Apple TV is old. Apple Television should be out already. But no it wont. By the time they release it it will be old news. If Steve was around it would have already been released.
Apple TV is old. Apple Television should be out already. But no it wont. By the time they release it it will be old news. If Steve was around it would have already been released.
Not to mention that you'd need to actually have a 4k capable TV to watch it on. Which you don't.
And not to mention a 4K movie download would run to 100 GB.
Here in Europe a lot of TV content is delivered via satellites. One of the huge drawbacks with 3D content was it doubled bandwidth requirements and was impractical for delivery via satellite due to lack of spare capacity. 4K via satellite? That is not going to happen unless Apple wants to spend some of it's moola and park 4 geostationary data hoses in the sky.
And not to mention a 4K movie download would run to 100 GB.
Here in Europe a lot of TV content is delivered via satellites. One of the huge drawbacks with 3D content was it doubled bandwidth requirements and was impractical for delivery via satellite due to lack of spare capacity. 4K via satellite? That is not going to happen unless Apple wants to spend some of it's moola and park 4 geostationary data hoses in the sky.
Who says this new AppleTV would be sold in Ireland? Or country other than the US?
That being said, while I think a 4k AppleTV would be cool, there's very little to no content, most consumers don't have 4k televisions, and most cannot afford them at this point although they are on the market for purchase in the US.
If it has 802.11ac and an A6 processor in it then we should see full iOS on it. Would definitely buy one.
This would be cool, and worth upgrading to, especially if it also includes the App store with some good way to interact with it other than a point and click remote.
%u201CSet Top Box with Communication Function" on Aug. 11, %u201CSet Top Boxes%u201D on Aug. 18, and %u201CSet Top Box with Communication Function%u201D on Aug. 25.
Do I detect two different models, one with "communication function"?
Recent bill of lading information from the U.S. Department of Homeland security shows Apple recently took three shipments of a "Set Top Boxes" from a known partner supplier in China, suggesting the company may be planning to unveil a new Apple TV at a special event on Sept. 10. .
Or maybe they're just restocking their stores with the existing model.
There's nothing in the DHS documentation that would distinguish between those options.
Who says this new AppleTV would be sold in Ireland? Or country other than the US?
That being said, while I think a 4k AppleTV would be cool, there's very little to no content, most consumers don't have 4k televisions, and most cannot afford them at this point although they are on the market for purchase in the US.
What major products does Apple sell that are US only? A bit over 300 M people in the us and around 500 M in the EU. I believe Apple derives more income from overseas than domestically.
What major products does Apple sell that are US only? A bit over 300 M people in the us and around 500 M in the EU. I believe Apple derives more income from overseas than domestically.
4K is the next 3D
Actually, 4K will exceed 3D.
3D will never become the standard - there are too many people who either get no benefit or actually find 3D to interfere with watching TV. It will be a large niche, but a niche, nonetheless.
4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
Think of it this way- look at the technology progressions in the past years
B/W TV to Color
Color TV to flat screen
flat screen to HDTV
Similarly,
VHS to DVD
DVD to BluRay
In every case, the improvement was apparent even to someone who doesn't consider themselves to be a videophile (although DVD to BR was not quite as obvious as the rest). Now, moving to 4K will improve things, but the gains will be fairly modest compared to the above gains. Therefore, it will be limited to high end customers for some time.
A USB port that can be used for an external drive.
Hmm. I dunno. This doesn't seem like anything Apple would do. I'd really just prefer Network Attached iTunes Libraries. Plug a hard drive formatted as an iTunes Library into your AirPort Extreme and then all the Apple TVs (and computers) in the house can pull content from said library.
The ability to run iOS apps.
The ability to support PLEX.
And these will obviously never happen. Why the frick would Apple ever support Plex?
Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
If it has 802.11ac and an A6 processor in it then we should see full iOS on it.
How does that make sense? Why would we want that?
Originally Posted by tylerk36
Apple TV is old. Apple Television should be out already. But no it wont. By the time they release it it will be old news. If Steve was around it would have already been released.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
3D will never become the standard - there are too many people who either get no benefit or actually find 3D to interfere with watching TV. It will be a large niche, but a niche, nonetheless.
4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
In every case, the improvement was apparent even to someone who doesn't consider themselves to be a videophile (although DVD to BR was not quite as obvious as the rest).
Blu-Ray is awful. At least with DVDs you could pop in a disc and watch.
Blu-Ray you put the disc in and wait for it to load ... Unless wait. You need to download a firmware update first ... Provided one is even available ... And even if there is one, now some older discs won't play and the new one still might not work.
