the latest hardware. Before all you sheep freak out this is all my opinion.
About that video. It's just Google/KitKat having fun. Everyone makes parodies about Ive's videos. No need to get buthurt and defensive about it just because Google does it.
Really, though? Poking fun at Jony Ive. That's just weak. Jony's the man, and they're clearly jealous that Apple's designs are more refined than anything in the Android ecosystem.
I was just going to say the exact same thing. Well said.
"fremdschämen", I like it, a bit like a step brother to 'schadenfreude', you have to hand it to Germans, who else but them could have a name for these concepts. My all time favourite though is the german word for 'tank'... die shutzgrabenvernichtungspanzerkraftwagen, it's easy to see why 'tank' caught on.
Or just Panzer...or Kampfpanzer.
Panzerkampfwagen is long enough and out of use...probably because of WWII connotations. So no more Wehrmacht and now Bundeswehr.
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It's been my experience that no matter what the topic is, there is often a single German word to describe it.
That's because you can slam 10 words together in German to make a single word.
Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän anyone? How about Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz?
I don't know why people are questioning 1 billion activations - it's totally believable. Apple has 600 million iOS devices, and that's from only a single company. And Apple has never stooped to the low end like so many Android vendors have.
The real issue is how come there are so many Android devices yet the App Store generates more revenue than Google Play does, iTunes generates far more (6X) revenue for digital content and iOS devices comprise more of mobile internet traffic. How embarrassing for Google to have so many users yet they just can't seem to monetize them.
As to Google Play Services - everyone is missing the point. Yes Google is going to deal with fragmentation by moving more of Android into Services. At the same time they are locking down Android and making it like iOS (a closed-source, walled garden). Google Play Services ARE NOT open source and are 100% locked down by Google. So the more Google moves to Services to reduce fragmentation the more closed Android gets.
This also makes it useless for companies like Amazon to fork. If Android is nothing but a bare-bones OS where all the functionality is in Services, then what's the point of someone like Amazon using it for anything?
This is something all the haters/Android shills are not talking about, either because they aren't yet aware that's what's happening or they don't want to talk about Google going closed-source when they've been bragging about Android being open-source for years now.
That's one of the best things about the German language.
This thread is truly the zenith of pointlessness. Don't you lot have anything better to do all day than whine about Google on the internet?
I thought this was supposed to be an Apple news site rather than the home of the Google hate mob?
Your comment is the pinnacle of pointlessness, served up with an added dash of extreme ignorance.
If you had read the full article and seen the video, then you would have been aware that this topic is directly related to Apple, since they chose to parody/attack Apple in the video.
If somebody's going to dish it out, then they had damn well better be prepared to take it too.
If you're not getting paid for is drivel ad, you're dumber than your ad copy.
The problem is that Android devices have an incredibly short lifespan, especially when compared to Apple devices. Many Android devices from 2013 are probably already obsolete. I'm constantly reading about certain Android phones which will not be getting OS updates that they were supposed to get or promised to get.
How many of those supposed one billion Android activations are actually still in use? What is the true figure of actual Android phones out there still in use? I'd wager that that figure is significantly lower than 1 billion, assuming that the 1 billion figure is true and accurate to begin with.
What's the point in bragging about activations? I'd like to know the number of dead, the Android phones that are already in a land fill. When you look up the population of a country, the answer doesn't include the number of dead people, because the dead don't count.
Evidence suggests that the death rate in Androidville is far greater than for Apple iOS devices. Android devices are dying like flies, and I don't see many people wanting to own or use an Android device that's even slightly old. Meanwhile in Apple land, plenty of people are still using older iPhones, iPads and iPod Touches, with many of them having been updated to the latest OS with the devices running as smoothly as ever.
I'm not impressed by one billion activations, especially when a great deal of those activations are comprised of people getting some junky Android phone for free or very little money, usually to go along with some super cheap cell plan. Quantity is not a substitute for quality. And obsolete, dead devices don't impress me either.