True the picture and sound are gorgeous... But the hassle isn't.
Downloading 1080p/720p content is good enough (for me at least).
Been planning on getting an Apple TV soon (I don't have cable nor satellite dish, just Netflix and DVDs for TV viewing). A new version of the Apple TV would be perfect!
3D will never become the standard - there are too many people who either get no benefit or actually find 3D to interfere with watching TV. It will be a large niche, but a niche, nonetheless.
4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
Think of it this way- look at the technology progressions in the past years
B/W TV to Color
Color TV to flat screen
flat screen to HDTV
Similarly,
VHS to DVD
DVD to BluRay
In every case, the improvement was apparent even to someone who doesn't consider themselves to be a videophile (although DVD to BR was not quite as obvious as the rest). Now, moving to 4K will improve things, but the gains will be fairly modest compared to the above gains. Therefore, it will be limited to high end customers for some time.
Have you seen the Hobbit movie? Have you watched an HD News Broadcast? Honestly, the only real benefit you will get from anything 4K will be for sports. everything else...HD had made it worse IMO. When you can see the piss-poor make-up jobs on anything higher than 1080p (since Movies in iMax and greater than 24fps look terrible IMO) there's really no great benefit to seeing something in 4k. Not to mention even restores of old movies from negatives won't even come close to 4k res. To me, 4k is pointless. Who cares. All this 4k and 60fps crap isn't improving anything but the profit margins of the content owners. Do you really want to re-purchase all your movies all over again in the next 2-5 years? Really? I haven't even re-purchased 10% of my DVD collection onto blu-ray or iTunes or digital because of the cost involved and the lack of special features and commentaries on the digital versions. The home media industry doesn't know what the hell they're doing, other than milking any format that can for all it's worth, and in shorter cycles than ever before. Screw big media, screw content owners. I'm loving the subscription method, and it's way cheaper. Thank you Netflix and Hulu.
Blu-Ray is awful. At least with DVDs you could pop in a disc and watch.
Blu-Ray you put the disc in and wait for it to load ... Unless wait. You need to download a firmware update first ... Provided one is even available ... And even if there is one, now some older discs won't play and the new one still might not work.
True the picture and sound are gorgeous... But the hassle isn't.
Downloading 1080p/720p content is good enough (for me at least).
I'm a big fan of Blu rays. The restorations are remarkable on some Blu-Rays that are exclusive to them. And of course, the sound is brilliant and there is no equal.
But I'm with you- the loading is God awful and with the exception of Disney, you have to watch a half dozen commercials so I have to skip skip skip skip. It sucks.
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Apple TV with 4K support?
Long shot. It 4K movies on iTunes would be a killer app, though.
Would love to see 802.11ac support in the new Apple TV.
You most likely will see 802.11ac support in the new AppleTV along with the iMac and MacPro machines.
You may also see a CPU and graphics chips set upgrade. Perhaps support for the new 4K TVs.
Not to mention the new iOS 7
Apple TV is old. Apple Television should be out already. But no it wont. By the time they release it it will be old news. If Steve was around it would have already been released.
Really? 4K support? Where is the 4K content? Oh, I know. It's about 2 years away...
Precisely. Even if there was content, we'd need not just better codecs but better encoders and decoders for it, particularly for downloadable media.
Apple TV is old. Apple Television should be out already. But no it wont. By the time they release it it will be old news. If Steve was around it would have already been released.
Thanks for the laugh!
Not to mention that you'd need to actually have a 4k capable TV to watch it on. Which you don't.
And not to mention a 4K movie download would run to 100 GB.
Here in Europe a lot of TV content is delivered via satellites. One of the huge drawbacks with 3D content was it doubled bandwidth requirements and was impractical for delivery via satellite due to lack of spare capacity. 4K via satellite? That is not going to happen unless Apple wants to spend some of it's moola and park 4 geostationary data hoses in the sky.
Couldn't it just be a refreshed airport base station / time capsule?
This was just updated 2 months ago...why would they update them again?
And not to mention a 4K movie download would run to 100 GB.
Here in Europe a lot of TV content is delivered via satellites. One of the huge drawbacks with 3D content was it doubled bandwidth requirements and was impractical for delivery via satellite due to lack of spare capacity. 4K via satellite? That is not going to happen unless Apple wants to spend some of it's moola and park 4 geostationary data hoses in the sky.
Who says this new AppleTV would be sold in Ireland? Or country other than the US?
That being said, while I think a 4k AppleTV would be cool, there's very little to no content, most consumers don't have 4k televisions, and most cannot afford them at this point although they are on the market for purchase in the US.
If it has 802.11ac and an A6 processor in it then we should see full iOS on it. Would definitely buy one.
This would be cool, and worth upgrading to, especially if it also includes the App store with some good way to interact with it other than a point and click remote.
I'm most interested in games and apps.
Do I detect two different models, one with "communication function"?
Apple TV with FaceTime perhaps?
Or maybe they're just restocking their stores with the existing model.
There's nothing in the DHS documentation that would distinguish between those options.
Who says this new AppleTV would be sold in Ireland? Or country other than the US?
That being said, while I think a 4k AppleTV would be cool, there's very little to no content, most consumers don't have 4k televisions, and most cannot afford them at this point although they are on the market for purchase in the US.
What major products does Apple sell that are US only? A bit over 300 M people in the us and around 500 M in the EU. I believe Apple derives more income from overseas than domestically.
4K is the next 3D
Actually, 4K will exceed 3D.
3D will never become the standard - there are too many people who either get no benefit or actually find 3D to interfere with watching TV. It will be a large niche, but a niche, nonetheless.
4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
Think of it this way- look at the technology progressions in the past years
B/W TV to Color
Color TV to flat screen
flat screen to HDTV
Similarly,
VHS to DVD
DVD to BluRay
In every case, the improvement was apparent even to someone who doesn't consider themselves to be a videophile (although DVD to BR was not quite as obvious as the rest). Now, moving to 4K will improve things, but the gains will be fairly modest compared to the above gains. Therefore, it will be limited to high end customers for some time.
A USB port that can be used for an external drive.
Hmm. I dunno. This doesn't seem like anything Apple would do. I'd really just prefer Network Attached iTunes Libraries. Plug a hard drive formatted as an iTunes Library into your AirPort Extreme and then all the Apple TVs (and computers) in the house can pull content from said library.
The ability to support PLEX.
And these will obviously never happen. Why the frick would Apple ever support Plex?
How does that make sense? Why would we want that?
Gotta put /s on these!
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4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
Bingo.
Blu-Ray is awful. At least with DVDs you could pop in a disc and watch.
Blu-Ray you put the disc in and wait for it to load ... Unless wait. You need to download a firmware update first ... Provided one is even available ... And even if there is one, now some older discs won't play and the new one still might not work.
True the picture and sound are gorgeous... But the hassle isn't.
Downloading 1080p/720p content is good enough (for me at least).
Actually, 4K will exceed 3D.
3D will never become the standard - there are too many people who either get no benefit or actually find 3D to interfere with watching TV. It will be a large niche, but a niche, nonetheless.
4K will offer benefits for almost everyone (although I expect it to take a long, long time to become standard because 1080p is good enough for most people and the advantages are modest.
Think of it this way- look at the technology progressions in the past years
B/W TV to Color
Color TV to flat screen
flat screen to HDTV
Similarly,
VHS to DVD
DVD to BluRay
In every case, the improvement was apparent even to someone who doesn't consider themselves to be a videophile (although DVD to BR was not quite as obvious as the rest). Now, moving to 4K will improve things, but the gains will be fairly modest compared to the above gains. Therefore, it will be limited to high end customers for some time.
Have you seen the Hobbit movie? Have you watched an HD News Broadcast? Honestly, the only real benefit you will get from anything 4K will be for sports. everything else...HD had made it worse IMO. When you can see the piss-poor make-up jobs on anything higher than 1080p (since Movies in iMax and greater than 24fps look terrible IMO) there's really no great benefit to seeing something in 4k. Not to mention even restores of old movies from negatives won't even come close to 4k res. To me, 4k is pointless. Who cares. All this 4k and 60fps crap isn't improving anything but the profit margins of the content owners. Do you really want to re-purchase all your movies all over again in the next 2-5 years? Really? I haven't even re-purchased 10% of my DVD collection onto blu-ray or iTunes or digital because of the cost involved and the lack of special features and commentaries on the digital versions. The home media industry doesn't know what the hell they're doing, other than milking any format that can for all it's worth, and in shorter cycles than ever before. Screw big media, screw content owners. I'm loving the subscription method, and it's way cheaper. Thank you Netflix and Hulu.
I'm a big fan of Blu rays. The restorations are remarkable on some Blu-Rays that are exclusive to them. And of course, the sound is brilliant and there is no equal.
But I'm with you- the loading is God awful and with the exception of Disney, you have to watch a half dozen commercials so I have to skip skip skip skip. It sucks.