You're gonna be shocked by this, but I agree with most of what you wrote. There is no reason at all to be impressed by a billion activations. At this point it's obvious that Android is here to stay and that it's on a whole lot of devices. As for obsolescence of Android devices, I would say that is true except for the Nexus line and the flagships for each manufacturer. If someone, God forbid, decides to buy a Galaxy Fame, then they are using a device that would have been considered obsolete in 2011. I'm not worried about that person. I don't buy junk, but it's none of my business if someone else does.FAIL!!
Are you seriously asking this?
Just as google strives for full domination w.r.t. All your data, nestle pretty much wants the same relative to your nutrition. Their products have little in common with food, all lab engineered stuff without any nutritious value other than sugar and fat. Its basically junk. They try to imprint preferences for their artificial "food" into young people so they stick with them later. From a manufacturer standpoint they have enormous leverage and you are welcomed to google where and under what conditions they get their ingredients from.
The more I write the better I feel these two make a match...
Edit: a Good starting point for reading is the documentary "bottled life" that shows how through something as simple yet mandatory as water this company is ruthlessly exploiting resources and deliberately trying to strive for dominating as the worlds number one source of drinking water.
Pretty bad though. And by the way? Post-Pocket KitKat is just so not edible.
Zero $ apparently.
"This is not a money-changing-hands kind of deal," John Lagerling, director of Android global partnerships, told the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23926938
Yeah, "co-branding" as it's often referred to, is typically a non-compensated 'strategic marketing partnership' type of arrangement. They both derive some benefit, preferably as equally as possible, and mitigate whatever costs by sharing them. The "contest" helps to sell KitKats to people hoping to win a free Android device, and Google gets more awareness build. The more "everyday and ubiquitous" Android become to the general perception, the more entrenched they become.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4690744/kit-kat-mocks-apple-with-android-parody-video
I like the name KitKat better than Key Lime Pie. It also looks like 4.4 will try to fix fragmentation even more since it says this on there site: "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
I feel like Android has caught up with iOS and surpassed it in many areas. It isn't that crappy OS that so many iSheep say it is. It's advanced and easier to use IMO. iOS7 has improved iOS quite a bit. One thing iOS has over Android is smoothness. It's just that much smoother. Though I do notice stutters from time to time on my iPad 3 running iOS7 beta 6. Probably because it's not the latest hardware. Before all you sheep freak out this is all my opinion.
About that video. It's just Google/KitKat having fun. Everyone makes parodies about Ive's videos. No need to get buthurt and defensive about it just because Google does it.
**Waits for iSheep to start flaming me**
This is....embarrassing.
Actually, in Germany we have a word called "fremdschämen" which basically means you're embarrassed on behalf of some else's behavior. Like in this case.
"fremdschämen", I like it, a bit like a step brother to 'schadenfreude', you have to hand it to Germans, who else but them could have a name for these concepts. My all time favourite though is the german word for 'tank'... die shutzgrabenvernichtungspanzerkraftwagen, it's easy to see why 'tank' caught on.
I like the name KitKat better than Key Lime Pie. It also looks like 4.4 will try to fix fragmentation even more since it says this on there site: "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
I feel like Android has caught up with iOS and surpassed it in many areas. It isn't that crappy OS that so many iSheep say it is. It's advanced and easier to use IMO. iOS7 has improved iOS quite a bit. One thing iOS has over Android is smoothness. It's just that much smoother. Though I do notice stutters from time to time on my iPad 3 running iOS7 beta 6. Probably because it's not the latest hardware. Before all you sheep freak out this is all my opinion.
About that video. It's just Google/KitKat having fun. Everyone makes parodies about Ive's videos. No need to get buthurt and defensive about it just because Google does it.
**Waits for iSheep to start flaming me**
Baaaaaaaaaaaaa...
I'm happy with whichever choice you make. Sorry.
ROTFLMAO.
Oh, wait. You were serious? That's just plain sad.
I was just going to say the exact same thing. Well said.
**Waits for iSheep to start flaming me**
Shut up and go away, you worthless idiot.
Or just Panzer...or Kampfpanzer.
Panzerkampfwagen is long enough and out of use...probably because of WWII connotations. So no more Wehrmacht and now Bundeswehr.